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    Idk, I see Gasol as the back up plan if Diaw leaves since they can then sign him with cap space at, iirc, an amount exceeding the MLE offer. Gasol would like the higher offer from a serious contender, and he may be more enticed to come off the bench as the 3rd big as opposed to the 4th with Diaw on the roster. It's an interesting game of chicken involving Diaw, Spurs, and Gasol.

    In this scenario I believe spurs are out of the MLE/Biannual exception game, so you have to think Bonner gets resigned to vet minimum/BIA Larry Bird rights. Only scenario MLE would still be in play would be a sign and trade involving Diaw/Gasol, right?

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    Why? They have his bird rights and can pay him what they want. And if you think the Lakers won't pay the tax...you're crazy.
    They'll have to renounce his rights in order to sign Melo to a max contract. They may have an unlimited pile of cash, but they're constrained by the CBA on how much they can actually spend.

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    They'll have to renounce his rights in order to sign Melo to a max contract. They may have an unlimited pile of cash, but they're constrained by the CBA on how much they can actually spend.
    Yeah, he made like $19M last year. His cap hold is probably north of $30M.

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    They'll have to renounce his rights in order to sign Melo to a max contract. They may have an unlimited pile of cash, but they're constrained by the CBA on how much they can actually spend.
    So sign him first. Then the contract goes away and just reverts to what his actual contract is.

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    So sign him first. Then the contract goes away and just reverts to what his actual contract is.
    Then he'll have to take the huge pay cut mentioned above in order to leave enough room for a max contract for Melo.

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    Then he'll have to take the huge pay cut mentioned above in order to leave enough room for a max contract for Melo.
    The Lakers could still pay him more than the MLE that most other teams mentioned are limited to, right (especially if they find someone to take Nash's contract)?

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    Yeah, he made like $19M last year. His cap hold is probably north of $30M.
    According to ShamSports, it's $20,250,143.

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    The Lakers could still pay him more than the MLE that most other teams mentioned are limited to, right (especially if they find someone to take Nash's contract)?
    Only if they can make Nash' contract disappear. Otherwise, they can offer slightly more than the MLE if they use the stretch provision to waive Nash. If Nash is on the roster, they will have less than an MLE-sized chunk of cap space left.

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    This doesn't comport with the CBA limitations discussed above.

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    This doesn't comport with the CBA limitations discussed above.
    It might if Gasol is willing to take a big pay cut.

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    This doesn't comport with the CBA limitations discussed above.
    Sure it does. The tweet from 1:42 says that there are sources that believe that Pau will stay if they get James or Melo. No mention of salary. The tweet from 1:44 says he could stay if they don't land Melo or James because, in that scenario, the Lakers would be able to offer the most money.

    What they can offer Pau is vastly different in a scenario where they sign a max FA compared to one where they don't.

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    Only if they can make Nash' contract disappear. Otherwise, they can offer slightly more than the MLE if they use the stretch provision to waive Nash. If Nash is on the roster, they will have less than an MLE-sized chunk of cap space left.
    Thanks for the clarification.

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    Sure it does. The tweet from 1:42 says that there are sources that believe that Pau will stay if they get James or Melo. No mention of salary. The tweet from 1:44 says he could stay if they don't land Melo or James because, in that scenario, the Lakers would be able to offer the most money.

    What they can offer Pau is vastly different in a scenario where they sign a max FA compared to one where they don't.
    Yup, you're right it could be done in a scenario where the lakers offer another max deal.

    In practice (assuming the team wants to avoid the tax consequences) whats the ballpark amount of what the lakers would be able to offer Pau if they keep Nash and sign Melo to a max deal?

    I suppose I'm curious about the tweet's claim that Pau is emerging as a key piece in the pitch to Melo given the team existing limitations.

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    Yup, you're right it could be done in a scenario where the lakers offer another max deal.

    In practice (assuming the team wants to avoid the tax consequences) whats the ballpark amount of what the lakers would be able to offer Pau if they keep Nash and sign Melo to a max deal?

    I suppose I'm curious about the tweet's claim that Pau is emerging as a key piece in the pitch to Melo given the team existing limitations.
    Less than the MLE.

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    Woj:

    With Diaw's return set, the Spurs will continue their pursuit of free agent Pau Gasol with an offer of their midlevel exception, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources...195943153.html

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    I'd rather throw the MLE money at Mike Miller tbh. He's a more realistic target that fits a greater need.

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    We would be so damn STACKED with IQ (both bball and general) if this happened. Loaded.

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    He'll probably get $9-$11 million or so in Chicago when Melo re-signs in NYC.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs were the frontrunner should he choose to take MLE. Still I'd stack the odds heavily against it.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs were the frontrunner should he choose to take MLE. Still I'd stack the odds heavily against it.
    I'd have to go with Miami as the strong favorite if he takes MLE. He'd be the starting center there and would make them way better than last year's team.

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    If Spurs manage the coup of getting Pau Gasol for the MLE (highly unlikely!), it could mean the end of the line for Bonner or/and possibly Ayres/Baynes?

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    spurs could and would still sign boomer

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    If Spurs manage the coup of getting Pau Gasol for the MLE (highly unlikely!), it could mean the end of the line for Bonner or/and possibly Ayres/Baynes?
    If Gasol somehow someway comes here, I would keep Bonner and trade away Ayers. Even if the price is to give away, not receive, a 2nd rd pick.

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    My top gets now are gasol or miller.

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