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    They'll free up about 16 -18 mil to fill out the roster
    They have Cole, resign Allen, they promised to resign Haslem. Since they are under the cap, shabazz salary counts. Altogether that's about 8 mil. Lebron and co. Probably get their 15 mil each. That leaves 10 mil to sign 9 spots.

    I don't see players signing for peanuts like last time.

    Heat fans are so delusional. They are comparing Miami's retooling to the Spurs. Those stupid ass mofos trying to compare a bought team with one built and developed.
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    What have the Thunder done except draft two unproven rookies?

    Same with the Heat. They haven't done anything yet except draft Napier.

    Lets see where the cards fall.
    Pierce is kobyz's new shtick this summer, since 'I wanna kill myself' had gotten old.

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    Maybe kobyz will commit suicide when the Spurs don't sign Pierce.

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    good thing we got one, Heat with LBJ/Wade/Melo and Lowry taking 3 of the next 5 les tbh.
    In what world can they put those four together....

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    Again, Bosh has not decided. Still has two days. There was a miscommunication in a text to me earlier. Not sure on the other reports.
    3:33pm - 28 Jun 14
    tim reynolds heat beat writer
    that was 3:33 az time 3 hours behind eastern time

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    In what world can they put those four together....
    Lowry made 8 mil last season. Do people really think he is going to take less when the Raptors want to resign him for at least that much and the lakers also willing to pay him that much.

    After the beat down the Spurs gave the Heat, I believe players are done trying to ride Lebron's, while he makes his money and they are left with the paltry check.

    Reason Spurs players take discount is because the org develops them and are the reason they are the players they are today. Loyalty goes a long way.

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    this is a big relief to me. of all the Melo/Lebron/Love FA scenarios: Melo and Lebron in Miami (with that Wade anchor around their neck) is the least dangerous to the Spurs. if they had all gone to teams that were playoff caliber without them...

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    Lowry made 8 mil last season. Do people really think he is going to take less when the Raptors want to resign him for at least that much and the lakers also willing to pay him that much.

    After the beat down the Spurs gave the Heat, I believe players are done trying to ride Lebron's, while he makes his money and they are left with the paltry check.

    Reason Spurs players take discount is because the org develops them and are the reason they are the players they are today. Loyalty goes a long way.
    they develop them and pay for the medical bills also even if they are not under contract


    yankees won les with homegrown talent have not since they have none
    homegrown talent works

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    The fact of the matter is that Bron should not ask for less than the max. He's the best player in the world and he's in his prime. Wade is washed up and Bosh is part time no show. Wade and Bosh need to come back at a discount or Miami needs to go another direction.
    This makes no sense. in 2013 Lebron made 34 million in endorsements and climbing. He doesnt need the max. Lebron wants to be considered the best player ever, which he isnt, and will pay for that le by taking less money. He knows the only way he will get in the GOAT talk is rings, but doesnt realize that any intelligent fan of the game will insist the GOATs will have beaten the best, not bandwagoned with the best.

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    Man it's nice the Spurs are the team everyone's trying to beat.

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    Pierce is kobyz's new shtick this summer, since 'I wanna kill myself' had gotten old.
    Oh I know. I've seen the repeated posts.

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    Thunder draft two players who upgrade their team immediately and they are not done... McGary is an improvement over Perkins, as a player he is a better Splitter, splitter without the softness and with better technic on his shot and finishing... Huestis is the best defensive player in the draft, he is like Shane Batier in his prime, can hit open threes and improvement over Sapolosha right now... Both players also are great iq players, understanding ball movement so they improve most needed aspect... To me Thunder may not have a flashy draft but they had fantastic draft, persty done it again! Miami got a steal, they draft great talent, most ready PG in the draft that fit perfectly, MJ do Riley big time favor!
    So yea, pretty much exactly what I said. Two unproven rookies.

    McGary better than Splitter? I'm not going to even validate that with a legitimate response...

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    They can field a 5 to 8 man all- star roster for all I care. It will just be more gratifying to knock them out for anybody. Hope we have the rubber match with a retooled Heat roster. That would be epic!

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    Media praising Miami big 3 for opting out makes me wanna puke! Puhleeze!
    Spurs players been doing this for years and years! Every team just wants to be like us!

    Spurs have set the standard again!

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    This is actually good news because you want to beat the best and to be honest there is no one better in the East. This could be the start of several years of matchups with the Heat. Our only downside is our 3 best players are getting older but then again so are the Heats so it is always going to come down to role players and even if the Heat bring new faces in to contribute, they may not have the right chemistry to cohesively work together like the Spurs's bench. I am interested in seeing what pieces they add and who they retain because LeBron now fully understands he can't do it alone.

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    Each take a 4 year $60 million dollar deal

    45 million
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    Cole, Allen, Haslem, Lewis and Napier= about $6.7 million
    = 51.7 million (roughly) for 9 players.

    they'd have about 11 million to sign four players. If that is correct
    At 4 / $60 they could likely take escalating deals (+7.5% per year with Bird rights). That deal would start off at $13.4mm each and be $16.7mm by year 4. Under that scenario, they would be at:

    Lowest I can see any of the contracts going:

    $40.2mm Big Three (under above 4 / $60; likely that there's an opt-out after a few years and they can get back onto higher salaries)
    $1.0 Shabazz (rookie scale)
    $2.0 Cole
    $1.45 Haslem (league minimum, assuming he takes that and Micky throws him some shares in the team when he retires)
    $1.45 Lewis (same league minimum for 10+ years)
    $1.45 Allen (starting to stretch here assuming he takes the minimum)
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    $47.7mm on eight players

    If they want to get another big fish, they would have roster holds on three spots at roughly $500k apiece (11 total) and assuming the $63.2mm cap, they would have $14.0mm to offer to that fourth guy. If he took the same amount as the Big 3, then there is $600k more to go around.

    There are probably ways to maneuver around it by renouncing Allen, Haslem and Lewis and add another $3mm to the pot, but not sure if once you renounce guys you can resign them (a) if at all and (b) even in that case, to anything more than the minimum if you're over the cap. And wouldn't the team also get the under the cap mini MLE too?

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    Heat will end up with Pau Gasol.

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    Media praising Miami big 3 for opting out makes me wanna puke! Puhleeze!
    Spurs players been doing this for years and years! Every team just wants to be like us!

    Spurs have set the standard again!
    I don't remember a Spurs player taking much less than he could have gotten elsewhere to play in SA. maybe someone could remind me? TD's latest contract was fair, TP's was fair, manu's last contract was too much tbh

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    Heat will end up with Pau Gasol.
    I think so too. I think Gasol goes to the Heat for $7-8 M annually. Then they chase a second decent backup for $3M.

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    I think so too. I think Gasol goes to the Heat for $7-8 M annually. Then they chase a second decent backup for $3M.
    So, in your opinion the Heat ends up with Gasol too.

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    I don't know why SpursTalk isn't more terrified of this news, tbh. We know that LeBron wants a max contract. But Wade, Bosh, and Haslem are all almost certainly going to take pay cuts. The Heat will have cap space to sign a 2nd-tier free agent--like Kyle Lowry, who is an all-star PG (the Heat's weakest position).

    Could the Spurs really beat a Heat Big 4 in next year's Finals with a fatigued Manu Ginobili?

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    Things are not looking good for the rest of the league. The Heat should be able to add another legitimate piece now.

    The rest of the NBA executives must be severely pissed. They should facilitate a Kevin Durant trade to the Spurs for peanuts just out of spite.

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    So, in your opinion the Heat ends up with Gasol too.
    Yep, that's why I quoted you and said "I think so too."

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    I don't know why SpursTalk isn't more terrified of this news, tbh. We know that LeBron wants a max contract. But Wade, Bosh, and Haslem are all almost certainly going to take pay cuts. The Heat will have cap space to sign a 2nd-tier free agent--like Kyle Lowry, who is an all-star PG (the Heat's weakest position).

    Could the Spurs really beat a Heat Big 4 in next year's Finals with a fatigued Manu Ginobili?
    Too early. Teams will try to get better, that in and of itself isn't news or terrifying. The Spurs still have to take care of their own business before we can start worrying about what other teams will do, IMO.

    Personally, gonna enjoy the championship, enjoy the summer and keep and eye on what the Spurs do, and worry about next season when we're there.

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    I'll never be upset or "terrified" or disappointed after this championship. I can't see anything ever topping it tbh.

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