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    Jameer Nelson came back after a long injury-based absence and helped Orlando in the PO's once upon a time. I am completely comfortable withPatty's missing the majority of the regular season at the expense of the contract he otherwise deserves, allowing CoJo to HAVE to improve (or compete with Bryce Cotton) to deserve the backup pg spot. Come PO time, there should be a clear answer as to who belongs on the roster, and I trust our FO to make the right decision(s).

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    This definitely brought his value down so it's time for the Spurs to strike while the iron is hot. 4yr/11m and we locked up a backup guard for nearly half a decade.
    You are disgusting. 4yr/11 mil? Jodie ing meeks got 8.5 mil in 1 year.

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    (Come to mention it -- Jameer just got cut...)

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    And shot 52% with a torn rotator cuff.


    should be a spur for life.


    champion of an individual.

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    You are disgusting. 4yr/11 mil? Jodie ing meeks got 8.5 mil in 1 year.
    So because one team is dumb enough to overpay for a player, we should do the same? lol No. Don't be so naive. Patty was going to take advantage of his play in the finals to make more than he should probably get, so now we should take advantage of his injury to get him for a cheaper price. It's business, not personal.

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    A 7 month recovery sounds like a really big deal. That's going to be hard but if anyone can overcome a setback it's this guy. Could be Cojo's year.
    That is the healing time of a torn rotator cuff, which Patty has. Most people can play sports with this injury. However, for his long term career, it's best he have it taken care of now.

    Estimated time of recovery is 6 months to be fully and able to resume high end sporting activities. Patty will be fine. Will give guys like Cojo and Daye minutes to develop further.
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    Spurs offseason needs to be:

    1. Re-sign Boris to a 3 year deal
    2. Re-sign Patty to a 2-3 year deal
    3. Extend qualifying offer to Baynes
    4. Try to sign Steve Blake or Chalmers. Thankfully Blake might have just lost his job in GS.
    5. See if Bonner signs for $1.5 million or less.
    Wouldn't you rather see if CoJo can win the backup PG job? He showed flashes of being a capable full-time backup during the playoffs (most notably in his play in Game 5 of the OKC series) and it's a contract year for him, so he's bound to be motivated to prove himself.

    Better yet, that course of action will allow us to preserve the full MLE to throw at a mid-tier free agent, a la Channing Frye, to take Bonner's role.

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    Neal went from playing at the Y to making 3 mil per because of the spurs. What are you crying about?
    The Spurs undoubtedly helped Gary Neal out tremendously. But the Italian League is hardly the Y. And he was making very respectable money abroad.

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    Another possibility that hasn't been discussed on this thread yet is trying Kyle Anderson at backup PG. That was, after all, his position in college, where he was one of the best in the country at it. It isn't foolproof, but it's worth a shot.

    Between Cory Joseph, Manu Ginobili, Boris Diaw, Marco Bellinelli, and Kyle Anderson, we already have a lot of PG-type playmakers on our team anyway. No need to delve into our MLE to get a new one.

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    Wouldn't you rather see if CoJo can win the backup PG job? He showed flashes of being a capable full-time backup during the playoffs (most notably in his play in Game 5 of the OKC series) and it's a contract year for him, so he's bound to be motivated to prove himself.

    Better yet, that course of action will allow us to preserve the full MLE to throw at a mid-tier free agent, a la Channing Frye, to take Bonner's role.
    Agree about CoJo - it'll be his 4th year in the league next season. It's time for him to prove he could be a back-up, or else he's of no use to the Spurs making over 2 mil, as a vet PG would cost twice less. If the Spurs do not believe that he'd be able to earn some 15 mins off the bench, then they're better off trying to dump his contract to some team that has cap space and needs players/salaries to fill up their roster in oct/nov.

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    (Come to mention it -- Jameer just got cut...)
    Yeah, I saw that. Has he declined so much in recent years?

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    So because one team is dumb enough to overpay for a player, we should do the same? lol No. Don't be so naive. Patty was going to take advantage of his play in the finals to make more than he should probably get, so now we should take advantage of his injury to get him for a cheaper price. It's business, not personal.
    So a guy who shot lights out in the finals, averaged 10 ppg in 18 mins in RS, and is arguably the best back-up pg in the Parker Era deserves 3.2 million a year? Talk about naivety.

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    I think he's earned a minimum of 4M per year (even with this injury).

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    Just great. Congratulations to Miami, 2015 NBA Champions.
    Let's not start sucking their s just yet.

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    Well that really sucks. Hopefully they can work out a deal and get him re-signed, then concentrate on rehab and getting him ready for another playoff run.

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    The severity of the injury is really a bummer for both parties. Glad it means that he's likely back but it sucks, esp for Patty.

    A combo guard like Bazemore makes a lot more sense now. But I'd still rather hand the reigns to CoJo until Patty is good to go tbh.

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    Another possibility that hasn't been discussed on this thread yet is trying Kyle Anderson at backup PG. That was, after all, his position in college, where he was one of the best in the country at it. It isn't foolproof, but it's worth a shot.

    Between Cory Joseph, Manu Ginobili, Boris Diaw, Marco Bellinelli, and Kyle Anderson, we already have a lot of PG-type playmakers on our team anyway. No need to delve into our MLE to get a new one.

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    That ing sucks. Mills was awesome for us last season.
    Get well soon, Patty! I hope (and think) PATFO will take care of him without screwing the Spurs chances.

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    Look on the bright side...at least the Spurs have another experienced backup point on the roster. Without Cojo they would really be ed.

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    I've had that injury. Took me two years to regain all my strength. For an athlete like mills, he should be good by playoffs.
    That is a vicscious injury, surgery and rehab. That's why when you are working at the gym you should not ignore working your shoulders on the cable cross machine to strengthen the rotator cuff.

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    Spurs offseason needs to be:

    1. Re-sign Boris to a 3 year deal
    2. Re-sign Patty to a 2-3 year deal
    3. Extend qualifying offer to Baynes
    4. Try to sign Steve Blake or Chalmers. Thankfully Blake might have just lost his job in GS.
    5. See if Bonner signs for $1.5 million or less.
    I was going to suggest this if Mills left, try and sign Chalmers, who I believe just had a bad year; he has been clutch his entire career, not sure what happened.

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    I hope we take care of Patty, and think we will.

    I don't want to try to low ball him too much, I think $11m/3yr is a fair deal considering how much he will miss. Give him a player option for his 3rd year if he wants.

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    That is the healing time of a torn rotator cuff, which Patty has. Most people can play sports with this injury. However, for his long term career, it's best he have it taken care of now.

    Estimated time of recovery is 6 months to be fully and able to resume high end sporting activities. Patty will be fine. Will give guys like Cojo and Daye minutes to develop further.
    Yeah, he needs 7 months to gain 20 pounds of muscle in his shoulder. WTF is high end sporting activities? Yachting?

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    That is a vicscious injury, surgery and rehab. That's why when you are working at the gym you should not ignore working your shoulders on the cable cross machine to strengthen the rotator cuff.
    It isnt really that bad. Many people have tears and no symptoms, and really this injury would affect his passing and dribbling before his shot. He's in a good spot where he can afford to have surgery and get adequate rest. It will sound a lot worse than it is. Great news for us trying to purchase his contract, because teams I would assume will have that same mentality. He will be fine, AND he doesnt play this summer.

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    Because he can't improve after the age of 22?
    It really doesn't matter what I think, he's going to get another opportunity. But, I don't think he learns how to pass over the summer, that's an innate skill...or ingrained over many many years. He has no knack for it. Pretty damning for a point guard. Tony was a better passer at 22, and Tony is least known for passing. Patty isn't a great passer, but he makes up for it with scoring. IMHO, Cojo's chance to improve is here, but he's light years behind Tony and Patty at the same stage in their careers. I will root for him, but I have very little expectation. He is going to be little more than the equivalent of a "game managing" quarterback in the NFL. He seems like a great kid, but after this last year of his contract, I hope we look elsewhere if his trajectory remains on course.

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