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    "I don't bang anybody anymore," Bosh said. "It's a tired thing for me. It's not my strength and I understand that."



    "Just playing at an elite level, you play better defenders," Bosh said. "It gets tiring. What they ask us to do, to blitz the screen and roll, every single one, close out and get back. I wasn't this same weight. I was already 20-30 pounds lighter than anybody else. All that stuff just takes my energy."

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...sh-on-playing-in-the-post-i-dont-bang-anymore


    You my but come on....when has this ever banged...he's a catcher not a pitcher

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    did bosh really say that
    you get 300 k or more a game to bang idiot

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    did bosh really say that
    you get 300 k or more a game to bang idiot
    he's an honest gay dude..if the man don't bang he don't bang.... stop trynna force a square peg into a round hole

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    I can't see them making the finals without their core. I can't even see them winning the finals if the Spurs are there. I don't see it. If any one of those three were to leave, there going to go down a year. If Melo comes, they'll be down a year.

    As of right now, the Heat only have Bosh.

    The thing I've realized about these star based teams is that they can't be perennially sustain and forced to rebuild because the rest of the core played "roles".

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    A lot of over-analyzing, there are still so many variables before we can judge Miami's future, tbh..

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    A lot of over-analyzing, there are still so many variables before we can judge Miami's future, tbh..
    well, if wade/bosh sign for around 15 and lebron gets something near the max, it removes a lot of variables tbh, they'll have no room to add significant pieces

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    ?@sraider, that exactly is the huge factor....cap room. Im assuming the Heat are in pursuit of the finals again. I don't see a championship happening again with the Spurs. They'll be the same team..only older. They'll have to yet again endure the regular season with a hobbled Wade and poltergeists.


    The Pacers have been quiet. Everyone has lost their belief in them for obvious reasons. They still have a very stacked team with talent. We'll see what happens mid way through the season with them. I'm mentioning them because they're the only team that can challenge the Heat. Its too bad they're made.

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    Lol TIMMYtoZO why would be afraid pf the same team we raped in the finals idiot

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    I'll take Woj's word that James wants max, which is $22 million. Let's try to come up with a really cap friendly scenario: say Wade and Bosh sign for $13 million each and Haslem takes $2M (they're not renouncing him and making him play for minimum after he opted out). Then Miami's cap situation looks like

    1. James: $22.1M
    2. Wade: $13.0M
    3. Bosh: $13.0M
    4. Cole: $2.15M
    5. Haslem: $2.0M
    6. Anderson: $1.45M
    7. Napier: $1.03M
    8. Open roster spot: $0.473M
    9. Open roster spot: $0.473M
    10. Open roster spot: $0.473M
    11. Open roster spot: $0.473M
    12. Open roster spot: $0.473M

    TOTAL: $57.1M
    CAPSPACE: $6.10M

    Let's assume they renounce Rashard Lewis and then sign him for league minimum after they're out of capspace. He won't have any better options. So do they renounce Allen and see if they can get MVPau with that $6.1M? Or maybe give Allen $2M and use the other $4.1M to get a defensive stopper like Avery Bradley? Maybe split their capspace between Ray Ray and Marion? They surely renounce Chalmers, right?

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    I'll take Woj's word that James wants max, which is $22 million. Let's try to come up with a really cap friendly scenario: say Wade and Bosh sign for $13 million each and Haslem takes $2M (they're not renouncing him and making him play for minimum after he opted out). Then Miami's cap situation looks like

    1. James: $22.1M
    2. Wade: $13.0M
    3. Bosh: $13.0M
    4. Cole: $2.15M
    5. Haslem: $2.0M
    6. Anderson: $1.45M
    7. Napier: $1.03M
    8. Open roster spot: $0.473M
    9. Open roster spot: $0.473M
    10. Open roster spot: $0.473M
    11. Open roster spot: $0.473M
    12. Open roster spot: $0.473M

    TOTAL: $57.1M
    CAPSPACE: $6.10M

    Let's assume they renounce Rashard Lewis and then sign him for league minimum after they're out of capspace. He won't have any better options. So do they renounce Allen and see if they can get MVPau with that $6.1M? Or maybe give Allen $2M and use the other $4.1M to get a defensive stopper like Avery Bradley? Maybe split their capspace between Ray Ray and Marion? They surely renounce Chalmers, right?
    This is why Wade wont get more than 10 mil/yr,,,,Riley would let him walk because he knows no team will pay him more than 10 mil. Riley knows its LeBron or bust.

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    At least James won't be coming here now. Put a stopper in that ing bottle.

    - "You never know. It could happen. Him and Bledsoe are great friends and represented by the same agent."

    - "Why not, we're just as good as anybody else and he and Bledsoe know each other and respect one another."

    - "We're attractive. We have all the pieces. And him and Bledsoe are close friends."
    What?!!! You mean Lebron doesnt want to play for Robert "Deep Pockets" Sarver?

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    Can't deny that. He's Champ.
    No one, and I mean no one, gets on their hands and knees and shines quite as nicely as you.

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    This is why Wade wont get more than 10 mil/yr,,,,Riley would let him walk because he knows no team will pay him more than 10 mil. Riley knows its LeBron or bust.
    What if Lebron's re-signing is contingent on keeping Wade?

    I'm of the mind Wade and Bosh are pulling a Richard Jefferson and will agree to the money they would have gotten in their original deals over a longer period of time. So deals starting at about $10 million make sense. If bum's numbers are right, that could get them closer to another $10 million slot.

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    Would you look at that -- Wade still more unselfish than Kobe, even with the flopping and whining that has emerged in his game as of late
    He should take less dude is a tosb with stds

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    What if Lebron's re-signing is contingent on keeping Wade?

    I'm of the mind Wade and Bosh are pulling a Richard Jefferson and will agree to the money they would have gotten in their original deals over a longer period of time. So deals starting at about $10 million make sense. If bum's numbers are right, that could get them closer to another $10 million slot.
    I agree 10 mil is the key but some think Wade will make 13-15 mil,,,,I don't see it. And I think LeBron is thinking youth infusion(draft) and 'Melo at this point. I think he is ready to leave Wade if Wade gets difficult,,,which Wade knows a gravy train when he sees it and said Yes Sir, LeBron,,,I'll opt out,,,please stay.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if it all turns out to be largely scripted between the players and management.

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    What if Lebron's re-signing is contingent on keeping Wade?

    I'm of the mind Wade and Bosh are pulling a Richard Jefferson and will agree to the money they would have gotten in their original deals over a longer period of time. So deals starting at about $10 million make sense. If bum's numbers are right, that could get them closer to another $10 million slot.
    If Wade can swallow his pride I could see him doing that, as he wouldn't get much more on the market. But Bosh? He would easily pull more than $10 million. I mean Hibbert makes $15 million next year.

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    If Wade can swallow his pride I could see him doing that, as he wouldn't get much more on the market. But Bosh? He would easily pull more than $10 million. I mean Hibbert makes $15 million next year.
    it's close with Bosh, but he could take the 13 and still leave some good cap space. I don't know the longest deal Bosh could sign -- is a five year deal possible?

    Doesn't seem like it opens up Melo money, but could be pretty significant.

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    it's close with Bosh, but he could take the 13 and still leave some good cap space. I don't know the longest deal Bosh could sign -- is a five year deal possible?

    Doesn't seem like it opens up Melo money, but could be pretty significant.
    They dont need Melo. They need depth. LeBron cant play 40 minutes for 90+ games. Wade cant play 70 games.

    And I dont think friendship will survive Wade earning half James` money, and less then Bosh, who nothing more than streach four.

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    No one, and I mean no one, gets on their hands and knees and shines quite as nicely as you.
    It's easy. Nothing better than truth. A rare clarity.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if it all turns out to be largely scripted between the players and management.
    Most likely scenario, tbh..

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    HANG TIME NEW JERSEY – LeBron James and Dwyane Wade have informed the Miami Heat that they will exercise the early termination options on their contracts, ending what were six-years deals after four seasons.Chris Bosh has yet to inform the Heat about his decision, but it is expected that he will exercise his early termination option as well. Udonis Haslem, meanwhile, has declined his $4.3 million player option.

    Nine days ago, Pat Riley made it clear that he’d like his three All-Stars to take less money to help him retool the roster. On Tuesday, James put added pressure on Bosh and Wade by opting out of his deal. Now, it looks like things are falling into place and Riley will have the opportunity to upgrade the other two positions in his starting lineup.

    Rumored targets for the Heat include point guard Kyle Lowry, forward Trevor Ariza and center Marcin Gortat. All have tools (ball-handling, defense, size) that would certainly help Miami. The idea of addingCarmelo Anthony seems far-fetched, but it all depends on how much money he’s willing to sacrifice, as well as how much Miami’s Big Three are willing to sacrifice.

    Yahoo’s Adrian Wojnarowski reports that James is seeking a max contract, which would be a five-year deal worth about $120 million. So it would apparently be Bosh and Wade who would have to take pay cuts.

    ESPN’s Chris Broussard tweeted that Bosh is seeking a new five-year deal worth $15-16 million per year. Those two reports (as well as the assumption that Wade isn’t going to take less than Bosh) gives us the framework of the Heat’s salary math, with an expected salary cap of $63.2 million …

    Heat salary math

    Player 2014-15 Notes
    1 James, LeBron $20,020,875 Cap hold
    2 Bosh, Chris $13,043,478 Reduced salary (5 yrs/$75M)
    3 Wade, Dwyane $13,043,478 Reduced salary (5 yrs/$75M)
    4 Cole, Norris $2,038,206 Under contract
    5 Andersen, Chris $915,243 Cap hold
    6 Napier, Shabazz $1,032,200 Cap hold
    7-11 Cap hold x 5 $2,536,680 Cap hold
    TOTAL $52,630,161
    Salary cap $63,200,000
    Left for free agent $10,569,839 4-year deal for $45.1 million

    1. James’ max contract would start at about $20.8 million. Since his cap hold (1.05 x last year’s salary) is a little less than that, the Heat would use that number until the other pieces are signed. Then they can go over the salary cap to re-sign James.

    2 and 3. If Bosh and Wade both accept five-year deals worth $75 million ($15 million per year), those contracts would have starting salaries of just over $13 million.

    4. ESPN’s Brian Windhorst reports that the Heat are looking to unload Norris Cole. If they do that (and don’t get another player in return), his $2.0 million would be replaced by another rookie minimum cap hold (see 7-11) and they’d have an additional $1.5 million of cap space.

    5. The Heat could renounce the rights to Chris Andersen, but he has just a vet’s minimum cap hold. Keeping that would allow them to sign him for much more after they’re back over the salary cap.

    6. The Heat can pay Shabazz Napier 120 percent of the rookie scale for the No. 24 pick. As with James, better to keep the cap hold number until the other pieces are signed.

    7-11. If you don’t have 12 guys on your roster, there is a rookie minimum cap hold ($507,336) for every slot that takes you up to 12. So, if we’re talking about James, Bosh, Wade, Cole, Andersen, Napier and one free agent, we need five minimum cap holds.

    Additional note: In this scenario, the Heat have renounced their rights to Haslem, Ray Allen, Michael Beasley, Mario Chalmers, Toney Douglas, James Jones, Rashard Lewis, and Greg Oden, and have also waived Justin Hamilton (who has a non-guaranteed deal). It’s assumed that Haslem will get rewarded for opting out (with a long-term deal that pays him more than the $4.3 million he could have earned next season), and Allen is a critical piece in the rotation, but their cap holds ($8.2 million and $4.2 million) are too big to keep on the books.

    After the Heat have gone over the cap, they can use the room exception (starting at $2.7 million) to bring one or more of those guys back (or add other free agents). It can be split among multiple players. After that, they’d have only minimum deals to offer players.

    If all the above holds, the Heat could offer one free agent $45.1 million over four years ($11.3 million per year). If they are able to trade Cole, that would turn into $51.7 million over four years ($12.9 million per year).

    That’s still about half of what Anthony could earn elsewhere. If he were to re-sign with the Knicks for the max, he’d get $129.1 million over five years ($25.8 per year). If he were to sign with a new team for the max, he’d get $95.9 million over four years ($24.0 million per year).

    So Lowry, Ariza and Gortat are obviously more realistic options. If the Heat were to split their cap space among two free agents (assuming they traded Cole), they could offer them a total of about $13.5 million per year. Ariza and Gortat each made $7.7 million for the Wizards this past season, while Lowry made $6.2 million for the Raptors.

    Both Gortat and Lowry will likely be offered raises from their current teams, who are both looking to keep the momentum going after returning to the postseason after long layoffs. With Martell Webster and Otto Porteron the roster, the Wizards might not fight hard for Ariza, but he could still get more than mid-level money elsewhere, as one of the better three-and-D guys in the league and still just 29 years old.

    So there’s no clear starting-lineup upgrade for the Heat. But if James accepts less than the max or if Bosh and/or Wade accept less than $15 million per year, there’s more money to spend. And since they’re also offering a chance to play with the best player in the world for a championship on Biscayne Bay, they may not have to spend as much as other teams

  23. #148
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    ^You're sitting pretty for a 3 peat, Splits. Sure, you had to give the 1 back, but, a 3 peat nonetheless.

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    ^You're sitting pretty for a 3 peat, Splits. Sure, you had to give the 1 back, but, a 3 peat nonetheless.
    we may have given two back.dont forget 2012 i think we beat the heat that year if we got past okc

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    so yeah timmy 7 kobe 5

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