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no. I still dont see why the talk is about WHERE he wants to go rather than HOW BIG OF A GIRL he is for wanting/considering leaving because he NEEDS MORE HELP.
again, the reason why he should never be considered as one of the best
Any team he plays on is going to be a le contender. I don't think that team would be nearly as good as Miami even if Bledsoe can stay healthy, but maybe he thinks Wade is done.
no. I still dont see why the talk is about WHERE he wants to go rather than HOW BIG OF A GIRL he is for wanting/considering leaving because he NEEDS MORE HELP.
again, the reason why he should never be considered as one of the best
This why I see the Heat as melting down rather than blowing up. That is my hope.
I disagree. Wouldn't you want to have an even greater chance of winning it all by getting through the west should you make it to the finals? What is the point of playing all of those extra games if you know that you only have a punchers chance of winning on the big stage? I would rather be seasoned by beating great teams to help prepare me for the Finals and have my chances of winning increased than to just run into a dead end when it matters.
I mean look at the Spurs path the the Championship this year.
1. Mavericks- great team basketball, switched the pick and rolls effectively. Spurs win. Taught the Spurs how to handle defenses switching pick and rolls, and how to defend against a great jump shooting big in the future.
2. Blazers- two individually talented players, superior speed and athleticism. Spurs win. Lessons learned from guarding a jump shooting big worked on Aldridge and the speed and athleticism of the Blazers prepared the Spurs for the Thunder.
3. OKC - ISO heavy two man team, superior speed and athleticism with a paint intimidator, aggressive switching and trapping in the pick and roll. Spurs win. OKC taught the Spurs how to handle an ultra aggressive defense attempting to get easy buckets by forcing turnovers in transition. Learned how to handle the individual talents of great players in Westbrook and Durant and toughen up mentally. Learned how to break the trapping defense and even attack the paint against a great interior defender.
4. Heat - Jump shooting big (Thank you Dallas and Portland), Excellent small Forward (Thank you Durant), Speedy athleticism and ultra aggressive defense (Thank you OKC), Physical point guard (Thank you Westbrook), Closing out to shooters (Thank you Dallas).
This is why the Spurs came out on top and Duncan made the remark that they would win this year. He spoke with supreme confidence that the Spurs had already faced everything the Heat could throw at them and they had every counter in the book already laid before them.
Excellent take!
What Lebron really wants is a recognition by Bosh and Wade that they are not on the same echelon as him, and for them to be paid accordingly to play with him. He's right, especially with respect to Wade.
Given the built in injury rest Wade gets, he should take the deepest cut. Riley SHOULD sign and trade Wade for a team with young assets (Cavs, Suns, Sixers), resign Bosh, and spend left over cash on FAs. But too much history with Wade, too much ego.
My money is on lbj getting the Max and begrudgenly staying with the Heat with a similar core.
Bosh and Wade opted out fully knowing the plan with Lebron was to restructure the contracts in a way that paid all 3 fairly (lebron max, bosh somewhat under that, and Wade somewhat less) while still having money to obtain a couple of good role players. No way Bosh and Wade walked away from 20mil a year for any other scenario. Lebron and Bosh are fully pressing Riley and the Heat to spend spend spend to upgrade the team. They are pushing the Heat to go over the cap to get Deng and maybe Morrow. But then again Riley knows that Lebron wouldnt back stab Wade by leaving. So either we have a big chess match going on, or Riley is working hard to make all the numbers work. Both sides know they are staying so it's more a matter of how much the Heat are willing to spend to get Lebron help. Obviously balls down to how much money each side is willing to give up to get the extra pieces. Both sides are playing hard ball. We'll see how this plays out.
Riley playing hard ball with James?
Well do you see Lebron foresaking Wade? Wade doesn't opt out unless there was some plan already in place. No ones going to pay Wade anything close to 20 mil. Maybe hardball wasn't the right word, but as I see it all these dudes are stuck with each other.Riley playing hard ball with James?
Wade opts out if James tells him he will leave if he doesn't.
Maybe James realizes the mistake he made long term by putting all his eggs in the Wade basket.
I understand what you are saying, but I think Riley cares too much what people think of him, ego like lebron, to be the guy "who didnt get Lebron the help he needed."
That is the problem possibly, ego.
All conjecture of course, but that Riley interview after the finals was very telling.
It was obvious he was leveling his attack at James.
I hope the Heat (Riley) fail miserably at attracting anyone to help James there.
The melt down would be memorable and deserved.
I am always happy to see the Mavs, Lakers, and Heat melt down, and to a lessor extent the Rockets and Thunder.
Good points, but on the contrary, lets just hypothetically take away all that you have taken into account for what the Spurs have done this year. While Spurs faced a uva conference, they managed to do so while avoiding / stalling injuries. Manu had a stress fracture after the finals from the bruising west. I would much rather have a team coast to the finals without any injuries and still take their chances at shooting well during the finals and playing good D to win than to have players injured by the time Finals rolls around.
Heat had an easy walk to the finals, but Wade's knees were taking a toll on him. If he was at even 90%, I expected him to make some of those turn around hook shots that all Spurs fans cringed every time Wade made them last year.
Shabazz Napier unimpressive in his summer league debut for Miami (3-15, 2 assists, 8 turnovers).
Looks like LeBron is about as astute a GM for the Heat as he was for the Cavs.
I would definitely get a fair degree of smug satisfaction out of the Heat breaking it up this offseason. We would be the team that broke up the Superfriends!
Dont you remember Lebron in Cleveland?
Had to get him some Larry Hughes
Then Wally and Ben Wallace
Then Delonte (sorry that may have been Gloria Asking for that)
Then Mo Williams
Then Shaq
...
Not a Free Agent or Draft came in to Cleveland that Lebron didnt get the say on... Not that I blame Cleveland, but Lebron is just a loser
Wow, James really wanted all those gots in Cleveland?
Summer league. Next game he could look like Gary Payton and that's all everyone will talk about. The PG situation has yet to be addressed for them. Despite Chalmers milk-boxing it in the postseason, he is still better than Cole and much more experienced than Napier. They have to be looking at Nelson as well but he could probably still net most of the MLE from a team (coming off a 12 ppg, 7 apg season, though he shot only 39.4% FG)
I don't understand the need for Deng unless its a homerun move to impress the big 3. I mean is Lebron going to play the 4 and Deng the 3 full time? and how doe that really help their rim protection and rebounding? it really doesnt. I think he heads to ATL.
The Heat definitely had an easy walk to the Finals but they never should have even made it there with a potential injury such as Wades. Instead, they were facing inferior compe ion and forcing their players to play longer than they should. In the west, a nagging injury to a key player almost always ends in an early exit. This is both good and bad. It is bad because I am sure they want to win, but it is also good to give them more time to heal up and prepare for next season before an even more serious injury can occur.
That part never actually happened it was made up and then reported as fact.
as for the list....
Its up to the GM (Ferry) to weigh whether they were good fits or not.
I mean not wanting to include Hickson for Stoudimire is shockingly bad. Stat was still really good at that time.
Wallace, Wally and Shaq are were way over the hill and Jamison was in his mid 30's when they got him.
I put most of the Cleveland debacle on the Cavs themselves.
To be fair with the Hughes signing, he had like one ridiculous season (something like 22ppg, 5 apg, 7 rpg, and 2.3 steals) and Lebron wanted him as a side kick. They picked him up on a 6 year, $72 million deal. Didn't work out too well after that.
Wade would actually have to agree to sign with that team and them to be traded. If he knew he was going to get shafted by the team he helped carry for a decade, then he wouldn't bother helping them. All 3 would have cap space to sign him as well, so no S&T needed.
Bosh is the one that could and should leave. If they don't pony up 5y/ $90 for him then he should bolt to Houston for 4 Y, $90 million. He'd be a much better fit in Houston and get the same money he is asking for in shorter time.
While I agree, it's the GM's job, honestly, do you think they ran it all by Lebron? I think they had to, and I would to if I were Danny Ferry, or Cleveland. Lebron ran that show.
If i'm right wouldn't this put them at 51.9mil if they renounced everyone and signed Lebron, Bosh, and Wade to these contracts. That would leave 11.4mil to sign Deng if the cap is 63.2mil. Can you go over the cap with the room level exception? Then they would be 11.35mil over the cap with all the exceptions(74.55mil?) not counting bonuses. The end of the roster would be a bunch of scrubs and no Mario Chalmers. I don't know if that makes them that much better.
I heard that LeBron vetoed a deal in his last season in Cleveland (2010) to bring in Amare Stoudemare. LeBron wanted Antawn Jamison instead and got him.
Jamison was a bust and the Cavs folded in the playoffs -- so LeBron left.
Stoudemare averaged 23.1 ppg and shot .557% that year.
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