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I like Vasquez as a potential Mills replacement.
Even though he's a restricted free agent, the Raptors may not match an offer if they can get Lowry to re-sign.
Livingston's skillset would be a fantastic fit here. He doesn't shoot the 3 very often but he's a solid, long-armed defender, can handle point duties if necessary and is a very good passer. He definitely fits the mold of versatile players the Spurs are targeting. Thank you Boris and Manu.
I would love the Spurs to get another player that can attack the rim relentlessly like a younger Ginobili. Not sure one is out there.
I like Vasquez as a potential Mills replacement.
Even though he's a restricted free agent, the Raptors may not match an offer if they can get Lowry to re-sign.
I see what they were thinking in allowing him to be a restricted free agent now, but he could still mess things up if he signs an offer and forces them to match much sooner than Houston wants. Am I understanding this correctly?
If they didn't allow him to become a RFA, he would have been on the books very cheap but not as valuable as a trade asset.
See my post. No player can sign until July 11th. That means that Houston will have until July 14th to sign their free agent target before they have to match any offer sheet.
If Parsons signs someone else's offer sheet on July 11, the Rockets will have 3 days to match. Can they also match the offer and trade him or do they need to keep him per the new CBA? If Melo or James haven't made up their minds by then, Houston may be in tough position correct?
If he signs an offer sheet, that will be his new contract. Houston has only two choices, match the offer or let him go.
If they match, then they can't trade him to any team for one year without Parsons' consent. They can't trade him to the team that provided the offer sheet for one year even with Parsons' consent.
Of course, the usual restrictions on trading newly signed free agents (no trade until Dec 15th), also apply.
they could resign Mills and use Diaw's $9 million dollar cap hold, i believe, to stay over and use the MLE and then bird rights Diaw.
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Nets are limited by what they can pay to keep Livingston after all that luxury tax they paid. Bound to struggle to re-sign him at this rate
You certainly know your stuff. Ok, so the scenario I mentioned (Parsons signing an offer sheet before Melo, James, Lowry or Bosh have made up their minds) is probably the worst case scenario. Parsons doesn't have to sign the offer sheet right away unless the team courting him gives him a deadline. If Houston matches, Parson's takes up the cap space at a higher number and limits the amount of FA that Houston can pursue. I don't think Lowry is going to leave Toronto and the chances of getting Lebron or Bosh are pretty slim. That leaves Melo and Gasol and Gasol's not going to play with Howard again. So, at this point its match Parsons offer and go after Melo. If necessary, do a sign and trade with Harden to Miami and bring in James. Maybe that would be doable.
January 15, as Parsons would be a BYC player.
Dang. Snap crackle pop!
I'd like Livingston, he would be a good fit for us
Now the Rockets have no say in a sign and trade of Parsons at this point is basically what you are saying when it comes to this offseason. But if they had exercise his option, he would be under contract and a trade chip at the Rockets disposal right now. Rockets really f this one up bc if they kept Asik, they could have traded Lin, Asik, and Parson Maybe a 1st rounder as well to the Knicks for Melo. Lin is crowd favorite there, Asik would replace Chandler's loss, and Parson would replace Melo. I see this as a trade the Knicks would have made.
Now the rockets have no trade chips and the only way they can land Melo or Lebron is if either one wants to take a huge pay cut, seeing that they only have around 10 mil cap space when considering their holds. That is not happening.
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Eh, I just don't see the Livingston fit. He's a nice player to have if you expect Manu to be out 1/2 the season (jury's out on that w/ him playing this summer) but he's redundant. His best work is on the block or with the ball in his hand, two roles fulfilled by Manu/Diaw in the 2nd unit.
Even defensively, he's best suited to guard 2s and 3s. You need a guy to guard quicker PGs since nobody on the team can do that outside of Mills/TP.
If Patty leaves, then CoJo is a better fit at a cheaper price tbh.
Diaw might not be in the second unit. The C position should have plenty of minutes for Splitter and Tim to Split. This puts a lot of burden on Manu throughout the year and it's worse if Manu is out.
Not sure why this is a problem if he's playing with Mills. Unless you think the only way he comes is with the departure of Mills.
Livingston is a good backup PG, but I don't see the fit. He is a career 20% 3-point shooter. He barely takes 3s because he horrible at it.
SA needs a backup PG that can shoot 3s. That's basically what's holding Cory down to take the backup PG spot. I'd rather spend the MLE money on a 4th BIG that compliments Duncan/Splitter/Diaw.
Thanks.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
We fundamentally disagree on the generalities and specifics of this issue.
Time to move along.
Technicality question: if a team signs Parsons to an offer sheet, does his cap hold adjust to that number until the rockets match or decline our does it stay as it is.
Diaw should remain in the 2nd unit next season tbh. Not every team is a matchup problem for Tiago/Tim frontcourt especially in the regular season. Having Boris off the bench does many things namely 1) Allow Tiago to start and take the defensive burden off of Tim 2) Lessen the playmaking burden off Manu in the 2nd unit.
Livingston only comes here if Patty leaves, otherwise he doesn't see any minutes and would be an expensive luxury the Spurs don't need.
Mills is such a great backup PG because he's so different from TP with his range and quick trigger. Signing Livingston really doesn't replace any of the skillset that Mills brought to the table tbh.
Patty is such a good friend of Timmy, Tony, etc., that I'm pretty sure they want him to get as much as he can, it's a business after all, but at the same time they want him back on the team.
I think so too, good point, but do you think that Hou knows that Melo is probably CHI bound? IF they knew that, and they know they are outside looking in at Lebron, who is their primary target? I think Love is their guy? Could they give up Lin and Asik for him/Potentially?
The cap hold jumps to the number of the signed offer sheet. The drawback to doing that is that the Rockets can wait until the last minute to match that offer (that's 72 hours after the offer sheet was signed), so the other team has their cap space tied up for that period and might miss out on other free agents.
Mark Deeks as always does a good job explaining the situation with the Rockets and Parson's contract:
http://www.hoop365.com/nba/western-c...e-overpayment/
good move for them.
Yeah, that was a joke response. Didn't and won't go down like that.
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