And You Think Splitters Contract is Bad

[RD2191]

I like Splitter. It is just he is not a starting caliber center statistically speaking. He did redeem himself this post-season partially from his performance last year but for the money he is getting is just too much. I just wish he would learn how to dunk a ball occasionally when he is two feet from the basket rather than trying to lay it up. The one facet of Splitter's game that I really dislike is his lack of aggressiveness when he is put in post up situations. If he developed just a little bit of a mean streak, he could really put up some numbers.

What a terrible take. And that's coming from me. Splitter was signed and is a starter because of his defense. Anything he gives on offense is just a bonus. Come on son.

[tholdren]

Why does Blair going to town on Duncan have anything to do with Splitter's contract

I think you are confused on the year I cited. I cited 2 playoffs ago. The last year for Blair, and Splitter's previous contracted year (the one that lead to his 10mil a year salary). Even though Blair beat the living out of Splitter's stats, which you cited are indicative to his salary of 10 million a year, I am posing that your use of stats is not the whole story. If it were, by your own argument, Blair should be getting MILLIONS more than Splitter, since Blair TRIPLED his PER and more than DOUBLED his win share during their previous contracts and the playoffs.

THIS YEAR - DJB STILL HAS BETTER STATS- even though you claim that Splitter's stats warrant 10 million dollars
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Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	MP	PER	TS%	eFG%	FTr	3PAr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg	OWS	DWS	WS	WS/48
2009-10	20	SAS	NBA	PF	10	91	24.0	.514	.500	.281	.000	23.9	25.1	24.5	9.4	2.9	3.5	5.3	19.5	122	101	0.3	0.2	0.4	.226
2010-11	21	SAS	NBA	PF	4	50	9.6	.366	.333	.238	.000	20.4	9.5	15.1	7.3	0.0	1.4	7.9	23.7	91	110	0.0	0.0	0.0	-0.021
2011-12	22	SAS	NBA	PF	10	76	22.9	.624	.630	.222	.000	11.2	23.6	17.6	4.6	2.0	1.0	3.3	18.8	128	100	0.3	0.1	0.4	.244
2012-13	23	SAS	NBA	PF	12	76	31.2	.619	.618	.265	.000	9.4	26.3	18.1	18.7	3.5	1.0	2.6	24.2	131	94	0.4	0.2	0.6	.348
2013-14	24	DAL	NBA	PF	6	81	28.8	.611	.593	.481	.000	18.7	36.0	26.6	2.0	7.7	0.0	13.3	21.0	120	95	0.2	0.2	0.4	.255
Career			NBA		42	374	24.4	.558	.546	.298	.000	16.8	25.3	21.0	8.4	3.5	1.5	6.5	21.2	120	99	1.1	0.7	1.8	.228
4 seasons		SAS	NBA		36	293	23.1	.544	.535	.254	.000	16.2	22.4	19.4	10.2	2.3	1.9	4.5	21.2	120	101	0.9	0.5	1.3	.220
1 season		DAL	NBA		6	81	28.8	.611	.593	.481	.000	18.7	36.0	26.6	2.0	7.7	0.0	13.3	21.0	120	95	0.2	0.2	0.4	.255

Over their ENTIRE CAREER Blair has the better Advanced Playoff stats. Blair is a dumber version of Manu. He takes risks defensively. When he hits they pay-off and can be momentum changing. When he misses, he just looks fat and slow. IMO He didnt get the time and effort that Splitter got, and mostly, due to his own terrible at ude and work ethic. Splitter is a good fit for us, he's improving, but I dont believe he's worth more than: Boris, Tim, Tony, Manu, Patty, Danny, or Kawhi. Splitter has shown about 2 games where he is capable of changing momentum; his awesome passing in the dallas series (which was basically negated by Blairs defense and hustle plays) and his block on Wade. More oft than not, he's the one getting outrebounded or dunked on, or blocked.

[Taking it to the Hole]

What a terrible take. And that's coming from me. Splitter was signed and is a starter because of his defense. Anything he gives on offense is just a bonus. Come on son.

My issue is with his mentality. He did play very well defensively this postseason but his lack of aggressiveness was shown when Pop pulled the plug and inserted Diaw who performed much better than Splitter did in the Finals. I am saying that if he is a starter, he should want to improve offensively and not be content with just put backs or easy lay-ups. His post game has improved but it is nowhere near the caliber of the better starting centers in the league.

[tholdren]

My issue is with his mentality. He did play very well defensively this postseason but his lack of aggressiveness was shown when Pop pulled the plug and inserted Diaw who performed much better than Splitter did in the Finals. I am saying that if he is a starter, he should want to improve offensively and not be content with just put backs or easy lay-ups. His post game has improved but it is nowhere near the caliber of the better starting centers in the league.

And that is the issue, because almost all the bigs are TERRIBLE today.

[Jenks]

I thought you were trying to be funny, I didn't realize you were actually arguing that Blair is better than Splitter. The guy gets 15mpg behind ing Dalembert, I mean rofl come on guy.

I also don't think you have any concept of the price of quality big men in the NBA. The idea that Patty Mills should have a bigger contract than Tiago Splitter in the NBA in 2014 makes you a bonafide re .

[Baam]

Bottom line is Splitter is situational role player who lost his spot to Bonner and as such he's overpaid...

[Baam]

My issue is with his mentality. He did play very well defensively this postseason but his lack of aggressiveness was shown when Pop pulled the plug and inserted Diaw who performed much better than Splitter did in the Finals. I am saying that if he is a starter, he should want to improve offensively and not be content with just put backs or easy lay-ups. His post game has improved but it is nowhere near the caliber of the better starting centers in the league.

His post game didnt improve, it still doesn't exist... He has a better shot at developping a jumper...

[Jenks]

Bottom line is Splitter is situational role player who lost his spot to Bonner and as such he's overpaid...

Are you under the impression that Manu lost the starting job to Michael Finley? I'm just wondering how far you'd take this re ed line of trolling.

[Baam]

Are you under the impression that Manu lost the starting job to Michael Finley? I'm just wondering how far you'd take this re ed line of trolling.

Manu was never turned into a cheerleader . Splitter cant post up even point guards or shoot thus he always end up being owned in the POs when it gets tough...

Useless against a 25% Ibaka and 2013 Finals worst player on either sides...

[Knoxxx]

His post game didnt improve, it still doesn't exist... He has a better shot at developping a jumper...

But hes great at reverse layups and kicking the ball out to wide open though sometimes surprised 3 point shooters.

[Jenks]

Manu was never turned into a cheerleader .

Neither was Splitter

Try again?

[DocDoc]

You've got to give tholdren the nod on this one. He's wrong about Splitter, but advanced stats don't suggest it.

You have to look at minutes played. Sample size in the playoffs is small anyway and when you basically play very few minutes, it gets skewed farther. One of the reasons Bonner's stats overrate him is the sample size.

This year's playoffs, DeJuan 81 minutes in 6 games, Splitter 516 minutes in 23 games. WS/48 was .255 for DJB, .239 for Splitter. So, if you want to argue that DJB was better in that small sample, go ahead. However, LeBron was only at .270 for the playoffs. You willing to argue that DJB is almost as good as LeBron? Duncan was at .204 - you want to claim that DJB is better than Duncan?

If you look at regular season stats, where you have more data, DJB WS/48 was .133, Splitter was just below Duncan at .163.

[Darkwaters]

I like Splitter. It is just he is not a starting caliber center statistically speaking. He did redeem himself this post-season partially from his performance last year but for the money he is getting is just too much. I just wish he would learn how to dunk a ball occasionally when he is two feet from the basket rather than trying to lay it up. The one facet of Splitter's game that I really dislike is his lack of aggressiveness when he is put in post up situations. If he developed just a little bit of a mean streak, he could really put up some numbers.

Seriously? Are you unfamiliar with the typical starting center in the NBA?

[Knoxxx]

Splitters contract was his one big NBA payday and he's a team guy, knows our system, and plays elite perimeter defense as well as pick and roll offense and defense.

This is a classic case of the numbers don't tell the whole story, stop hating on Tiago! (yes I too wish he could hit more than 1 out of 5 attempts on that " gy" hook shot)

[Obstructed_View]

After seeing Frye and Kaman's contracts, nobody should think Splitter's contract is bad.

[Mel_13]

After seeing Frye and Kaman's contracts, nobody should think Splitter's contract is bad.

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