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    tangina ka, though FireMicoHalili's Avatar
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    So you guys are saying there are no similarities at all between Diaw & McRoberts?

    McRoberts:
    30 mpg, 8.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.3 apg, 36% 3ptFG%, 0.6 bpg, 0.7 spg

    Diaw:
    25 mpg, 9.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.8 apg, 40% 3ptFG%, 0.4 bpg, 0.6 spg


    You seriously see no similarities between these two players?
    You're arguing from a statistical standpoint, they're arguing from their personal knowledge of both players' style of play. Easy to see this is going nowhere. Vision test says yes, players are identical with regard to stats. If they say his game remotely resembles Boris' because they've watched both players for a considerate amount of time, no one wins.

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    So you guys are saying there are no similarities at all between Diaw & McRoberts?

    McRoberts:
    30 mpg, 8.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.3 apg, 36% 3ptFG%, 0.6 bpg, 0.7 spg

    Diaw:
    25 mpg, 9.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.8 apg, 40% 3ptFG%, 0.4 bpg, 0.6 spg


    You seriously see no similarities between these two players?

    Its te pretty close comparison, can't deny that.

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    Bosh is a perfect fit in Houston and his numbers have been suppressed in Miami. A very good team defender and has added a consistent 3pt shot to his already elite mid range jump shot.
    BTW this right here says one thing to me.. Bosh is being brought in to play a role.. To me Max money is for dominant players that can play anywhere and are expected to carry the load. Not guys being brought in because they fit the system and can play a specific role.. 20 million dollar a year role player. No thanks..

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    Timmy has a better chance of finishing next season healthy and energized than Wade tbh

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    Timmy has a better chance of finishing next season healthy and energized than Wade tbh


    Yet D-Wade may end up making more $$$

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    Why are the Rockets so confident they can unload Lin to get Bosh? He's got a horrible deal.

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    Why are the Rockets so confident they can unload Lin to get Bosh? He's got a horrible deal.
    The 76ers have a very low payroll and a roster full of rookie scale contracts, so they need to pick up some players to get to the league minimum. Lin's only got 1 year left on his contract, so it works for them without hampering them in the future.

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    Bosh,Howard and jones would be a nice trio but noway bosh should get max

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    The 76ers have a very low payroll and a roster full of rookie scale contracts, so they need to pick up some players to get to the league minimum. Lin's only got 1 year left on his contract, so it works for them without hampering them in the future.
    they can also probably get a pick out of it

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    Good signing for the Heat. I really like McRoberts, he should thrive there with Wade and a bunch of scrubs (I feel LBJ and Bosh will leave...)

    Are people actually arguing about McBob's deal vs Diaw's deal and going to the stats to do so? Really?

    C'mon people - Diaw's contract is fine, and so is McBob's. And no, we wouldn't have been better off saving $2mil that is meaningless in the sense of our cap situation to replace Diaw with a guy who doesn't have Diaw's versatility, nor his scoring touch, nor his chemistry with the team and corporate knowledge. I mean, really?

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    So you guys are saying there are no similarities at all between Diaw & McRoberts?

    McRoberts:
    30 mpg, 8.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.3 apg, 36% 3ptFG%, 0.6 bpg, 0.7 spg

    Diaw:
    25 mpg, 9.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.8 apg, 40% 3ptFG%, 0.4 bpg, 0.6 spg


    You seriously see no similarities between these two players?
    So you are saying it's the same putting up those kinds of numbers on an NBA Championship team as it is putting up those numbers on the 7th seed in the East?

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    So you are saying it's the same putting up those kinds of numbers on an NBA Championship team as it is putting up those numbers on the 7th seed in the East?
    Nope. I've said again and again that there are similarities between the two, and that they are not "the same," and that I don't think McRoberts is better than Diaw. I don't know why you find this so difficult to understand. Are you saying the two players share no similarities whatsoever?

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    can't believe i'm reading this guy compares to Boris. lol

    If it's about stats then another reason why stats can be misleading.

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    they can also probably get a pick out of it
    Capela/Lin/cash for a top 58 protected 2nd rounder. Hinkie used to work for Morey in H-town, so he'll help.

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    So you are saying it's the same putting up those kinds of numbers on an NBA Championship team as it is putting up those numbers on the 7th seed in the East?
    There's no trouble regarding Diaw's game is different from McRoberts' but the logic here is terrible. Any stat from a team out in the East - even an EC playoff team at that - has to be disregarded simply because the subject player is playing out east. Every player on a championship automatically makes him the 'better' player. Just because Danny Green made it all the way to the Finals does not automatically make him a better marksman than Kyle Korver, but because of your logic, that appears to be the case.

    Another thing: quit putting words on other people's mouths. Anyone could easily just have said that "So are you saying all the players in a championship team are better than all Eastern Conference players?" Or "So are you saying the players on a championship team are incomparable to players from the Eastern Conference?". Though if twisting words is your style that kind of renders this discussion inutile.

    So easy for people to applaud the Spurs on re-signing Diaw yet whiff on the fact the Heat signed a passing big in McRoberts for less.
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    yeah, if this is what the heat thinks seals the deal that's pretty sad. it will take much more than a role player and a PG from UCONN.
    That PG from Uconn can be very good and very out of control which usually doesn't translate to the next level, but with some work and effort Bazzy can be a beast. Will it help the Heat? that remains to be seen

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    Diaw is better hands down and does it when it counts. Spurs don't win no. 5 with out the big boy

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    Nope. I've said again and again that there are similarities between the two, and that they are not "the same,"
    Boris Diaw is a game changer, and so is McRoberts. It doesn't make sense to say one is and the other isn't-- they're too similar.
    You started off saying they were and then backpedaled into "there are similarities."

    McRoberts was a good player on a bad team. He's a good passer and shooter. That's where any sort of similarities end. That doesn't make him a point forward like Diaw. He won't defend like Diaw and won't rebound like Diaw(Diaw gets on the glass when it matters, go look at his numbers from the Finals) on a Miami team that already sucks on the boards. He's not going to be any sort of game changer for them. His lack of defense and his lack of rebounding make him a wash as a player...basically a lateral move tbh.

    As exstatic pointed out, he's basically a homeless man's version of Diaw at best.

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    mcbob is more of a hustle player and rebounder and dunker than a passer shooter, he resembles kevin love more than boris diaw tbh. I don't buy his shooting improvements though.

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    They'd be stupid. Wade was extensively rested, and played a lopsided EC heavy schedule. When it really mattered, and he couldn't rest, he broke down. The above just shows how empty stats can be. If you sign him, you HAVE to know that this year was not an aberration, and that it will only get worse. The starting point is probably a 60 regular season game limit, and a progressive degradation as the comp gets better deep in the playoffs.


    Wades scoring and FG% actually improved from the first round to the 2nd round and peaked in the ECF against Indy who was the best defensive team n the NBA.His ECF numbers were identical to the regular season numbers i posted above. I'm not claiming that he is going to be able to play more than 65 games a year but his numbers weren't an aberration.

    He didn't play well in the finals,sure, but that doesn't drop his worth below $10 million.

    in 74 total games he averaged 18.7 ppg and 52% FG that's still pretty damn good and with continued maintenance and playing as a 3rd option, he can still be very good for the next couple of seasons.

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    BTW this right here says one thing to me.. Bosh is being brought in to play a role.. To me Max money is for dominant players that can play anywhere and are expected to carry the load. Not guys being brought in because they fit the system and can play a specific role.. 20 million dollar a year role player. No thanks..
    They know they probably aren't getting Melo. Persuading Bosh away is the next best thing, if it takes that much then thats what it takes. As constructed they are easily the 4th best team in the west with maybe a healthy Memphis and GSW in the conversation as welll.

    Nabbing Bosh makes them a top 3 team in the NBA imo behind us and OKC

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