Two years, second year is an option. We should have money when Tim and Manu roll off next year. Not huge money, but more than OKC will be willing to spend, as in, no tax for you!
If he was willing to come to SA and be the 4th big and take a massive pay cut, then I don't see why we wouldn't want him on the team. He can still be an asset, especially with the way Pop uses the team. I would be more hesitant to take Pau if it's at the expense of Splitter or Diaw though.
Probably ignores it like a lot of people here did with a lot of Green's playoffs in 2012.
Couldn't the Spurs sell Pau on the idea that yes, he is bench big in year one (and maybe not even for some matchups), but that in years 2-4(?) of his deal he is the starter and heir to Duncan, with a great roster and Coach around him?
That's assuming Duncan is done after this year. And Pau's too old to waut to be somebody's heir.
They need to have Bonner meet with him.
I think the chances of re-signing Diaw just got significantly better after Portland signed Chris Kaman.
I'm sure something will get done next week.
Gasol ain't coming to SA and i'm against trading Splitter for now. His defense is still vital against a lot of teams not named the Heat or thunder.
Some writers over at Project Spurs noticed Diaw's been keeping mum. Either front office hasn't reached out or he's holding off contact, no one knows until when though. He seems to be surveying the FA landscape. This is a remote possibility but if Miami decides to sign and play him at center/point forward, that would do wonders for their ball movement. Lots of teams with cap space + stellar playoff performance = reasonable expectation of a payday.
I think he's just seeing if there's any money out there, other than the MLE.
The Spurs are never a team that will lock themselves into a closet and bid against themselves. I think they always have a figure that they would like to pay, they discuss it with the player in question, and tell them to go check the market.
One thing that works against Boris is that teams just don't know what to DO with him or how to use him in their schemes. They SEE how much better the ball moved when he was in there, but then they revert to form at look at old school playoff stats: 9.2 points 4.8 boards 3.2 assts. They have owners to answer to, and those numbers don't scream BIG PAYCHECK!
There are also teams that look at what happened in Charlotte and won't trust Boris with a long term, big money deal. It limits his possibilities.
Diaw works in San Antonio because of the system and the high basketball IQ of the players in this system. I think he enjoys playing on this team too much to leave. He will only go if someone offers something outrageous, but they won't.
Agreed. Teams would be skittish about his inconsistency. OTOH, someone might try to lure him away just b/c it would mess with SA's chances of repeating.
Looks like Portland tried, but failed.
100% he comes back to Spurs. Its the right fit and we have the cash.
I highly doubt Diaw is going anywhere. I'd say Mills had a better chance of playing somewhere else next year than Boris.
So how much money is left to sign Diaw and what is Baynes' qualifying offer?
And does whatever Baynes get effect Diaw??
We can sign Diaw to whatever amount of money because we can go over the cap to sign him, there is a qualifying offer already out for Baynes, nobody has expressed interest in Baynes so he'll probably be back.
I believe we are about $5-6 million under the cap and about $19-$20 million below the luxury tax limit. Plenty of room to resign Boris, may as well do a Splitter type deal with declining dollar values. Hard to peg Boris salary but he definitely proved himself this year. He got in shape and played heavy minutes in the playoffs, even earning a starting role that coincided with the most dominant stretch of basketball in NBA history. His first year I could see anywhere from $6 to $9 million on the high end. If we paid him on the high end, it would be more likely a 3 year $26 million like Splitter has left. I doubt we use the full MLE if we have to pay high end for Boris. Given the uniqueness of his fit here though, seems something in the middle would be about right, $7 to $ 8 million year one than possibly a declining dollar deal from there. Spurs should continue to plan for the day they actually have cap space, though I don't see us ever tendering a max offer for a free agent.
I should add as has been stated we can go over the cap to sign Boris so we have PLENTY of dough and it is virtually a lock he will be back. I don't see the Spurs going over $70 million payroll in any case, which is why the MLE usage is a maybe. Spurs also like to use partial MLE per recent history.
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Portland is using their MLE to sign Kaman, so I think they are out of the running for Diaw.
Rather keep Splitter and sign Pau instead of Boris.
Sham Sports shows us at $53.8 million, but I think that is without Baynes which brings us to $55 million. That is also without Mills so you can see we are then up to about $59 million with a cap of about $63. Boris will clearly command more than Mills, and you can see why the math starts to put us at $65 million+ after signing Boris. Spurs won't likely run the payroll up near $70 million in my opinion unless they can get a big fish like Gasol in free agency. Otherwise I think our dollar and roster size limitations will control.
I've seen some indicating they would like to trade Daye, Ayres, and possibly Belli. Belli averaged 11 PPG in the regular reason and hit some big shots in the playoffs. I don't see teams lining up for the other two, but I guess stranger things have happened. Certainly if we added a high quality big I'd think offloading Ayres would be a top priority.
Let's keep in mind though that those players were in year one of learning our system, and year 2 may be better.
We don't need Gasol when we already have Splitter and Duncan though. We do need Boris he is our small ball x factor. Actually he's so unique with his combination of size, passing, and ability to attack off the dribble I'd take him straight up over Gasol at this point in time.
Also the opinion has been expressed that we need to choose Gasol or Diaw. That's not really true. We have only the MLE available for Pau, or LESS than that if we didn't sign Diaw. I'm only seeing us with about $4 million in cap room, which is irrelevant to signing Diaw. If we don't use up our cap room we don't get the MLE, which starts at $5.3 million.
The more I think about it the more I like Gasol on our team though. It would be fun to punish teams with a big lineup of Duncan/Gasol/Diaw/Leonard/Manu.
I think most of us expect year two to be better. RJ may have been the exception to that.
People fail to realize that Splitter is a significantly better defender than Pao is, heck, even better than Timmy for that matter. Tiago shows on the pick n' roll and gets back, and his one-on-one post defense is superb...far better than Pao's at this stage of his career.
Pop didn't go away from Tiago because he was playing poorly, he did it because Ibaka had no back to the basket game, and Bosh is a soft player who would rather shoot outside than grind on the low block.
How many games did Pao miss due to knee problems last year? You want to rely that heavily on him?
I would like to have Pao on the team, but he isn't going to sign a one year deal at this stage of his career, so mle is the only chance, and it is doubtful he would go for that, unless he simply wants another ring, or a chance to piss the Lakers off for all treating him like garbage.
Bring back Fatso
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