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golden rice is one example, soybeans another:
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...rouble-gmo-soy
Absolutely not.
And it is highly possible that the people it is designed for might not eat it because of its color.
So of course this means give up on it and all GM is bad.
This is why I had you read about this crop in the first place.
You acted like it was some poison. So you totally give up on what could be a very food...
Excellent.
So you give up on trying to make rice more nutritious? Is that what you are saying?
golden rice is one example, soybeans another:
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...rouble-gmo-soy
All for-profit GM is BAD, because the corporate motivation is eternal exorbitant profits from enslaving the world's agriculture to patented seeds and patented x-cides. GM corps, and BigAg, don't GAF about nutrition or human/environmental health.
Here's another current problem with corporate agriculture destroying the diversity of world foods
http://www.economist.com/blogs/feast...014/02/bananas
btw, US yellow/white monocluture corn is really ty nutrition compared to the wide variety of corn the Native Americans were eating when the Europeans came to up the Americas.
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http://grist.org/food/crop-flops-gmo...he-wrong-path/Before I respond to Nathanael Johnson’s assertion that the “stakes are so low” in the debate over GMOs, I want to address a smaller point. “The debate isn’t about actual genetically modified organisms — if it was we’d be debating the individual plants, not GMOs as a whole,” Johnson writes.
That’s a good place to start: actually existing GMOs. What traits are on the market today, in use by farmers? First, I’ll note that there’s no shortage of land devoted to GMOs. Since the novel seeds hit the market in 1996, global GM crop acreage has expanded dramatically, reaching 420 million acres by 2012, reports the International Service for the Acquisition of Agri-biotech Applications. That’s a combined landmass more than four times larger than California. The pro-GMO ISAAA hails this expansion as “fastest adopted crop technology in the history of modern agriculture.”
Yet, for all of that land devoted to GMOs, there are just two traits in wide use: herbicide resistance and pest resistance (Bt). Note, in the below ISAAA chart, the “<1″ at the bottom. That represents the percentage of all global GMO acres planted in crops that aren’t either herbicide- or pesticide-tolerant: that is to say, less than 1 percent.
Now, one might ask: But isn’t the industry on the brink of rolling out wonder crops — new varieties that are more nutritious, or use water more efficiently, or need less fertilizer? One way to tell is to peek into the U.S. Department of Agriculture pipeline of new GMO products being considered for deregulation. Here we can expect to find the stuff the industry has tested and found rugged and ready for field conditions. What’s in there? Thirteen products — nine of which involve herbicide tolerance or insect resistance. Of those nine, five are engineered to resist two herbicides — a dispiriting trend I’ll explore more below. The others are an apple variety engineered not to brown, a eucalyptus designed to resist freezing, a potato charged with bruising less easily, and an alfalfa type meant to contain less lignin.
Something tells me that none of these novelty items are destined to crack ISAAA’s <1 percent box.
It’s true that rice engineered to deliver beta-carotene is due out in 2016 in the Philippines, and that citrus trees engineered to resist a ruinous pathogen have shown promise. Then there are those virus-resistant GM papayas in Hawaii — though it should be noted that the state’s entire papaya production covers about 2,000 acres, the size of a moderately sized corn farm in Iowa. But until the “golden rice” and the novel oranges prove effective, durable, and acceptable to a large swath of growers, we live in a world in which upwards of 99 percent of GMOs are engineered for the two traits mentioned above.
From the above...
we live in a world in which upwards of 99 percent of GMOs are engineered for the two traits mentioned above
Again misuse of numbers.
If plants like Golden rice work, it will affect far more people than counting what % of GMOs are engineered for certain traits. Statistical misuse yet again.
Bottom line and I will state it AGAIN: The TECHNIQUE should not be thrown out, as Boots has suggested numerous times, because of what big companies sell to US farmers. Now Boots has decided to hone his argument. We don't relegate selective breeding to evil because many people use it to breed animals that will suffer all sorts of developmental abnormalities that will lead to suffering. Boots needs to start a campaign against dog breeders.
Boots you still have no idea why I had you read about Golden Rice.
These Boots Are Made For Walkin
Golden Rice is profit making project, patented, resulting in a monoculture totally susceptible to single attacker. Getting BIOAVAILABLE Vit A into poor kids is much cheaper and more reliable with supplements
pure speculation. you're counting your chickens before the eggs have even been laid.If plants like Golden rice work, it will affect far more people than counting what % of GMOs are engineered for certain traits. Statistical misuse yet again.
Of course it is.
So you are not excited about the possibilities.
I am. But much more work needs to be done.
And it does not change the use of those stats as biotech companies have a much larger play in creating varieties for market. Versus researchers who look into more fundamental questions in gene transfer.
Are you referring to sterile eggs?
They eat rice. EVERYDAY.
So what's the problem then boots. Where are all the supplement helicopters dropping boxes of pills?
the problem is replacing natural rice eaten for 1000s of years, has there been a Vit A deficiency for 1000s of years?, with synthetic rice of unknown EFFECTIVE value of increasing Vit A in children eating it.
Monsanto CREATES problems, unending, LICENSED problems (rentier agriculture) that maintain an infinite profit stream, and then creates even more problems, creating even more profits
About this Pe ion
Monsanto aggressively sells its practice of fooling around with nature - or genetic modification - as a benefit to farmers and consumers. But in reality, growing Monsanto’s GMO (Roundup-ready) herbicide-resistant crops causes huge weed problems, like the pigweed problem in Texas now.
Roundup-resistant cotton in Texas has caused “an epidemic” of pigweed. Calling this an “emergency,” the Texas Department of Agriculture is now asking the EPA for a special permit to use hundreds of thousands of pounds of the very hazardous herbicide propazine to kill these herbicide -resistant weeds that Roundup overuse created in the first place.
This solution Texas seeks to solve its weed problems su iously benefits Albaugh, Inc, coming and going, because Albaugh makes propazine AND Roundup.
According to a 2007 Forbes report, Albaugh made a secret deal with Monsanto years ago when Roundup’s glyphosate went off patent, and that deal made Albaugh “the second-biggest glyphosate producer in the U.S.”
Even though pigweed is a serious problem for cotton farmers, Propazine is not the solution, says the Center for Food Safety, adding that what’s really needed are practices that “don’t create resistant weeds in the first place.”
The use of propazine not only poses a serious threat to human health, but also a serious conflict of interests that has not been widely exposed. EPA is taking comments on this issue now.
Insist the EPA not allow Texas to spray this highly toxic herbicide, propazine!
http://www.thepe ionsite.com/678/705/536/epa-dont-let-texas-spray-highly-toxic-herbicide-propazine/?z00m=21261657&redirectID=1404717581
http://online.wsj.com/articles/texas-tries-last-ditch-attack-on-super-weed-1403221544
Unknown means not known.
Are you saying this rice does not have any effect? This is why you try it out, not throw it out, because of your anti corporate inclinations.
has anybody shown in even small human trials that eating a unusual avg daily qty of your golden crap increases Vit A in the body?
Multiple times. And in multiple countries.
Golden crap...
You are truly a fool. I have not seen any studies. So this obviously means it will not work?
Idiot...
Boots is fine as he is able to go to the grocery and pick his food. the malnourished. A true bleeding heart.
*non-scientific poll
so Golden rice is just a belief, like Flying Spaghetti Monster belief
" the malnourished" you said that, I didn't
Much more important for the world's kids than Vit A is clean water and toilets.
These studies take time boots. You don't just perform them over 1 year.
" the malnourished" you said that, I didn't
Much more important for the world's kids than Vit A is clean water and toilets.
You are so ed up. Because we have not fed children golden rice over 8 years without any other source of vitamin A you assume it won't work? You want your kid in that study?
Idiot...
WTF does sanitation have to do with the subject at hand?
" the malnourished" you said that, I didn't
Much more important for the world's kids than Vit A is clean water and toilets.
So since sanitation is a huge problem golden rice?
Your logic is impeccable.
Your ignorance is unbecoming, but understandable.
It always is.
death, disease from sanitation (esp bad water, and no sewers) VASTLY dominates malnutrition, eg
Poor Sanitation in India May Afflict Well-Fed Children With Malnutrition
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/asia/poor-sanitation-in-india-may-afflict-well-fed-children-with-malnutrition.html?_r=0
And ALL the above is not as bad as POVERTY as the root, dominating cause of death and disease in poor countries.
Poor sanitation is made very much worse by malnourished immune systems numb nuts...
So if you have $100B, $1T, cash to blow on poor countries, what would be your priorities? golden rice?
You set up a false equivalence, it's not one or the other.
But nice try.
Do you feel comfortable being so disingenuous?
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