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Wave goodbye to Mills if he gets that kind of offer.
livingston can play. if he could hit 3's he'd be incredible
Wave goodbye to Mills if he gets that kind of offer.
Signed Cartier Martin to a one year deal too. thought he might be a realistic choice for a backup SF.
I'm not sure. I think Mills is every bit as good as Meeks, but in saying that there's no way Meeks is worth $18m/3yr. So in essence, I don't think Mills is worth that either.
Massive overpay for Meeks. Dude is worth 3m at best. Should we start to be worried about Mills new contract ?
I thought Detroit was in good hands.
I don't mind Meeks, he could be a decent role player, but they still have Jennings for 2 years at $8m per and Will Bynum. That's $17m committed to 3 very below average guards.
While it's not a great deal, it's not Dumars level of incompetence. He should never get a front office job again after giving Smith and Jennings a combined $43m over the next 2 years.
Last edited by Richie; 07-01-2014 at 05:17 PM.
3yrs/9mil seems about right for Mills.
dumb. Jodie Meeks career year was on a terrible team because their star was gone. 6million a year. jesus
It's Detroit or some suck ass team every year that just wastes money on bull players.
Meanwhile, Miami's time horizon isn't just next year, it's several after that. Just outlast the Spurs.
Hard to know- it only takes one knucklehead. I suspect people might be a little wary of Mills because of the Spurs "system". He is basically a 6 foot shooting guard- and works well with the Spurs because they can have Manu or even Boris play the point are not rely on a traditional point. He might have a hard time replicating his success elsewhere and people may realize that.Massive overpay for Meeks. Dude is worth 3m at best. Should we start to be worried about Mills new contract ?
However... It only takes one knucklehead
That overpay for Meeks is bad news for the Spurs keeping both Mills/Diaw. Motherf'n Detroit tbh.
Jennings is absolutely one of my least favorite players in the league. Hes just a moron and a prick. Plus...hes terrible. Hes shoots 39% for his career. Not from 3....thats his overall FG percentage. And last season was even lower (37%). Terrible...just terrible.
....or just hope that Oklahoma City keeps Scott Brooks at the helm and is able to win the West.
There's 2-3 teams that Spurfan needs to keep a tab on during the offseason and none of them play in the East tbh.
Another way to look at it is it takes some cash out of the market. There's only a limited amount to go around and teams may be weary of focusing on Mills/Diaw given the likelihood of coming back to Spurs barring a crazy offer. Detroit knew Meeks wasn't likely headed back to LA.
I do worry about the rumors of Diaw to Portland (Batum?) but what can they really do to have the money?
As usual dumb owners and teams overpaying.
The top Superstars are underpaid as they rake in a lot of money for their team's owners, yet the average players get overpaid.
The players got screwed over in the last CBA, but the owners are the ones that are the real idiots for continuously overpaying average players. They can't save them from themselves.
I agree with one of the people a week or so ago that said what Kobe is getting paid is fair, as he's made the Lakers record profits and put a lot of money in the team's pockets than before he arrived there. What he's getting isn't really that much in comparison to what the owners have made off of him. he might not worth it now, but over the long run he made them way more money than he got from them.
The owners want to bring the salaries down even more so they can keep even more of the profit, yet the idiots keep overpaying for lower level players and keep crying that the players are making too much money. They're the idiots giving out the contracts. The players aren't forcing them to give out those contracts. The top few Superstars in the NBA keep lining their own team's pockets and aren't really getting anywhere near what they are making for their teams. When I say Superstars I'm only talking about guys like Lebron, the top two or three players in the league.
I don't see it. Unless you believe that stupidity is contagious.
In fact, if most teams agree with Detroit and rate Meeks higher than Mills, then the news can even be seen as a positive.
Spurs have a culture of winning. Mills might chase money but I believe diaw would stick around. We shall see if someone throws a huge sum his way and what's more important
Eh, I didn't think a SVG led FO would make this kind of offer for a player playing on a terrible team with zero incentive except individual numbers.
I'm not saying RC gives a similar contract to Patty. But if I'm Mills/Diaw and see this type of contract, I've got a few more bargaining chips compared to before.
I understand what you're saying, I just see it otherwise.
I don't see how SVG's overpay affect's the bargaining position of Boris or Patty. It doesn't mean that there's anyone else out there willing to overpay either of those guys. Especially Boris. As I look at it, the only team that's a threat to offer Boris a deal in excess of the MLE is Phoenix. If they bring back Frye or sign Hawes, then that threat goes away, IMO.
Patty is different. An MLE-sized offer can come from many different places and I'm not sure if the Spurs are willing to pay that much for a backup PG.
I don't think the deal had as much an impact on retaining Boris as it did on keeping Patty.
The Pistons overpaid for a shooter and my fear is that they might have set the market on those type of players. I don't see the Spurs giving Patty a similar deal to what Meeks got so I'm hoping he'll settle for less. Maybe other teams would have given Mills a similar deal regardless of what DET did (highly likely tbh) but it still peeves me to see the Pistons basically kick off the period with a blatant overpay.
And yes, Mel, I do think that stupidity is contagious when we're talking about 80-90% of the front offices in the league tbh.
Again, I understand what you're saying, but I don't see things the same way. The NBA free agent market isn't a rational market. The deal that Meeks got from doesn't set the market for what Team X offers shooter Y, IMO.
It can, however, embolden other players to hold out for something similar. The longer that Patty stays on the market, the more likely that the Spurs move on and sign someone else.
So, in that sense, I agree that this signing can have an effect on whether or not Patty remains a Spur
I can't make a persuasive case against that proposition.
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