Baynes and Daye contract situation

[tholdren]

He was 209 when the Spurs first got him. Last I heard he weighed in at 216 to end the season and the Spurs hope he gets up to 225 by TC and preseason. All signs point that he will.

How is adding weight going to help daye? no way in he sets foot in the paint

[elemento]

Some of you guys are making such a big fuss about it for nothing. His contract is minimal and he can still be cut if a better offer/player is presented.

Last season SA cut Thomas after Kawhi's injury to sign a backup SF and his contract was fully guaranteed. No big deal.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

How is adding weight going to help daye? no way in he sets foot in the paint

Let me see, guys that had to defend one time or another in the paint last season, every freakin player on the Spurs roster.

Really, did I even remotely suggest he was going to post up next year. As stretch four, you have to able to defend and rebound in the paint. Yes, having added weight allows defend post players and box out for rebounds. It's simple physics.

209 or 230 at 6'11" and your asking how will adding muscle to a 6'11" frame might help him.

[Baam]

If he had a good at ude when he wasn't dressing then I'm fine with it.

May or may not means something about Anderson playing SF instead of PF or Bonbon coming back or not, who knows...

[littlecoyotecoin]

Minute burner, like Ayres... best case is he puts in work over the summer like Patty did last summer and he becomes something more...

It's a cheap contract regardless...

And, the goal-posts move, yet again. Now, he's just a minute burner...

But, with and out...

"i said if he worked hard...he could be something more!"

[littlecoyotecoin]

Let me see, guys that had to defend one time or another in the paint last season, every freakin player on the Spurs roster.

Really, did I even remotely suggest he was going to post up next year. As stretch four, you have to able to defend and rebound in the paint. Yes, having added weight allows defend post players and box out for rebounds. It's simple physics.

209 or 230 at 6'11" and your asking how will adding muscle to a 6'11" frame might help him.

Don't bother. If he gets to 245, they'll just move the goal-posts on you and latch on to...but but his foot speed! WhAarRble GaArRblble IMPOSSIBLE!

[littlecoyotecoin]

How hard can it be to gain all that weight? Introduce him to Ben & Jerry's. Better yet, have Boris take him on a tour of Parisian restaurants.

He could probably follow Boris around eating what Boris drops and put on 15lbs.

[tholdren]

Let me see, guys that had to defend one time or another in the paint last season, every freakin player on the Spurs roster.

Really, did I even remotely suggest he was going to post up next year. As stretch four, you have to able to defend and rebound in the paint. Yes, having added weight allows defend post players and box out for rebounds. It's simple physics.

209 or 230 at 6'11" and your asking how will adding muscle to a 6'11" frame might help him.

[tholdren]

LOL at you not understanding how the body works to think that he can gain all that weight during the season, then think its all muscle.

You sir are a genius. Its simple physics. ha

[ElNono]

And, the goal-posts move, yet again. Now, he's just a minute burner...

But, with and out...

"i said if he worked hard...he could be something more!"

what goal post move?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

LOL at you not understanding how the body works to think that he can gain all that weight during the season, then think its all muscle.

You sir are a genius. Its simple physics. ha

He has been given this goal since he got here back in February. Kobe added 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months one year. Adding 20 lbs of muscle in a 6 month period is unobtainable, well, probably for you but not professional athletes who have trainers working with them every day to achieve this goal.

Quit looking at things from your prospective and you just might achieve enlightenment.

[tholdren]

He has been given this goal since he got here back in February. Kobe added 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months one year. Adding 20 lbs of muscle in a 6 month period is unobtainable, well, probably for you but not professional athletes who have trainers working with them every day to achieve this goal.

Quit looking at things from your prospective and you just might achieve enlightenment.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOL

there is no other response.

[jag]

lol anyone wanting Ed Davis on this team.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOL

there is no other response.

Basically sums up what the rest of us think about your ty logical takes.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I find it hilarious that people are arguing over Daye, a guy who has had plenty of opportunity to show he's an NBA basketballer and failed at every turn. And he's certainly not a 4 of any description, stretch or otherwise - his rail-thin body (a body type that simply does not add weight, regardless of what you do with it) would get abused in the post by any half-decent offensive 4. Bonner, OTOH, has the frame and willingness to bang that makes him a decent, if limited, defender.

Time Daye headed to Europe IMHO.

[tholdren]

Basically sums up what the rest of us think about your ty logical takes.

no really, tell me more about adding this muscle... really.... LOLIOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Horrible. Memphis non-tenders Ed Davis, and we keep this waste, keeping us from signing him.

The irony is that Davis, a year younger and TONS more athletic, supposedly offensively raw, has a career PER (considered to be offensively biased) of ~ 16. Day, this supposed offensive wizard, has a career PER of 11.9.

Yup. I'd love to jettison Daye and Ayers and bring in Davis - he's an athlete, plays the pnr well, lots of potential as a banger/energy guy.

that people think Daye is anything but a deep bench warmer in the NBA.

[tholdren]

I find it hilarious that people are arguing over Daye, a guy who has had plenty of opportunity to show he's an NBA basketballer and failed at every turn. And he's certainly not a 4 of any description, stretch or otherwise - his rail-thin body (a body type that simply does not add weight, regardless of what you do with it) would get abused in the post by any half-decent offensive 4. Bonner, OTOH, has the frame and willingness to bang that makes him a decent, if limited, defender.

Time Daye headed to Europe IMHO.

This guy almost half understands the human body.

[cd021]

It would be somewhat surprising (to me at least) that the Spurs would leave the full M.L.E on the table to retain both Bonner, Daye and Baynes. Either they are extending the Daye decision or plan to cut ties with Bonner. Spurs could use another big or a defensive wing

[cd021]

Yup. I'd love to jettison Daye and Ayers and bring in Davis - he's an athlete, plays the pnr well, lots of potential as a banger/energy guy.

that people think Daye is anything but a deep bench warmer in the NBA.

I think that some Spurs fans believe that every young player the Spurs grab, has to develop into a quality role player. Odds are, a player like him is about as good as he is going to get. Maybe he can be fill a different role than he has in the past but not very optimistic. Ayers was essentially the same project last year and that failed.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I find it hilarious that people are arguing over Daye, a guy who has had plenty of opportunity to show he's an NBA basketballer and failed at every turn. And he's certainly not a 4 of any description, stretch or otherwise - his rail-thin body (a body type that simply does not add weight, regardless of what you do with it) would get abused in the post by any half-decent offensive 4. Bonner, OTOH, has the frame and willingness to bang that makes him a decent, if limited, defender.

Time Daye headed to Europe IMHO.

I find it hilarious that you are joining an argument you find hilarious. Even more hilarious is that you bring the same hackneyed points bandied about ad nauseam, and even granted to some extent. At the very least all acknowledged as points of contention, and weighed. Yet, the front office still disagrees with your final assessment and yields a coveted roster spot, at least for the time being. So, thank you, as your quote says...for pointing out some of the obvious things we already know...and we should expect you to hate us for attempting to enlighten you.

[SupremeGuy]

So what's the status with Baynes? When will we find out anything new?

[BackHome]

The question I have why did it take him four years to start working out and getting stronger?

[tholdren]

I think that some Spurs fans believe that every young player the Spurs grab, has to develop into a quality role player. Odds are, a player like him is about as good as he is going to get. Maybe he can be fill a different role than he has in the past but not very optimistic. Ayers was essentially the same project last year and that failed.

but that's the media MO. I mean every player we have those guys back-handed compliment them with the system/iq/character guy. They never talk about them being great basketball players. Have we had a player here, EVER that the media talked about going elsewhere or being a perfect fit somewhere else? Not that I can recall. Every player we get, its "Spurs type" or something of the sort. It is what it is. Fans are fans because they have delusions and think with their heart not their mind.

However, once Ayers gains his 90 pounds in a week he will be ready to bust some skulls.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I find it hilarious that you are joining an argument you find hilarious. Even more hilarious is that you bring the same hackneyed points bandied about ad nauseam, and even granted to some extent. At the very least all acknowledged as points of contention, and weighed. Yet, the front office still disagrees with your final assessment and yields a coveted roster spot, at least for the time being. So, thank you, as your quote says...for pointing out some of the obvious things we already know...and we should expect you to hate us for attempting to enlighten you.

Over-reaction much? I don't hate you or Daye, I just think it's funny that you're all arguing about the 15th guy on the roster who is unlikely to last here and has already shown us he's no NBA player over 5 seasons of play. Is there a possibility he's a Danny Green type, maybe, but it's a slim chance.