Top 10 Christian fails 2013

[RandomGuy]

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Muh bandwagon effect fallacy
muh slippery slope

You say that... but all I can see is:



You wouldn't know what a logical fallacy was if one came up and fish-slapped you.

The sting of your criticisms and charges of "hypocrisy" is so much lessened by the fact that you use words and phrases that you provably don't understand in a pseudo-intellectual rush to make yourself feel superior to others.

[RandomGuy]

Nope, I don't believe they are different en ies, and I have read both books among others in my search for the Truth.
IMHO there is only one God, just with many different names.

Define "God".

I don't?
And I just said I did.
If you didn't believe me the first time, why should you believe me now?
You make no sense.
And nonsense is not of my milieu, it is of yours tbqh.


[more conversation]

Couldn't have expressed [how ignorant randomguy is of logical fallacies] better myself, thanks.
But you are kidding yourself if you think [Randomguy] will understand.

[I.E. non-answers, where the question is ignored in favor of a troll repsonse.-RG]

The problem for you is that I understand better than either of you.

Well, you had a chance to make a credible argument.

Let me give you another one. You have made the claim "A God exists"

All I am asking you to do is to define "god" so we can maybe get some better understanding of our universe.

You have accepted the burden of proof, now take the first intellectually honest step.



Unless, of course you aren't being intellectualy honest. Is that what you are trying for?

[xmas1997]

The problem for you is that I understand better than either of you.

For the third time:

Define "God"

How does anyone define the indefinable? No one has even an infinitesimal conception of Him in the first place IMHO.
I do not have a problem with "understanding" either, so that makes two of us.
However our "opinions" may differ, and that is fine with me because I, like you, am only human, with our human limitations to deal with.
I say this to you with respect for your intelligence to discuss a topic without the need to cuss or make false accusations about my possible difference of opinion about it since it is a worthy topic that merits discussion.

[RD2191]

RandomGuy still failing at life.Look for God and you will find him.

[xmas1997]

RandomGuy still failing at life.Look for God and you will find him.

And you don't have to look any further than within yourself.

[RD2191]

He doesn't want to believe because it's convenient. He's afraid of a God existing. Wants to live his life without any repercussions or restrictions. But that's not the way it works. He has free will of course, but in the end unless he repents he will have to face God's judgement. God is a loving God of course.

[Blake]

Lol believing in invisible magic man in sky

[xmas1997]

Lol believing in invisible magic man in sky

So sayeth the literalist troll. Another one of your many lies, no doubt.

[Blake]

So sayeth the literalist troll. Another one of your many lies, no doubt.

You literally said you believe in God

you're an idiot.

[xmas1997]

You literally said you believe in God

you're an idiot.

I will ignore your lie and false accusation to say this, if you quit doing it then so will I quit calling you on it, in the interests of respectful civility.
Your choice. I laid down the olive branch.

[RandomGuy]

How does anyone define the indefinable? No one has even an infinitesimal conception of Him in the first place IMHO.
I do not have a problem with "understanding" either, so that makes two of us.
However our "opinions" may differ, and that is fine with me because I, like you, am only human, with our human limitations to deal with.
I say this to you with respect for your intelligence to discuss a topic without the need to cuss or make false accusations about my possible difference of opinion about it since it is a worthy topic that merits discussion.

So you think that something you won't define exists, and you repeatedly assert this thing that you won't describe exists.

Do you think this is a rational assertion?

Why should I accept it as true?

[RandomGuy]

RandomGuy still failing at life.Look for God and you will find him.

I have gone looking. What I found from his adherents was bad logic and books that were all claimed to be magically true, neither of which is horribly convincing.

[RandomGuy]

He doesn't want to believe because it's convenient. He's afraid of a God existing. Wants to live his life without any repercussions or restrictions. But that's not the way it works. He has free will of course, but in the end unless he repents he will have to face God's judgement. God is a loving God of course.

So much bad... don't even know where to start.

Let's start with debunking "God is love".

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"But anyone who does not love does not know God, for God is love." 1 John 4:8

"Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud "1Corinthians 13:4

"You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me," Exodus 20:5

In the logical form of Modus Tollens, the following is the conclusion drawn from the above passages:

P1. IF God is love, THEN God is not jealous.
P2. God IS jealous.
C. Therefore God is NOT love.

"Fear the Lord your God, serve him only and take your oaths in his name. Do not follow other gods, the gods of the peoples around you; for the Lord your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land. Deut. 6:13-15

"Nevertheless, many Christians attempt to show a distinction between love and jealousy, and righteous jealousy by asking hypothetical questions such as, "If my wife runs out on me with another man, and I am jealous, does that prove I love her?" This counter example however, does not work, because either the Bible is correct in that God cannot love and be jealous, or, the Bible is wrong--and he can love and be jealous. This is a dilemma, and illustrates the absurdity of the Christian position, especially when we consider the following verse."

"Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud " 1 Corinthians 13:4

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1 Samuel 6:19-20King James Version (KJV)

19 And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.

2 Kings 2:23-24King James Version (KJV)

23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

2 Samuel 6:3-7King James Version (KJV)

3 And they set the ark of God upon a new cart, and brought it out of the house of Abinadab that was in Gibeah: and Uzzah and Ahio, the sons of Abinadab, drave the new cart.

4 And they brought it out of the house of Abinadab which was at Gibeah, accompanying the ark of God: and Ahio went before the ark.

5 And David and all the house of Israel played before the Lord on all manner of instruments made of fir wood, even on harps, and on psalteries, and on timbrels, and on cornets, and on cymbals.

6 And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.

7 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

Hosea 9:11-16King James Version (KJV)

11 As for Ephraim, their glory shall fly away like a bird, from the birth, and from the womb, and from the conception.

12 Though they bring up their children, yet will I bereave them, that there shall not be a man left: yea, woe also to them when I depart from them!

13 Ephraim, as I saw Tyrus, is planted in a pleasant place: but Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer.

14 Give them, O Lord: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.

15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

16 Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.

Ezekiel 9:4-7King James Version (KJV)

4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.

I could go on. Bible God is a psychopath. I wouldn't worship him even if he were real, no one should.

"live his life without any repercussions or restrictions"

I can do anything I want to, murder, rape, pillage, and whatever other depraved thing I want to, and in the last second of my life, accept Jesus as my savior and I go to heaven. If any of my victims weren't Christians, they would die and go to . I completely escaped the consequences of my actions within the framework of the Bible, and my victims will be eternally tortured.

Lastly the bad joke of "free will".

If someone comes up to you, sticks a gun in your face and says "it is completely your choice of course, but I would like you to, of your own free will, give me your wallet. If you don't, I will shoot you in the face and dance on your corpse. The choice is completely up to you, you have free will to say no."

Not much of a choice innit?

[Blake]

I will ignore your lie and false accusation to say this, if you quit doing it then so will I quit calling you on it, in the interests of respectful civility.
Your choice. I laid down the olive branch.

Civility starts with you not getting butthurt and taking it personal when you get a negative response on your post.

And frankly, I have little patience with someone that has extremely poor logic and reasoning skills.

sorry, but I'd rather just sit here and lol when you say something stupid.

And your history here says it won't be long.

[xmas1997]

So you think that something you won't define exists, and you repeatedly assert this thing that you won't describe exists.

Do you think this is a rational assertion?

Why should I accept it as true?

Okay first, you used the word "won't" for whatever reasons make you happy.
I used the "can't" and said why as simply as possible.
So yes, as I stated my opinion, it was a rational assertion.
Second, I was not, nor ever have, tried to convince you of anything, including God.
Where you got that idea in the first place escapes me.
What you believe, and what you want to believe, is entirely your business, not mine.
Are we clear now?

[Ignignokt]

Lol believing in invisible magic man in sky

*tips fedora

[Ignignokt]

So much bad... don't even know where to start.

Let's start with debunking "God is love".

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In the logical form of Modus Tollens, the following is the conclusion drawn from the above passages:

P1. IF God is love, THEN God is not jealous.
P2. God IS jealous.
C. Therefore God is NOT love.



"Nevertheless, many Christians attempt to show a distinction between love and jealousy, and righteous jealousy by asking hypothetical questions such as, "If my wife runs out on me with another man, and I am jealous, does that prove I love her?" This counter example however, does not work, because either the Bible is correct in that God cannot love and be jealous, or, the Bible is wrong--and he can love and be jealous. This is a dilemma, and illustrates the absurdity of the Christian position, especially when we consider the following verse."



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I could go on. Bible God is a psychopath. I wouldn't worship him even if he were real, no one should.

"live his life without any repercussions or restrictions"

I can do anything I want to, murder, rape, pillage, and whatever other depraved thing I want to, and in the last second of my life, accept Jesus as my savior and I go to heaven. If any of my victims weren't Christians, they would die and go to . I completely escaped the consequences of my actions within the framework of the Bible, and my victims will be eternally tortured.

Lastly the bad joke of "free will".

If someone comes up to you, sticks a gun in your face and says "it is completely your choice of course, but I would like you to, of your own free will, give me your wallet. If you don't, I will shoot you in the face and dance on your corpse. The choice is completely up to you, you have free will to say no."

Not much of a choice innit?

Scoff, progressivism is basically secular presbytarianism. Bunch of whackos that ruined america.

[Blake]

*tips fedora

you had that in your photobucket arsenal just waiting for someone to lol God, didn't you.

[TDMVPDPOY]

god is a pussy

ppl love to say if you do evil deeds u go straight to and get punish

so going to means going to meet satan who will do what god failed to do, let alone delegating this task to his people the judges and who fail to punish ppl...

then wouldnt that make satan>god cause he is doing what most of you want to do right? its not like his hosting sausage sizzle down there

[xmas1997]

god is a pussy

ppl love to say if you do evil deeds u go straight to and get punish

so going to means going to meet satan who will do what god failed to do, let alone delegating this task to his people the judges and who fail to punish ppl...

then wouldnt that make satan>god cause he is doing what most of you want to do right? its not like his hosting sausage sizzle down there

This sounds like blake reasoning.

[Blake]

This sounds like blake reasoning.

it sounds like gibberish.

you're too much of a simpleton to understand basic reasoning and logic.

[IrisHockey]

Zionist Jews still trying to undermine Christianity through means of the media and art.

[IrisHockey]

[xmas1997]

[RandomGuy]

Okay first, you used the word "won't" for whatever reasons make you happy.
I used the "can't" and said why as simply as possible.
So yes, as I stated my opinion, it was a rational assertion.
Second, I was not, nor ever have, tried to convince you of anything, including God.
Where you got that idea in the first place escapes me.
What you believe, and what you want to believe, is entirely your business, not mine.
Are we clear now?

I used "won't" because you simply refused to try and define this thing you say exists.

Defining something as "undefinable" is a paradox, and inherently irrational.

If it exists, it can be defined and known.