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All you do is dance on graves, asshole. Even better if they're " ing farmers and ranchers".
You Lie, asshhole
I don't dance on anybody's grave
I ignored nothing, did not ignore the Seattle shooter sicko, I -slapped you front an center.
All you do is dance on graves, asshole. Even better if they're " ing farmers and ranchers".
You Lie, typical right-winger, all y'all have to offer is propaganda, slander, lies
‘This isn’t the Wild West anymore’: Bill Maher destroys Open Carry Texas ‘ammosexuals’
The thing about “gun culture,” Real Time host Bill Maher said on Friday, is that there’s not much actual culture — it’s really about the guns, and their owners’ unhealthy attachment to them.
“You guys aren’t just firearm enthusiasts,” Maher said. “You’re ammosexuals. And before you try and deny that you have some sort of unnatural romantic relationship with your gun, consider this:
You’re taking it out to dinner. Because it completes you. Get a room.”
Maher advised gun ownership advocates to remember that having firearms didn’t give them a license to scare the rest of the population.
“Chill out, Josey Wales,” Maher said. “This isn’t the Wild West anymore. Clint Eastwood is directing Jersey Boys now.”
Maher also shot down (so to speak) the group’s argument that they needed to conduct these demonstrations or risk “losing” their Second Amendment rights.
“Well no, Cletus,” he scoffed. “You don’t. They’re cons utional rights, therefore you can’t lose them. Perhaps you’re thinking of frequent flier miles.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/0...e+Raw+Story%29
Need me to bump the Sandy Hook thread to refresh your grave dancing memory or are you just a liar?
And yes, you did ignore the Seattle shooting because it defies your narrative in every aspect: Non white liberal. Liberal city. Liberal school. Extremely strict gun laws. Gun free zone. Pump shotgun.
Go Ahead, Make My Day, bump away.
Dearest mind reader, how do you know I IGNORED the Seattle shooting?
When you brought it up, I slapped you, .
There are SO MANY sicko gun fellator "guns ARE the solution" shootings, eg, the sovereign GA asshole shooting up a court house ( I IGNORED IT!), it's pointless to post them all, although you gun fellators leaving your guns around, cleaning your loaded guns, whatever, allowing wives, friends, kids to get shot is always worth making the point OVER AND OVER AND OVER. Your perverted gun culture is profoundly sick.
"First, the bad guy with a firearm that gunned down four innocent students was stopped by a good guy with pepper spray; not a gun.
Further, because the
bad guy with a gun did not have an extended magazine like the NRA and gun maniacs fight desperately to put on the streets, he had to stop and reload
giving the security guard the opportunity to pepper spray and wrestle the shooter to the ground preventing even more carnage.
Also, the NRA wants every man, woman, and child armed and dangerous, and if that had been the case while the security guard was wrestling the shooter to the ground, there were reports that bystanders first thought there were two shooters and if one of them had been armed and began firing, they likely would have shot and killed not only the good guy with pepper spray subduing the shooter, but other innocent students attempting to flee the malaise."
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/06/...iticus+USA+%29
Bad guy with a gun stopping to reload was stopped by (an OFFICIAL) good guy with pepper spray.
NRA/gun fellators probably ridicule the bad guy as an incompetent, under-equipped shooter rather than condemn him as one of their own sicko, blood-thirsty, murderous creations.
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Supreme Court: Gun buyers must report when they purchase firearms for someone else
On Monday, the Supreme Court upheld two lower court decisions requiring that so-called “straw purchasers” to report when they are purchasing guns for other people.
The “straw purchaser” in the case was Bruce James Abramski, who purchased a Glock 19 for his uncle but indicated on the accompanying federal paperwork that he was the “actual buyer” of the gun. Abramski’s lawyer, Richard Dietz, contended that because both Abramski and his uncle were licensed to own firarms, he didn’t violate federal law when he transferred the Glock 19 to his uncle.
“Congress didn’t use terms like ‘true buyer’ or ‘true purchaser’ or ‘actual buyer’ because they are not concerned about the ultimate recipients of firearms or what happens to a gun after it leaves the gun store,” Dietz said during oral arguments in January.
The Justice Department argued that Congress had intended to identify the ultimate recipient of the firearm, and the Supreme Court agreed.
Justice Elena Kagan, who wrote the ruling, said that using Dietz’s logic, “it does not matter whether the ultimate transferee was Al Capone or somebody else.” Justice Samuel Alito added that allowing licensed dealers to sell firearms without knowing who the final owner is would make existing gun statutes “utterly meaningless.”
Dissenting Justice Antonin Scalia wrote that the Supreme Court was overruling the letter of the law. “The court makes it a federal crime for one lawful gun owner to buy a gun for another lawful gun owner,” he wrote in his dissent. “Whether or not that is a sensible result, the statutes Congress enacted do not support it.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/1...e+Raw+Story%29
"one lawful gun owner to buy a gun for another lawful gun owner"
Yes, that's EXACTLY what Congress intended!
you're lawful? then go buy your own ing gun in person
RED STATES SUCK, BLUE STATES SUCK LESS
10 States Where Guns Are Most Likely, And Least Likely, To Kill People
In what states are guns most likely, and least likely, to kill people? Every day in America, nearly 90 people are killed [3] by guns, a total of roughly 32,000 annually, according to federal gun violence statistics [3].
But blue states are far safer than red states, according new analyses of the most recent data. That’s because states with the most gun controls, which are almost all blue, tend to have fewer gun owners and fewer guns used in suicides, crime and domestic disputes.
Nearly two-thirds of all gun deaths are suicides. There, states with the highest gun ownership rates and loosest laws have the highest percentages of deaths this way. Otherwise, poverty is a major factor, correlating with gun violence.
“The five states with the highest per capita gun death rates in 2011 were Louisiana, Mississippi, Alaska, Wyoming, and Montana,” the Violence Policy Center (VPC) said in its latest analysis [3] of federal statistics. “Each of these states has extremely lax gun violence prevention laws as well as a higher rate of gun ownership. The state with the lowest gun death rate in the nation was Rhode Island, followed by Hawaii, Massachusetts, New York, and New Jersey. Each of these states has strong gun violence prevention laws and has a lower rate of gun ownership.”
“The overwhelming trend is that the strong gun law states have seen dramatic declines in violence,” John Roman, a senior fellow at the Urban Ins ute, told 247wallst.com, which also reported [4] on states with the most gun violence. “Weak gun law states have not seen the same decline.”
What states have the most gun-related death?
1. Louisiana. According to the Violence Policy Center, 45.6 percent of homes have a gun. The state had almost 19 gun-related deaths per 100,000 residents in 2011, the most in the nation. It had the country’s highest murder rate, and its gun suicide rate also was higher than the national average. “Louisiana residents also struggle with high poverty rates and poor educational attainment,” 247wallstreet.com said, noting it was the third poorest state with almost 20 percent of residents below the official poverty line. “Like other states on this list, Louisiana’s gun laws do not require residents to have a pernit before purchasing a handgun.”
2. Mississippi.According to VPC, 54.3 percent of homes have a gun. Mississippi also has the nation’s highest poverty rate, 24.4 percent in 2012, and the second highest murder rate, according to 247wallstreet.com. “The state’s suicide rate was also quite high,” its analysis said, “and it trailed behind most states in other factors such as access to basic necessities, health care, and household income.”
3. Alaska. Unlike the deep South, poverty is not an obvious factor. Alaska has some of the “highest educational attainment rates and median household incomes,” 247wallst.com said. But easy access to guns means that guns are used more often. Alaska has the second highest rate of violent crimes of any state, second only to Tennessee. And it has the country's third highest rate of gun suicides. As VPC noted, 60.6 percent of Alaskan homes have guns.
4. Wyoming. No state is immune to gun violence, but Wyoming’s fourth ranking comes in part because the population is so small—as the least populous state. Still, VPC notes that 62.8 percent of homes have guns. That proximity to guns resulted in the second-highest gun suicide rate; only nearby Montana has a higher gun suicide rate. Otherwise, violent crime is well below the national average, 247wallstreet.com found. “There were just 219.3 violent crimes per 100,000 residents in 2011,” it said, compared to 386 nationwide.
5. Montana. Crime statistics tell much the same story as its neighbor, Wyoming. Montana has one of the lowest murder rates in the country, but it has the country’s highest suicide rate. As a rural western state, it’s not surprising that 61.4 percent of homes have guns, VPC reported. “Montana’s high suicide rate may be due in part to extremely low population density,” 247wallst.com said. “According to the American Psychological Association, suicide rates tend to be higher in rural areas for a variety of factors, including ‘greater access to firearms, high rates of drug and alcohol use, and few health-care providers and emergency medical facilities.'”
And The Safest Gun Violence States?
The states that had the lowest levels of gun-related killings were in the Northeast and Midwest. According to VPC’s analysis [5], the 10 safest states were: Rhode Island, Hawaii, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin. But even those states had unacceptable levels of gun violence, VPC said, noting that the United States was far more violent than most Western industrialized nations.
“The nationwide gun death rate was 10.38 per 100,000. The total number of Americans killed by gunfire rose to 32,351 in 2011 from 31,672 in 2010,” it found [3].
“America’s gun death rates—both nationwide and in the states—dwarf those of most other Western industrialized nations. The gun death rate in the United Kingdom in 2011 was 0.23 per 100,000 while in Australia it was 0.86 per 100,000.”
Put another way, Australia, founded [6] by exiled British criminals, had 1/12th the level of gun violence of the U.S. The U.K had 1/45th the level of American gun violence.
http://www.alternet.org/civil-libert...age=1#bookmark
Oh look! More "analysis" from the resident nutbar.
2/3 of the "data" are suicides.
From the comment section of alternet
There are intelligent ways to examine these data, but regurgitating VPC "analysis" is not one of them. It is intellectually dishonest to its core. Allow me to explain.
Suicides deserve their own analysis. There is very little to conclude here other than people who are determined to die will generally choose an effective way to die. Furthermore, we can see that the suicide rate in the US is not notably high. Japan comes in much higher than we do, and guns are all but outlawed there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
Including suicides in this analysis serves only to distract and obfuscate readers into believing that guns pose a greater risk than they do. If the VPC were to repeat this analysis without suicides we will have something to discuss. Don't hold your breath for that, because it will not be able to produce the sort of alarming numbers that they are after.
Riddle me this, my dear Stalker: How mnay fewer suicides would there be if USA were not $aturated with gun$?
I'd guess the number would be much lower if the USA wasn't saturated with over-medicated people.
Stalker.
As for the question, that's one that VPC
If the pro gun lobby wants to keep looking to Chicago or whatever urban squalor for their side, I think it only fair that you look to the states seeing that is where the delineation of lawmaking is predominantly.
You guys aren't even arguing on merit although in general I agree with your reservations about his sources, TB.
The debate is a worthy one that needs to be had. However, it's certainly worthy of quality data. A spit take from VPC serves the discussion poorly.
Oh I agree. I have spent some time trying to convince him that if he stopped using ty sources and tried to appeal to intellect that he might actually compel some minds.
He of course has no interest in that. This place seems to be some form of mental masturbation for him.
Only two show as open carry demonstration in Virgina shoots blanks on 4th of July
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/0...e+Raw+Story%29
Good. Just shows that 99.99999% of responsible gun owners don't support these open carry attention s.
the open carry lobby is about an assertion of power: With the backing of their firearms, they will either change how you think and behave by conditioning or by fear, but in either cir stance the attempt is to manage the surrounding population in some way or another.
This is precisely the sort of response you would expect from a culture that lives on the fear-mongering techniques of right-wing media;
after all, one response to living in a state of perpetual fear of persecution or attack is to claim the mantle of fearsomeness for oneself.
But this is a self-perpetuating cycle of fear and the infliction of fear, and the prize at stake is control.
With luck these theatrical demonstrations of power will die down, but each motion of the state to contain them is interpreted as persecution, fueling the spiral.
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/gun-nuts-sick-power-trip-whats-really-behind-open-carry-crusade?akid=11996.187590.6R_t0t&rd=1&src=newslett er1010027&t=9&paging=off¤t_page=1#bookmark
Maryland man killed while testing bulletproof vest
A Maryland man faced murder charges on Friday after accidentally shooting his friend while testing out a bulletproof vest, a shooting reportedly recorded on a video camera.
Baltimore police arrested Mark Ramiro, 30, after he fatally shot Darnell Mitc , 28, late on Wednesday.
The Baltimore Sun reported on Friday the shooting was recorded on a video camera by a third person.
In that video, Mitc brags that he is about to take a “deuce deuce in the chest” - a shot from a .22-caliber bullet - before Ramiro, who is seen standing in front of Mitc , fired the handgun once. He struck Mitc just above the vest, the newspaper said.
Police would not comment on specific evidence.
Ramiro drove Mitc to a hospital where he was pronounced dead, according to police. Ramiro is being held on homicide charges and weapons violations.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...e=domesticNews
guns make you as stupid as religion does
U.S. Congress staffer arrested on weapons charge
A staff member for a Pennsylvania congressman was arrested on Friday after he tried to carry a handgun and magazine into a House of Representatives office building, U.S. Capitol Police said.
Ryan Shucard, press spokesman for Republican Representative Tom Marino, was arrested about 9:15 a.m. (1315 GMT) as he tried to enter the Cannon House Office Building.
A metal detector
He was arrested and charged with carrying a pistol without a license, a felony.
Marino's office said Shucard had been put on unpaid leave.
Shucard's LinkedIn profile showed he had been Marino's press spokesman since May. He also is a lecturer and adviser at the Washington Media Ins ute.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...e=domesticNews
guns make you as stupid as religion does
No, you lie, asshole.Maryland man killed while testing bulletproof vest
A Maryland man faced murder charges on Friday after accidentally shooting his friend while testing out a bulletproof vest, a shooting reportedly recorded on a video camera.
Baltimore police arrested Mark Ramiro, 30, after he fatally shot Darnell Mitc , 28, late on Wednesday.
The Baltimore Sun reported on Friday the shooting was recorded on a video camera by a third person.
In that video, Mitc brags that he is about to take a “deuce deuce in the chest” - a shot from a .22-caliber bullet - before Ramiro, who is seen standing in front of Mitc , fired the handgun once. He struck Mitc just above the vest, the newspaper said.
Police would not comment on specific evidence.
Ramiro drove Mitc to a hospital where he was pronounced dead, according to police. Ramiro is being held on homicide charges and weapons violations.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...e=domesticNews
guns make you as stupid as religion does
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