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    Lance was offer 9 mil a year right? I thought that was fair imho.
    So did I, but it was calculated to be a number that Lance would see as a lowball offer. Bird has already signed Lance's replacement, he's just trying to get some sort of a useful asset in a S&T.

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    That roster is pure cancer. I don't even like George and think he's overpaid, but I could see someone rolling the dice on him outside that toxic situation. The only player on that team I like is West, but he's too old.
    Top 3 2-way player at the wing imho. With Bron and Whi. I like West too, sad he's wasting his final years on that squad but I don't dislike George though.

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    So did I, but it was calculated to be a number that Lance would see as a lowball offer. Bird has already signed Lance's replacement, he's just trying to get some sort of a useful asset in a S&T.
    Makes sense but the dude is worth what he was offered imho. And Bird still seemed to love Lance to be back even after his BS against Bron.

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    Dragic was 3rd-team All-NBA last season and is only getting better. The only way Dragic gets traded is if a superstar comes to Phoenix in return. Lance won't cut it.
    That's about the equivalent to hearing Houston called and offered Lin or LA2 offered Kobe. LOL Bird thinking anyone wants Lance. I bet he got a 480 on his SAT just like Kidd.

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    Makes sense but the dude is worth what he was offered imho. And Bird still seemed to love Lance to be back even after his BS against Bron.
    Bird also wants the fan base to believe that the team made a good faith effort to keep Lance. If he leaves, they want him to be perceived as the bad guy.

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    Top 3 2-way player at the wing imho. With Bron and Whi. I like West too, sad he's wasting his final years on that squad but I don't dislike George though.
    George played pretty horribly in the Pacers' funk. I still think he's grossly overrated off one great series in the '13 ECF.

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    Bird also wants the fan base to believe that the team made a good faith effort to keep Lance. If he leaves, they want him to be perceived as the bad guy.
    Well yeah, always been the scapegoat behind Hibbert.

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    LOL, why is Phoenix taking that call? Unless the offer is Paul George, I tell Bird to go himself.
    Yes, exactly. No reason for the Suns to do this.

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    Don't see Dragic fitting in the Pacers system. Fantastic offensive player, average to below average defensive player, great ball-handler but will take possessions away from PG. I can see him revitalizing Hibbert by feeding him, but on the other hand, Hibbert clogging the lane will cut off penetration opportunities for Dragic.

    Dragic is a layup or 3 guy, he does have a good midrange game, but that's not his bread and butter, he penetrates and does it very well. With Hibbert in the middle, West clogging the lane, and pretty much no outside shooting, Dragic will be severely limited.

    This is an acquisition that looks good on paper, but will likely end up hurting both team and player. Unless the Pacers unloads Hibbert for a stretch 4/5, and add a couple of shooters in the process, I can see them being a fantastic team in that scenario. Shooters are easy to acquire, stretch 4s and 5s, especially good ones who can play a little D, are not.

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    Don't see Dragic fitting in the Pacers system. Fantastic offensive player, average to below average defensive player, great ball-handler but will take possessions away from PG. I can see him revitalizing Hibbert by feeding him, but on the other hand, Hibbert clogging the lane will cut off penetration opportunities for Dragic.

    Dragic is a layup or 3 guy, he does have a good midrange game, but that's not his bread and butter, he penetrates and does it very well. With Hibbert in the middle, West clogging the lane, and pretty much no outside shooting, Dragic will be severely limited.

    This is an acquisition that looks good on paper, but will likely end up hurting both team and player. Unless the Pacers unloads Hibbert for a stretch 4/5, and add a couple of shooters in the process, I can see them being a fantastic team in that scenario. Shooters are easy to acquire, stretch 4s and 5s, especially good ones who can play a little D, are not.
    Exactly, with team D they can cover up for Dragic. And the system would change with him, their offense is so ing bad that if they go down by 10 it's almost over because it the lead feels like 30. And also, PG should not hold the ball for most of the possessions, he doesn't/can't be Lebron.

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    Damn the 90's Pacers would absolutely destroy today's Pacers

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    If Indy can get Dragic and keep George/West/Hibbert, Indy will be champions next year.

    Dragic is still arguably the most underrated player in the NBA IMO.

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    If Indy can get Dragic and keep George/West/Hibbert, Indy will be champions next year.

    Dragic is still arguably the most underrated player in the NBA IMO.
    That will never happen because the Suns management is not re ed.

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    If Indy can get Dragic and keep George/West/Hibbert, Indy will be champions next year.

    Dragic is still arguably the most underrated player in the NBA IMO.
    [Roddy Beaubois] has Tony Parker type quickness and finishing, Derrick Rose explosiveness and athletic ability, and damn near Steve Nash level jump-shooting ability. He might be as naturally gifted and talented as any PG/undersized SG in the league right now.

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    That will never happen because the Suns management is not re ed.
    Their owner, however...

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