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    Uh... they have the best Stretch 4 in the game.
    The best stretch-four in the game is on the outs in SA.

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    If Robinson learns how to shoot, he'll be a really good four. If not, he and Kaman are going to be poor.

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    If Robinson learns how to shoot, he'll be a really good four. If not, he and Kaman are going to be poor.
    they don't develop players in portland.

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    The best stretch-four in the game is on the outs in SA.
    No, the best stretch 4 is probably Dirk Nowitzki, maybe surpassed by Lemarcus Aldridge.

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    The best stretch-four in the game is on the outs in SA.
    Not sure if serious. The best stretch four in San Antonio would be the third best stretch four in Texas, right?

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    I don't get Portland signing Kaman, but I like it. It means they most likely don't make a run at either Diaw or McRoberts.

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    No, the best stretch 4 is probably Dirk Nowitzki, maybe surpassed by Lemarcus Aldridge.
    Not sure if serious. The best stretch four in San Antonio would be the third best stretch four in Texas, right?
    Neither Dirk nor especially Aldridge is a stretch-four. I'm surprised I have to actually say that.

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    Neither Dirk nor especially Aldridge is a stretch-four. I'm surprised I have to actually say that.
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    Neither Dirk nor especially Aldridge is a stretch-four. I'm surprised I have to actually say that.
    Who are you talking about being on the outs with San Antonio then? Since you think that the guy who has basically defined the prototypical stretch four in the NBA for the last 15 years isn't a stretch four, I'm now quite interested in your answer.

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    IMO, a stretch 4 is somebody that possesses perimeter skills in addition to his size..Dirk and Aldridge have perimeter shooting ability, but it's not like either of them have ball-handling skills or passing skills, tbh..I don't think that being able to shoot really well from outside makes you a "stretch 4"..

    They're just PFs with really good jump shots..

    Excluding the new breed of "small ball 4s" like Lebron, Durant, Leonard, etc, I'd say the best "stretch 4s" in recent memory are Diaw and Odom, off the top of my head..

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    Who are you talking about being on the outs with San Antonio then? Since you think that the guy who has basically defined the prototypical stretch four in the NBA for the last 15 years isn't a stretch four, I'm now quite interested in your answer.
    Dirk isn't a stretch-four. He hasn't defined that role at all. In fact, no first option can be considered a stretch-four, since they aren't actually stretching a defense while they're playing. Could Dirk play that role on another team? Maybe. But he has never played that role before. Aldridge is a career-21-percent shooter from outside. He's not a stretch-four at all. Bonner has shot 44 percent from three over the past four years. That's why he's the best.

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    IMO, a stretch 4 is somebody that possesses perimeter skills in addition to his size..Dirk and Aldridge have perimeter shooting ability, but it's not like either of them have ball-handling skills or passing skills, tbh..I don't think that being able to shoot really well from outside makes you a "stretch 4"..

    They're just PFs with really good jump shots..

    Excluding the new breed of "small ball 4s" like Lebron, Durant, Leonard, etc, I'd say the best "stretch 4s" in recent memory are Diaw and Odom, off the top of my head..
    Come on. You know Bonner and Ryan Anderson are the best stretch-fours in the league. There are much more-complete fours like Odom and Diaw, but those guys aren't the floor-spacers Matt is.

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    That Kaman deal is questionable, but it makes me happy as a spurs fan.

    I'm glad they didn't throw money at a guy who performed against their team in the playoffs - BAYNES.

    Toss 3+ million a year his way and I doubt the spurs match. Baynes even though a gamble is on the upswing and has performed in the playoffs when asked over the past 2 years.

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    That Kaman deal is questionable, but it makes me happy as a spurs fan.

    I'm glad they didn't throw money at a guy who performed against their team in the playoffs - BAYNES.

    Toss 3+ million a year his way and I doubt the spurs match. Baynes even though a gamble is on the upswing and has performed in the playoffs when asked over the past 2 years.
    Terry Stotts wouldn't know what to do with him

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    Rockets better let Isaiah Canaan know they're going to use his #1 jersey and paint over the Melo one.

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    I like Dirk. Dirks good people.

    Too bad he got stuck on the ing Dallas Mavericks.

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    Dirk isn't a stretch-four. He hasn't defined that role at all. In fact, no first option can be considered a stretch-four, since they aren't actually stretching a defense while they're playing. Could Dirk play that role on another team? Maybe. But he has never played that role before. Aldridge is a career-21-percent shooter from outside. He's not a stretch-four at all. Bonner has shot 44 percent from three over the past four years. That's why he's the best.
    That's so wrong on so many levels I don't even have the heart to laugh at you. A stretch four is a power forward who shoots from outside. Power forwards historically were inside players. When the three point line came in, you had a couple of guys like Sam Perkins who could hit three pointers, but Dirk is the best shooting power forward ever, completely redefined what could be done from that position, and I'm unsure how there's even any discussion about that. It doesn't matter if they are the first option, there are four other guys on the team to stretch the floor for. And again, Matt Bonner is probably the second best stretch four on his own team. The fact that he's completely inept at all things not involving shooting from 24 feet away don't make him better at his position or his role. Parsons and Dirk are just miles better than he is.

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    I like Dirk. Dirks good people.

    Too bad he got stuck on the ing Dallas Mavericks.
    Wasn't his fault Mark Cuban picked him. /sarc

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    Bosh on HOU would be pretty incredible IMO...

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    I've always thought that a stretch 4 is someone that could take the opposing 4 out of the paint...I think of Bonner, Dirk on his younger days when he was more trigger happy with the three, Ryan Anderson.

    If my memory serves my right, Anyone that can shoot the three ball at a certain percentage was considered a stretch 4..Initially that's what people considered a stretch 4..Aldrige is not a stretch 4..

    Perhaps the strecth 4 in today's game is starting to develop a new meaning with the likes of Lebron, Leonard, Durant all playing at the 4 and all with a certain set of skill...

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    Bosh on HOU would be pretty incredible IMO...
    Thankfully McFail would still be their coach...

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    That Kaman deal is questionable, but it makes me happy as a spurs fan.

    I'm glad they didn't throw money at a guy who performed against their team in the playoffs - BAYNES.

    Toss 3+ million a year his way and I doubt the spurs match. Baynes even though a gamble is on the upswing and has performed in the playoffs when asked over the past 2 years.
    nobody is going to offer Baynes anything. Any team could have had him for vet minimum 18 months ago and since then he's barely done anything but play garbage minutes. Don't get me wrong, I think he has upside and Spurs should keep him, but he's on the lowest end of the radar of other teams in the FA market right now.

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    Bosh on HOU would be pretty incredible IMO...
    Why? They already have Bosh in Terrence jones. Both are left handed stretch 4's.

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