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    I'll never understand the Manu vs Parker debate. They're both great players and equally important to their teams, no matter what every year it's either TP or Manu that end up becoming the scapegoat of the Spurs's failures.

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    I actually don't want MVParker
    wat? of course you want MVParker. He was a walking mismatch until he got hurt.

    I'll never understand the Manu vs Parker debate.
    that's good, because there's none of that in this thread AFAIK (yet)

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    it blow it all up

    Trade Manu for Hollis Thompson

    Trade Parker for Wiggins

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    I'll never understand the Manu vs Parker debate. They're both great players and equally important to their teams, no matter what every year it's either TP or Manu that end up becoming the scapegoat of the Spurs's failures.
    The world blames Manu.
    The browns blame Parker.

    Its the circle of life

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    It means that occasionally Parker can play poorly. In the last game he only scored in garbage time when the game was already decided. He is not perfect. Hopefully it also means that Pop will insist Spurs retain Mills no matter the price.

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    Everyone jumping to defend Tony... and the elephant in the room is the fact that the Spurs won regardless.

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    He's not getting traded.

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    I didn't suggest trading Tony for DWill. In fact I haven't suggested anything. I just wonder how the Spurs will see it, that they are viable without Tony... even Vegas saw that.
    Let me put it this way, There isn't one player in this league not on a rookie contract that can match TPs production for the salary he has at the guard position. Maybe Dragic, but who knows how well he would mesh with Tim and Manu. Those three are like family and trading TP at this point wouldn't fly with them.

    Next year they could possibly sign and trade Parker if Manu, Tim and Pop retire. Could get a lottery pick from some team. But I still hardly thinks this happens.

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    Let me put it this way, There isn't one player in this league not on a rookie contract that can match TPs production for the salary he has at the guard position. Maybe Dragic, but who knows how well he would mesh with Tim and Manu. Those three are like family and trading TP at this point wouldn't fly with them.

    Next year they could possibly sign and trade Parker if Manu, Tim and Pop retire. Could get a lottery pick from some team. But I still hardly thinks this happens.
    Boiled down though, Spurs won without him.

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    Boiled down, the Spurs don't get in a position to win without him without him.

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    In the second half of the game 5 vs Heat they stopped doubling him hard on the pnr on the hedge and voila he started scoring. The Heat's defensive gameplan was to shut down Parker both this year and last. Manu and Leonard stepped up this year more than Parker did not show up. Manu often had the pleasure of single coverage by Wade and the corpse of Ray Allen. He dominated them as he should.

    They all won a le.

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    Also OP is a got

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    In the second half of the game 5 vs Heat they stopped doubling him hard on the pnr on the hedge and voila he started scoring. The Heat's defensive gameplan was to shut down Parker both this year and last. Manu and Leonard stepped up this year more than Parker did not show up. Manu often had the pleasure of single coverage by Wade and the corpse of Ray Allen. He dominated them as he should.

    They all won a le.
    Well said. Thank you

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    In the second half of the game 5 vs Heat they stopped doubling him hard on the pnr on the hedge and voila he started scoring. The Heat's defensive gameplan was to shut down Parker both this year and last. Manu and Leonard stepped up this year more than Parker did not show up. Manu often had the pleasure of single coverage by Wade and the corpse of Ray Allen. He dominated them as he should.

    They all won a le.
    He did also miss alot of easy shots that he normally makes. You could say it was also a regression to the mean.

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    In the second half of the game 5 vs Heat they stopped doubling him hard on the pnr on the hedge and voila he started scoring. The Heat's defensive gameplan was to shut down Parker both this year and last. Manu and Leonard stepped up this year more than Parker did not show up. Manu often had the pleasure of single coverage by Wade and the corpse of Ray Allen. He dominated them as he should.

    They all won a le.
    aka, Heat lost because the Spurs had too many scorers, too many ways to score.

    In the Championship game, Spurs had 5 players with 14 or more pts.

    iow, it was Wack-a-Mole, and Heat couldn't whack 'em all.

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    aka, Heat lost because the Spurs had too many scorers, too many ways to score.

    In the Championship game, Spurs had 5 players with 14 or more pts.

    iow, it was Wack-a-Mole, and Heat couldn't whack 'em all.
    Not just that. Our defense was good enough to make it hard for them to score. It reminds us of how a couple of years ago we used to struggle defensively and couldn't put up enough points to make up for it. I remember us getting swept by the Suns in '10 cause of that.

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    Always thought MVParkers' contribution these last three seasons have been a little overrated. Since that major overhaul after the 2011 season the Spurs have been ing stacked, they are probably the less star reliant team in history.

    Don't get me wrong, Tony is still our number one option and as such is very important for this team but he isn't nor he ever was an irreplaceable vital force that would turn a contender into a mediocre team with his absence (ala Lebron or Durant) and for much of the past three seasons (specially the last one) the media and fans used to talk as if this was the case.

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    No I mean what does it mean that the Spurs still won? Can the Spurs trade Tony Parker away and keep Patty as the starting PG for less, and maybe get a good backup for Leonard or a decent big in exchange?
    There is a reason that Patty always plays with Manu or Tony on the floor.

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    That Patty/Parker was killer and the heat had trouble running with both on the floor. I think Pop didnt want any team game planning against that combination. We'll only see that combo again next playoffs

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    What does that mean?
    It means his production in those two games added to his production in the other playoff games led the Champions in points and assists.

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