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    , Splitter showed development THIS YEAR. I'm excited to see Richards.

    Looking forward to seeing Thomas and Daye for long stretches too.

    And Slomo of course.

    But Bryce Cotton is gonna wreck . I can feel it in my bones.
    I'm not very optimistic when it comes to Daye, but I want to see if Thomas has made progress. I really have no idea what Bryce Cotton is all about, but people here seem to think highly of him. I personally think our PG situation is fine with TP/Mills/CoJo, but with Mills being out for some time, we probably do need a 3rd pg

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    Meh not that excited and certainly not about a stiff like Richards... Im actually surprised that they think he's worth the plane tickets at this point...

    Main thing for me is gonna be if they let Anderson run the point, cause if they dont let him do it in summer league no way they let him do it in the NBA... I hope they give it a shot.

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    I'm not very optimistic when it comes to Daye, but I want to see if Thomas has made progress. I really have no idea what Bryce Cotton is all about, but people here seem to think highly of him. I personally think our PG situation is fine with TP/Mills/CoJo, but with Mills being out for some time, we probably do need a 3rd pg
    I've not seen him in an NBA game obviously, but I think Cotton has a better handle than CoJo. The test will be whether Cotton is big enough, strong enough for the NBA.

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    Meh not that excited and certainly not about a stiff like Richards... Im actually surprised that they think he's worth the plane tickets at this point...

    Main thing for me is gonna be if they let Anderson run the point, cause if they dont let him do it in summer league no way they let him do it in the NBA... I hope they give it a shot.
    i doubt he runs the point to open sets, but he can be somewhat like orlando's turkoglu on offense, even though they had nelson/alston running the point

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    , Splitter showed development THIS YEAR. I'm excited to see Richards.

    Looking forward to seeing Thomas and Daye for long stretches too.

    And Slomo of course.

    But Bryce Cotton is gonna wreck . I can feel it in my bones.
    I've pretty much given up on Richards. I liked it when he was drafted, however he hasn't shown any great progress in his game.

    Daye is going to be that Robert Horry/Lamar Odom type player for the Spurs. He's got the length and the shooting touch.

    I got no more faith in Thomas. He hasn't done well abroad.

    Slomo is interesting, he's got potential to bulk up even more. Heard he was from a family of Football players, so he's comfortable with contact. He's going to learn a lot from Boris Diaw. Slomo could be a nightmare to cover, he's a Boris Diaw with some ridiculous length.

    Bryce Cotton.... well this guy has outrageous athleticism. Plus he's had 4 years in college to work on his skills. I am pretty sure this guy is going to impress. The Spurs will sign him not because they need him, but because he's ridiculously explosive.

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    I think Ryan Richards will probably have a good summer league by summer league standards and right around the time when the Spurs don't have a need for him. I hope that Cotton is relentless on defense and can knock down the 3 with consistency. This is Dayes chance to showcase more than just shooting touch with minutes and I don't know if he can, his feet looked like they were in cement last year.

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    Nobel Boungou-Colo could be a sleeper. 6'8" athletic French player.

    Unfortunate that there are too many good players in this team that its difficult to shine.

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    Nobel Boungou-Colo could be a sleeper. 6'8" athletic French player.

    Unfortunate that there are too many good players in this team that its difficult to shine.
    At 26 he's anything but a sleeper, he's been off the radar for sometime. Athletic as but I don't think he's ever sniffed the league.

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    Nobel Boungou-Colo could be a sleeper. 6'8" athletic French player.

    Unfortunate that there are too many good players in this team that its difficult to shine.
    Yeah too many forwards especially... Doesn't seem like he will get much of a shot...

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    I have a feeling Slo-Mo is the real deal and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Cotton doesn't disappoint. His game kind of reminds me of Isaiah Thomas.

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    I have a feeling Slo-Mo is the real deal and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Cotton doesn't disappoint. His game kind of reminds me of Isaiah Thomas.
    Don't think Slo-Mo will immediately impress, after all, 29 other teams passed on him. I do expect though by the 2nd year that he would be able to contribute.

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    crazy that he's still 23.

    while people call him an unmotivated bum, not everybody would be willing to play in obscure countries with the hopes of one day playing to the US. Splitter and Manu were both around 26 when they joined the Spurs, so i wouldn't close the book on Richards yet. but its still disappointing, we were hoping he'd be able to contribute during the Duncan era
    I wouldn't give Richards credit for taking easy money without having to work very hard. There is something very strange about a player who has the necessary physical attributes but chooses to continually slum it up in arguably progressively worse leagues. Add that to his abandoning the British national team where he would have had pressure on him .. Strange.

    As a comparison: both he and viktor Sanikidze had to spend time in the domestic Georgian league, which is pretty bad. Sanikidze because he had a run of injuries and the only place he could play was his home country, Richards just went there to go there, unless he had burned too many bridges with real leagues.

    But Sanikidze rebuilt his career, moving from Georgia to the Estonian league, then Italy, than another Italian league team iirc, then Spain, making a nice career for himself and being a very good player for that level. He made the most of a bad scenario.

    What did Richards do with that situation? Nothing. In and out of various joke leagues. Even his time in Greece didn't result in him being a standout like Sanikidze iirc.

    I don't have anything against Richards, and I hope for the same of the spurs he becomes a legit player. But his history doesn't give me much hope. I don't have any hope for Deshaun Thomas either, but that's because of his cement shoes. I don't have any hope for Denmon because I think he's too small and without true point skills. I never had hope for McClinton because he was a short, 25 year old no defense non point chucker who I was couldn't imagine making it in the NBA.

    But Richards ... I can't point to his body, though he did have shoulder issues. I can't point to his skills, because plenty of bigs in the NBA seem to have nice little careers without a lot of refined skills. I can only point to what's on the inside. For him, climbing the ladder of professional basketball should not have been this difficult considering his physical abilities and the fact that he was already in the acb system when drafted.

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    itd be cool if we win the tourney

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    Got it, thanks a lot!

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    Don't think Slo-Mo will immediately impress, after all, 29 other teams passed on him. I do expect though by the 2nd year that he would be able to contribute.
    30 teams passed on Ginobili, twice. 14 teams passed on Kawhi. 28ish passed on Parker. Don't give up on him as a rook, yet, CE! Draft order not always the best indicator, and RC & co are better than average at spotting NBA talent late in the draft. Friday will be fun.

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    I wouldn't give Richards credit for taking easy money without having to work very hard. There is something very strange about a player who has the necessary physical attributes but chooses to continually slum it up in arguably progressively worse leagues. Add that to his abandoning the British national team where he would have had pressure on him .. Strange.

    As a comparison: both he and viktor Sanikidze had to spend time in the domestic Georgian league, which is pretty bad. Sanikidze because he had a run of injuries and the only place he could play was his home country, Richards just went there to go there, unless he had burned too many bridges with real leagues.

    But Sanikidze rebuilt his career, moving from Georgia to the Estonian league, then Italy, than another Italian league team iirc, then Spain, making a nice career for himself and being a very good player for that level. He made the most of a bad scenario.

    What did Richards do with that situation? Nothing. In and out of various joke leagues. Even his time in Greece didn't result in him being a standout like Sanikidze iirc.

    I don't have anything against Richards, and I hope for the same of the spurs he becomes a legit player. But his history doesn't give me much hope. I don't have any hope for Deshaun Thomas either, but that's because of his cement shoes. I don't have any hope for Denmon because I think he's too small and without true point skills. I never had hope for McClinton because he was a short, 25 year old no defense non point chucker who I was couldn't imagine making it in the NBA.

    But Richards ... I can't point to his body, though he did have shoulder issues. I can't point to his skills, because plenty of bigs in the NBA seem to have nice little careers without a lot of refined skills. I can only point to what's on the inside. For him, climbing the ladder of professional basketball should not have been this difficult considering his physical abilities and the fact that he was already in the acb system when drafted.
    Objective with the goods.

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    I wouldn't give Richards credit for taking easy money without having to work very hard. There is something very strange about a player who has the necessary physical attributes but chooses to continually slum it up in arguably progressively worse leagues. Add that to his abandoning the British national team where he would have had pressure on him .. Strange.

    As a comparison: both he and viktor Sanikidze had to spend time in the domestic Georgian league, which is pretty bad. Sanikidze because he had a run of injuries and the only place he could play was his home country, Richards just went there to go there, unless he had burned too many bridges with real leagues.

    But Sanikidze rebuilt his career, moving from Georgia to the Estonian league, then Italy, than another Italian league team iirc, then Spain, making a nice career for himself and being a very good player for that level. He made the most of a bad scenario.

    What did Richards do with that situation? Nothing. In and out of various joke leagues. Even his time in Greece didn't result in him being a standout like Sanikidze iirc.

    I don't have anything against Richards, and I hope for the same of the spurs he becomes a legit player. But his history doesn't give me much hope. I don't have any hope for Deshaun Thomas either, but that's because of his cement shoes. I don't have any hope for Denmon because I think he's too small and without true point skills. I never had hope for McClinton because he was a short, 25 year old no defense non point chucker who I was couldn't imagine making it in the NBA.

    But Richards ... I can't point to his body, though he did have shoulder issues. I can't point to his skills, because plenty of bigs in the NBA seem to have nice little careers without a lot of refined skills. I can only point to what's on the inside. For him, climbing the ladder of professional basketball should not have been this difficult considering his physical abilities and the fact that he was already in the acb system when drafted.
    Excellent post.

    I agree, Richards seems to have the physical attributes to do well, however you are probably right, he's got some issues that prevents him from improving.

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    By the way, I'm really impressed with Noel so far. I don't know who's more stupid: Cleveland for picking Bennett over him when Noel was exactly what they needed, or New Orleans for trading him and Payton away for Jrue Holliday.

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    By the way, I'm really impressed with Noel so far. I don't know who's more stupid: Cleveland for picking Bennett over him when Noel was exactly what they needed, or New Orleans for trading him and Payton away for Jrue Holliday.
    Agree he's predictably clueless on offense but very active around the basket.

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    By the way, I'm really impressed with Noel so far. I don't know who's more stupid: Cleveland for picking Bennett over him when Noel was exactly what they needed, or New Orleans for trading him and Payton away for Jrue Holliday.
    After spending a year babysitting Bynum, Philly showed serious balls drafting Noel last year knowing they'd have to babysit. Now same story with Embiid. i was really excited when the Hornets drafted Noel because I thought he was a perfect player to start alongside Davis... then they did the Jrue thing

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    Agree he's predictably clueless on offense but very active around the basket.
    He has decent perimeter skills, which surprised the out of me. He's still doing too much, but that's fine for a player in his position. Next year, it should be fun to watch Sixers games occasionally.

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    After spending a year babysitting Bynum, Philly showed serious balls drafting Noel last year knowing they'd have to babysit. Now same story with Embiid. i was really excited when the Hornets drafted Noel because I thought he was a perfect player to start alongside Davis... then they did the Jrue thing
    Yeah. It's a shame that they keep punting. I can understand gambling on Embiid, but to draft him and Saric in the same draft just screams of tanking. They should have picked someone else at 10/12.

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    Yeah. It's a shame that they keep punting. I can understand gambling on Embiid, but to draft him and Saric in the same draft just screams of tanking. They should have picked someone else at 10/12.
    yeah i didnt understand the Saric pick... there were so many good players at that point in the draft, and its not like they needed to draft and stash to save cap room or anything like houston did

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    yeah i didnt understand the Saric pick... there were so many good players at that point in the draft, and its not like they needed to draft and stash to save cap room or anything like houston did
    The thing is, he's not that good. I think he'd be a fine player, but he's a diva and isn't coming over for three years, if at all. It's like Philly seriously wanted to make sure they weren't going to sneak into the playoffs.

    The only saving grace is that they already have a good coach and seem committed to him. So these years aren't really being wasted.

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    Brett has a plan to make the 76ers good in about 3 more seasons, enough to challenge in the East, he's carefully putting pieces together that will either compliment each other or good trade bait for other picks or vets. I see them winning 30 or 40 this season and barely missing the playoffs in the East.

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