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    Which part? I see Chicago adding some offensive firepower from a FA (Gasol, Stephenson) and getting Rose back. That alone will put them over the top of an old and depleted Miami team. Lebron is the key to them contending but he isn't getting any additional help in Miami. I have a feeling he just might not be back next year. I have no idea where he would go but it may not be Miami.
    Rose looks way more done than Wade. If you put LeBron's Cleveland team around him I'd say he still comes out of the east. That conference is such . There's no one even close to the 09 Magic behind Miami in the East.

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    Were they wearing those funny glasses and clothes?

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    I bet Westbrooks pitch was just stand there and give me the ball and let me go to work you won't have to do anything.
    Spurs would never do this. The Admiral was the last one who did and it was to TD.

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    Isn't Gasol good friend of Tony?

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    ESPN has learned that Thunder stars Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook made a come-to-OKC pitch directly to Pau Gasol today in Los Angeles

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    If he's gonna take a paycut, it would be to go to miami, not san antonio lol
    You sure? lebron might not stay

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    Rose looks way more done than Wade.
    Despite his young age, Rose is a huge question-mark at this point.

    Like a pint-sized Oden.

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    Rose looks way more done than Wade. If you put LeBron's Cleveland team around him I'd say he still comes out of the east. That conference is such . There's no one even close to the 09 Magic behind Miami in the East.
    Rose has looked great when he's been able to stay on the floor. His injuries can be repaired. Wade's issues are chronic and not getting better. He can't play an entire 82 game schedule anymore. - Much like Manu.

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    Spurs would never do this. The Admiral was the last one who did and it was to TD.
    Very true.

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    Despite his young age, Rose is a huge question-mark at this point.

    Like a pint-sized Oden.
    I don't think he's a question mark at all. Kobe was better last year than Rose.

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    Rose has looked great when he's been able to stay on the floor. His injuries can be repaired. Wade's issues are chronic and not getting better. He can't play an entire 82 game schedule anymore. - Much like Manu.
    Where are you getting this ?

    Rose shot 35% and had a PER of 9.82.

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    Where are you getting this ?

    Rose shot 35% and had a PER of 9.82.
    I'm not judging his capabilities on a 10 game sample size. I wasn't expecting him to be MVP Rose when he returned after missing an entire year of compe ive basketball. It will take at least a few months to get his stride back but he'll be fine. He may not be the same explosive player, but he'll be very good.

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    Rose may well recover.

    But I wonder about injured guys who take huge sums of money seemingly without contrition.

    I don't think that's a good sign.

    It was the first tip-off on who Oden was.

    Then there was Kobe's demanding at ude when he contributed nothing except constricting the Lakers' ability to rebuild.

    Rose refusing to "recruit" Melo ("it's not my job") fits right in.

    Not a good sign if I'm a Bulls fan.

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    That's true. They do have trade options, and Perkins is one of the few remaining amnesty candidates.
    Probably wouldn't make sense to amnesty Perkins at this point, they'd drop to $59.5 million and have only 4+ million to spend.They would need to probably move Collision and Roberson ($3.4 million combined to give them about $7.5 million to spend. They can just stay over the cap and use the MLE. The problem is that if they give that MLE to Gasol it leaves them with 12 players on $75.2 million, and add one more player on the minimum.

    They still need some depth on the bench Jackson, Lamb, Adams, Collision/ Perkins unless Pau comes off the bench. With a hole at SF with Butler and Sef probably gone.

    They would have a very full front court with Perkins, Ibaka, Gasol, Adams, Colison, & McGary

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    I'm not judging his capabilities on a 10 game sample size. I wasn't expecting him to be MVP Rose when he returned after missing an entire year of compe ive basketball. It will take at least a few months to get his stride back but he'll be fine. He may not be the same explosive player, but he'll be very good.


    His entire game is his athleticism. You were fine using that sample size until I posted his ty stats. Even if he gets to 2011 form that's still nowhere close to LeBron's current form. But Rose ever being an all-star again? I doubt it. I don't think he has the work ethic to even be Phoenix Penny Hardaway.

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    Probably wouldn't make sense to amnesty Perkins at this point, they'd drop to $59.5 million and have only 4+ million to spend.They would need to probably move Collision and Roberson ($3.4 million combined to give them about $7.5 million to spend. They can just stay over the cap and use the MLE. The problem is that if they give that MLE to Gasol it leaves them with 12 players on $75.2 million, and add one more player on the minimum.

    They still need some depth on the bench Jackson, Lamb, Adams, Collision/ Perkins unless Pau comes off the bench. With a hole at SF with Butler and Sef probably gone.

    They would have a very full front court with Perkins, Ibaka, Gasol, Adams, Colison, & McGary
    Sounds right. I haven't done the math on OKC's salary cap options.

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    Rose refusing to "recruit" Melo ("it's not my job") fits right in.
    Not a good sign if I'm a Bulls fan.
    He cared enough to be there with his teammates when Melo showed up. He worked out to show Melo that he's feeling good. I think he's got some friends on that team that may be traded to make the Melo thing work and he doesn't want to be a part of that. If Melo comes in and is not part of a S&T then that would be ideal.

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    Rose may well recover.

    But I wonder about injured guys who take huge sums of money seemingly without contrition.

    I don't think that's a good sign.

    It was the first tip-off on who Oden was.

    Then there was Kobe's demanding at ude when he contributed nothing except constricting the Lakers' ability to rebuild.

    Rose refusing to "recruit" Melo ("it's not my job") fits right in.

    Not a good sign if I'm a Bulls fan.
    I'd honestly give Kobe a better chance of regaining some of his previous form. Kobe is way less reliant on athleticism than is Gangster Disciple.

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    Why would he go to hole San Antonio if he can stay in Cali with the right contract ?

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    Why would he go to hole San Antonio if he can stay in Cali with the right contract ?
    Why did Howard go to hole Houston when LA2 was offering him $30 million more?

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    Why did Howard go to hole Houston when LA2 was offering him $30 million more?
    Kirby, tbh

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    OKC, apparently, doesn't want to give out deals beyond 2 years in length (ripped from hoophype.com/rumors) because of Durants FA.

    If MLE is really in play, Gasol would be the 4th big on a championship team. Duncan at 28 mpg, Splitter at 20 mpg and Diaw at 24 mpg (last year) he could carve out 20-24 minutes a game (not including rest games) Not to mention playing with Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and Diaw would allow him for some of the easy baskets in his career.

    Ibaka is going to be around 33 mpg with Adams at 20mpg and Perkins/ Collison 20mpg not to mention OKC going small with KD at the 4. It would probably be less minutes for Paul

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    lets get perkins

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    We were able to win the Finley sweepstakes in '06. We can sure as win the Gasol one in '14. Ya never know

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