Marvin Williams

[99 Problems]

Marvins not bad as our backup. It's a long reg season.

[Darkwaters]

He averaged virtually the same stats as Marvin in college, 11 and 6ish. Both drafted young on potential. Marvin was actually hyped worse, in my opinion, due to his North Carolina ties... And daye, same stuff, Gonzaga was the hot commod. They both were hyped by the media to do big things. Im actually shocked they are both still in the league.

Yes, their stats were very similar. But Marvin Williams was a physical specimen coming out of school with all the physical tools you could ever hope for. Despite it being a fairly top-heavy draft, Williams was intriguing enough that he was taken ahead of much better players (Chris Paul, Deron Williams, etc...).

Austin Daye, on the other hand, had HUGE concerns regarding his ability to put on weight and was an inferior athlete in just about every way. He also conceded a fair amount in terms of BBIQ and didn't project to have nearly the impact on the defensive end (despite his obvious length). He rode a pitiful draft class to a near lottery selection.

[raybies]

WILLIAMS

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I agree. He's most likely a Boris or Bonner replacement, if anything. Sure he could play the 3 against certain match-ups or in a pinch, but he's at his best as a stretch 4.

[Mr. Body]

Marvin Williams wasn't even a starter for his college team. He has to be one of the bigger busts in the last fifteen years.

That said, this is the type of player the Spurs will have to get to backup Kawhi. I'm just not sold on Williams at all.

[AFBlue]

As a Bonner replacement the Spurs could do a lot worse. He has all the tools to be a solid defender and spot-up shooter. The RJ comp is nonsense because it's not a similar role nor would it be similar dollars. Seems like the Spurs would be able to get more out of him than past teams, but that's probably me being optimistic. Either way, I'd be onboard with the move.

[AFBlue]

WILLIAMS

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I don't know. If you asked me who I'd rather see checking Durant when Kawhi goes out and gave me Manu, Beli or Williams, I'm choosing Williams every time. He's athletically gifted enough to play the position, even if he's been playing exclusively in the 4 role for the Jazz. New team, nrw possibilities? Not saying it'd be his primary role, but I do think he could do it.

[tholdren]

Marvin Williams wasn't even a starter for his college team. He has to be one of the bigger busts in the last fifteen years.

That said, this is the type of player the Spurs will have to get to backup Kawhi. I'm just not sold on Williams at all.

Yep Marvin is GAYE

[ceperez]

I don't know. If you asked me who I'd rather see checking Durant when Kawhi goes out and gave me Manu, Beli or Williams, I'm choosing Williams every time. He's athletically gifted enough to play the position, even if he's been playing exclusively in the 4 role for the Jazz. New team, nrw possibilities? Not saying it'd be his primary role, but I do think he could do it.

Excellent point. Williams definitely would be better defensively against Durant/Melo/Lebron compared to the undersized Ginobli or Belinelli.

But... is he worth $6 millions (i.e. 4 years 24 million)?

[exstatic]

Excellent point. Williams definitely would be better defensively against Durant/Melo/Lebron compared to the undersized Ginobli or Belinelli.

But... is he worth $6 millions (i.e. 4 years 24 million)?

Has anyone, excluding you, even MENTIONED the MLE?

He's a draft bust, nine years into his career. You do NOT pay the MLE to such a player.

[Spurs9]

I'd love to have Marvin tbh

[tholdren]

Marvin Williams has never been capable of anything more than a reserve role. Hes a bad shooter and even worse defender. I'd do it for the league min.

[ceperez]

Has anyone, excluding you, even MENTIONED the MLE?

He's a draft bust, nine years into his career. You do NOT pay the MLE to such a player.

I'm not saying Spurs should get him. I prefer some you can get for the minimum. Maybe Vince Carter, Mike Miller or Rashad Lewis. I wouldn't pay up for Marvin Williams even if he was only 27 years old.

[ceperez]

I agree... he's just an serviceable role player despite being drafted #2.

Speaking about lottery picks... what about Greg Oden?

[cd021]

Aminu. Thats all I ask. Aminu

[cd021]

A more interesting question that people seem to forget. If the Spurs sign a 3, then what happens to the bench?

Beli is the 2 guard and Manu is the 3. Unless they play Manu at PG, with Beli, SF, and Diaw and Baynes/ FA.

[ceperez]

A more interesting question that people seem to forget. If the Spurs sign a 3, then what happens to the bench?

Beli is the 2 guard and Manu is the 3. Unless they play Manu at PG, with Beli, SF, and Diaw and Baynes/ FA.

You also got Austin Daye and Kyle Anderson (Don't know where he'll play). I think an aging veteran is more likely to take the minimum.

[Darkwaters]

I think the max I'd consider for him is the BAE. But even that I'm unsure. Minimum is pretty safe.

If you're signing Williams though you're probably parting ways with Daye. Considering the roster crunch it's hard to fathom carrying both. Especially with the injury to Patty and the probable need of another PG fill-in.

[spurraider21]

Do not want

[cd021]

You also got Austin Daye and Kyle Anderson (Don't know where he'll play). I think an aging veteran is more likely to take the minimum.

I don't think either are ,top 9, rotation players at this point. Anderson is probably going to be a 3 but it would be interesting to see if he could play the 4 with Diaw at the 5 in certain situations. Cojo-Beli-Manu-Anderson-Diaw. The Spurs have 0 rim protection off the bench, anyways, so might as well go the blow the doors off route on our opponents.

[cd021]

I'd rather have Bazemore

[Ice009]

Won't be happy to see the Spurs use a significant chunk of the MLE on this guy.

If the Spurs use any of the MLE on this guy, that would be a Jeff Ayres like signing. If they want him, they better not use any of the MLE on him.

[Darkwaters]

If the Spurs use any of the MLE on this guy, that would be a Jeff Ayres like signing. If they want him, they better not use any of the MLE on him.

Concur. But since Nando de Colo's contract is now up it means we have the BAE again. And of course we always have minimum contracts.

Unfortunately, sacrificing the BAE would prevent us from using it next year on Bertans (or this year I suppose). So minimum is definitely the safest bet.

Tapping into the MLE to any degree would be stupid. He's not that big of a game changer.

[exstatic]

I'd rather have Aminu.

[CGD]

Utah really loved him I thought. I hope they keep him, and away from the spurs. He's too emotionally fragile/soft

[Ice009]

I'm not saying Spurs should get him. I prefer some you can get for the minimum. Maybe Vince Carter, Mike Miller or Rashad Lewis. I wouldn't pay up for Marvin Williams even if he was only 27 years old.

Is Mike Miller a free agent? Did he only sign for one year in Memphis? If so, how much was he paid last season?

I'd rather have Aminu.

I'm very interested in Aminu. How much do you think he'd cost? And how bad is his shooting? You think Chip can work on his shot and get him to be a decent shooter?