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    Josh ing McRoberts?

    Way to put the league on notice, Miami.

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    Josh ing McRoberts?

    Way to put the league on notice, Miami.
    he dunked on birdman

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    If miami use MLE to sign Mc Robberts and BAE to sign Granger, it means they can't use cap space to sign a FA anymore.
    All they can do now is just re-sign their own FA with bird exception.
    So if Bosh go to houston and/or Lebron to Cleveland, they can't go after Melo/Gasol/Ariza or any other major FA.

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    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234160/Chris-Bosh-Receives-Four-Year-$80M+-Max-Offer-From-Rockets

    Bosh for the Max... but they have to unload Jeremy Lin.

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    If miami use MLE to sign Mc Robberts and BAE to sign Granger, it means they can't use cap space to sign a FA anymore.
    All they can do now is just re-sign their own FA with bird exception.
    So if Bosh go to houston and/or Lebron to Cleveland, they can't go after Melo/Gasol/Ariza or any other major FA.
    Is this the end of the Heat as we know it?

    They could still do a sign-and-trade but with who?

    This could end up to be a real disaster for the Heat. Now with the max deal for Bosh it's going to be problematic.

    Oh the Drama.... the off season is going to decide if the Heat are contenders or not!

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    If McRoberts and Granger are signing because they were told James will be back, then do they still have to sign if James goes somewhere else?

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    If McRoberts and Granger are signing because they were told James will be back, then do they still have to sign if James goes somewhere else?
    Well, they have only formally committed. They have not signed their contracts. You can't do that until 7/10. So, if Lebron announces he's leaving before then, they could easily change their minds (both parties). It would be tough because this may cause other teams that were looking at him to move on and use their money elsewhere, but nothing has formally been done.

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    Oh the Drama.... the off season is going to decide if the Heat are contenders or not!

    Who could have seen that coming?

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    Re: McRoberts: I like the signing a lot for MIA. If we are to believe the consistent reports regarding Lebron's desire for a max deal, then cap space was always a bit of long shot considering it would mean Bosh/Wade would have to take sizeable pay cuts or walk completely.

    Assuming the goal was to keep Lebron with Wa*e & Bosh, then the MLE was always the realistic avenue to improve. For the MLE, Josh is about as good as you could hope for. While I agree that MIA needed defense, it's their offense that seemed unreliable. They had to play a lot of Bosh as the "stretch 4" or Bosh at the 5 and Bron at the 4. Their other big men (Birdman / Haslem..) were not any good offensively and not that great defensively tbh..You saw the success their offense had with Rashard Lewis at the 4 and this allows them to be a bit more athletic, bigger and better offensively as JM is a superior play maker and overall player to Rashard Lewis.

    For what they had available, this gives the Heat a much more versatile lineup option depending on what they want to do offensively.

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    Re: McRoberts: I like the signing a lot for MIA. If we are to believe the consistent reports regarding Lebron's desire for a max deal, then cap space was always a bit of long shot considering it would mean Bosh/Wade would have to take sizeable pay cuts or walk completely.

    Assuming the goal was to keep Lebron with Wa*e & Bosh, then the MLE was always the realistic avenue to improve. For the MLE, Josh is about as good as you could hope for. While I agree that MIA needed defense, it's their offense that seemed unreliable. They had to play a lot of Bosh as the "stretch 4" or Bosh at the 5 and Bron at the 4. Their other big men (Birdman / Haslem..) were not any good offensively and not that great defensively tbh..You saw the success their offense had with Rashard Lewis at the 4 and this allows them to be a bit more athletic, bigger and better offensively as JM is a superior play maker and overall player to Rashard Lewis.

    For what they had available, this gives the Heat a much more versatile lineup option depending on what they want to do offensively.
    I was going to say that agreeing to terms with McRoberts screws MIA even if Bosh leaves probably. If Bosh leaves, McRoberts no longer gets the "MLE". He would get the cap space. If that is the case, 2 things happen:

    1) They renege on McRoberts allowing them to offer a max deal to Bron/Melo and Wade takes his normal paycut he was going to take.

    2) They keep McRoberts, but now have 5M less in cap space and how does that impact their ability to sign Melo?

    If Bosh doesn't leave (or Wade), then their entire means of improving is gone with McRoberts/Granger signing for the MLE/BAE

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    The Spurs were after McRoberts too. I don't suppose you think RC Buford AND Pat Riley are no good at evaluating nba talent, do you?
    Which team needs some D?

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    I was going to say that agreeing to terms with McRoberts screws MIA even if Bosh leaves probably. If Bosh leaves, McRoberts no longer gets the "MLE". He would get the cap space. If that is the case, 2 things happen:

    1) They renege on McRoberts allowing them to offer a max deal to Bron/Melo and Wade takes his normal paycut he was going to take.

    2) They keep McRoberts, but now have 5M less in cap space and how does that impact their ability to sign Melo?

    If Bosh doesn't leave (or Wade), then their entire means of improving is gone with McRoberts/Granger signing for the MLE/BAE
    That's about it. Hard to see a road to significant improvement.

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    Not a huge deal tbh. He's a slight improvement over Birdman IMO. They still need offensive production, and he's not the answer. I haven't been too impressed with what I've seen from Napier in the Summer League either.

    Statistically not even close to the bird in playoffs or reg season. He went to Miaimi - oh well.

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    Statistically not even close to the bird in playoffs or reg season. He went to Miaimi - oh well.
    He averages a couple points and assists more, and a couple of rebounds less per the regular season stats. Not even sure what Birdman did in the playoffs, he sure as didn't do a ing thing in the Finals.

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    Still does nothing for there atrocious backcourt

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    Still does nothing for there atrocious backcourt
    *Ahem* their not there.

    Anyways, Napier is a big improvement over the corpses of Chalmers and Cole.

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    He very well may be, but at this point it seems like a stretch to call Napier a big upgrade after what Chalmers has proven overall. Chalmers isn't great, but has had plenty of good moments.

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    Interesting Heat signings. Usually players come begging to join the Heat. This time it appears that the Heat needed to entice these role players to sign.

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    Granger and McRoberts
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    I think thats probably whats going to happen. Lebron with the max and Wade at 4y, 60 million, $15 million this season plus. I dont think McBob and Granger are actually for the MLE and BAE. but that is just its being referred to because they are going to use their cap space. The money the same though. They are probably going after Deng or Ariza along with Williams and maybe even Nelson.
    Why is Wade worth 60M? I'd offer him 10M max, and that it's it.

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    Boris Diaw is a game changer, and so is McRoberts. It doesn't make sense to say one is and the other isn't-- they're too similar.
    There are big guys who can pass, but very few do it well ON THE MOVE. Diaw is like a guard with the ball, and JoMcRo is a homeless man's version of Diaw.

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    Why is Wade worth 60M? I'd offer him 10M max, and that it's it.
    What's crazy is that 10M is even pushing it, imo.

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    The problem with the Heat isn't that players don't want to play there, it's that the remaining "big-name" free agents are severely over-valuing themselves, tbh..

    Washed-up players like Luol Deng actually think they're worth big money, and sadly, some other team will probably give it to them..a soft, overrated Gordan Hayward is going to receive the max, smh..

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    Granger and McRoberts
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    The problem with the Heat isn't that players don't want to play there, it's that the remaining "big-name" free agents are severely over-valuing themselves, tbh..

    Washed-up players like Luol Deng actually think they're worth big money, and sadly, some other team will probably give it to them..a soft, overrated Gordan Hayward is going to receive the max, smh..
    Houston offering Bosh a Max deal is beyond comprehension.. Do any of these owners or GM's watch basketball? You are talking about offering a guy max money that did nothing whatsoever in a 5 game beat down that was the 2014 NBA finals.. A guy that has proven to be soft and mediocre in big spots.. A guy that is not dominant in any facet of the game anywhere.. Where is the logic for this max money other than stupid ownership?

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