Baynes and Daye contract situation

[exstatic]

Horrible. Memphis non-tenders Ed Davis, and we keep this waste, keeping us from signing him.

The irony is that Davis, a year younger and TONS more athletic, supposedly offensively raw, has a career PER (considered to be offensively biased) of ~ 16. Day, this supposed offensive wizard, has a career PER of 11.9.

[ceperez]

Daye is such a liability that even guys you don't think of as low post threats, would do work against him.

I don't mean to come off as anti Daye or the decision to retain him though. I'm just saying, I could have envisioned the scenario whereby they didn't and would have understood why, with Anderson now on board. Again, had they not drafted Anderson, all of this would have been moot and it would have been a no brainer to retain him.

With this decision, I'm back to being skeptical about them retaining Bonner. I could see them valuing the flexibility of an open spot or utilizing it on a spare wing defender.

Can't believe there are so many Daye haters over here!

[ElNono]

Minute burner, like Ayres... best case is he puts in work over the summer like Patty did last summer and he becomes something more...

It's a cheap contract regardless...

[TD 21]

Can't believe there are so many Daye haters over here!

This is a prime example of a blatant lack of reading comprehension.

[palangi]

Horrible. Memphis non-tenders Ed Davis, and we keep this waste, keeping us from signing him.

The irony is that Davis, a year younger and TONS more athletic, supposedly offensively raw, has a career PER (considered to be offensively biased) of ~ 16. Day, this supposed offensive wizard, has a career PER of 11.9.

The grass is always greener on the other side...

funny you want Davis yet exploit Daye. Davis has been horrible. At least Daye can dribble and shoot.

[ceperez]

This is a prime example of a blatant lack of reading comprehension.

What you said is that you don't understand why the Spurs retained Daye. So what's the lack of understanding there? You obviously aren't conviced.

[palangi]

This is a prime example of a blatant lack of reading comprehension.

I don't mean to be a Daye hater, but........


yeah ah how could someone see you different?

[jeebus]

2/2 vs The Heat
3/4 vs Denver

.414 from three over 14 games.

that's your evidence? gtfo

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

To all those crying about day. There was a report not to long ago that talked about him working out and having added weight. Up to 225 lbs.

it is amazing how shortsighted some of you are here. Almost like you expect the 15th man on the roster to be a hall of famer?

He was 209 when the Spurs first got him. Last I heard he weighed in at 216 to end the season and the Spurs hope he gets up to 225 by TC and preseason. All signs point that he will.

[palangi]

that's your evidence? gtfo

And your evidence is your opinion. Yeah that is so much better!

[palangi]

He was 209 when the Spurs first got him. Last I heard he weighed in at 216 to end the season and the Spurs hope he gets up to 225 by TC and preseason. All signs point that he will.

I read somewhere that he was up to 225 right now.

[ElNono]

The Spurs are going to coast through the regular season a lot... basically you'll see again the Spurs play their main guys under 30mpg, more likely lower 20s... You'll also likely see guys like Diaw, Tiago, Manu and Patty getting various games off after a long summer... There will be plenty of minutes for players like Anderson, Ayres, Daye to play out there, and the Spurs will try to take advantage of the fact that most of them are already familiar with the system, while other teams are still trying to get up to speed.

Most of those guys won't likely make the playoff rotation anyways, barring some surprise growth in their games or some injury. Frankly, with the current state of the NBA, you don't need more than 20 mins of TD/TP/Manu/Kawhi/Verde to beat some teams...

[TD 21]

What you said is that you don't understand why the Spurs retained Daye. So what's the lack of understanding there? You obviously aren't conviced.

That's not at all what I said. I'm actually in favor of the decision, I was merely playing devil's advocate, because I thought with Anderson on board, they'd lean towards cutting him and retaining Bonner. I'd have understood why had they done so, just like I understand why they didn't and if they now don't retain Bonner. In other words, despite the fact that Anderson is more play making three than stretch four, having three defenseless forwards doesn't make sense.

[ceperez]

Minute burner, like Ayres... best case is he puts in work over the summer like Patty did last summer and he becomes something more...

It's a cheap contract regardless...

Sigh, such low expecations!

[ElNono]

Sigh, such low expecations!

I always hope for better, but as long as he can fill that need, the Spurs will be ok with it.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I read somewhere that he was up to 225 right now.

Possibly, but I know Monroe reported that was the target weight for Daye and hoping he get to 230 after that.

230 is usually the minimum weight you want to be in order to defend in the post. Drob did an awesome job at 235 for years.

Good sign that Daye is actually accomplishing what the Spurs asked him to do.

[cd021]

I think Bonner's days as a Spurs are over. Bummer. He was the glue that held it all together.. PATFO OBVIOUSLY don't want to repeat..

Makes no sense to keep Daye over Bonner, Its not as if he is the heir apparent. He is a big small forward that can't play PF full time. Daye just isn't big enough to play the same postion.

[littlecoyotecoin]

But, he's made 14k posts on a message board! And, he stayed in a Holiday Inn last night.

(Re: Jeebus' opinion being superior to fact.)

[palangi]

Makes no since to keep Daye over Bonner, Its not as if he is the heir apparent. He is a big small forward that can't play PF full time. Daye just isn't big enough to play the same postion.

Since?

[cd021]

Since?

*sense

[ceperez]

Horrible. Memphis non-tenders Ed Davis, and we keep this waste, keeping us from signing him.

The irony is that Davis, a year younger and TONS more athletic, supposedly offensively raw, has a career PER (considered to be offensively biased) of ~ 16. Day, this supposed offensive wizard, has a career PER of 11.9.

What's Daye's per as a Spur?

[Chinook]

I would have kept Daye as well, but it still wouldn't surprise me to see him cut/traded. It's him vs DeShaun Thomas right now.

[exstatic]

What's Daye's per as a Spur?

Sample size is too small. You have to compare career to career.

[toki9]

Possibly, but I know Monroe reported that was the target weight for Daye and hoping he get to 230 after that.

230 is usually the minimum weight you want to be in order to defend in the post. Drob did an awesome job at 235 for years.

Good sign that Daye is actually accomplishing what the Spurs asked him to do.

How hard can it be to gain all that weight? Introduce him to Ben & Jerry's. Better yet, have Boris take him on a tour of Parisian restaurants.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Sample size is too small. You have to compare career to career.

True, but players tend to have higher PER playing in the Spurs system. Especially those that have the IQ and passing ability required to play in the system.

I think Daye can develop nicely in the Spurs System. If he can get his weight and muscle mass up, he can possibly replace bonner as the Spurs stretch 4.

I don't mind the considering that jean Charles or Bertans aren't coming over next season anyway and it's difficult to find someone for the minimum that matches Dayes potential.