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    NY gonna get screwed again. Just like good old times.

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    weather looks gloomy in miami

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    i wonder who will get ujiri'd

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    How do y'all think Melo's decision to stay with NY affects the Pau situation? Probably hurts our already small chances tbh...Pau is probably going to Chicago now.

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    Jeremy Lin, Houston like Soooooooo Jeremy....

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    weather looks gloomy in miami



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    Another Spurs killer. He better not go OKC.

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    Another Spurs killer. He better not go OKC.
    On the bright side, if OKC ends up having to use their MLE on Miller, that means no Pau. I'd rather them get Miller than Pau tbh...

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    Provided this James-to-Cleveland thing happens, Miller would take the rest of the cap space, and Allen/Granger would take the room exception.

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    Provided this James-to-Cleveland thing happens, Miller would take the rest of the cap space, and Allen/Granger would take the room exception.
    If this happens, Cleveland gonna cakewalk to the Final.

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    Not gonna lie, Cleveland will be pretty scary if they have a Kyrie/LeBron/Love core. Especially if they can manage to keep Wiggins.

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    Not gonna lie, Cleveland will be pretty scary if they have a Kyrie/LeBron/Love core. Especially if they can manage to keep Wiggins.
    No way Wiggins is not included. I can't see Minnesota taking Waiters, Anderson Verajo, and some other young talent for Love. They would have to include Kyrie and/or Verajo in any trade to make the money match up.

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    Provided this James-to-Cleveland thing happens, Miller would take the rest of the cap space, and Allen/Granger would take the room exception.
    Do they actually have cap space after signing Bron? From what I am reading, after the moves they have made, they have 22M in cap space (counting cap holds and everything). If they sign Lebron to 20M, that only leaves 2M for Miller in your scenario.

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    The Cavs would be fools to trade Wiggins. They need an athletic wing defender much more than they need Irving/Love. Those two are just going to be role-players anyway.

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    Wow - people are so high in Wiggins. Maybe he does pan out to be very good (I don't see it, but maybe). If you need defenders, you can trade or sign those guys (Danny Green types). You can't just walk out and grab Kevin Love's.

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    Do they actually have cap space after signing Bron? From what I am reading, after the moves they have made, they have 22M in cap space (counting cap holds and everything). If they sign Lebron to 20M, that only leaves 2M for Miller in your scenario.
    I haven't looked at the numbers all that carefully. Remember, though, that the roster charges go away as more players are added. The Cavs would get a half-million back after inking Lebron.

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    I haven't looked at the numbers all that carefully. Remember, though, that the roster charges go away as more players are added. The Cavs would get a half-million back after inking Lebron.
    Sure - but in looking at that, I think they would still only have about 2M in cap space for a FA (might be a little off though).

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    Not gonna lie, Cleveland will be pretty scary if they have a Kyrie/LeBron/Love core. Especially if they can manage to keep Wiggins.
    If Wiggins isn't included in any trade for Love then the NBA needs to take a look at Flip Sanders bank account

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    Wow - people are so high in Wiggins. Maybe he does pan out to be very good (I don't see it, but maybe). If you need defenders, you can trade or sign those guys (Danny Green types). You can't just walk out and grab Kevin Love's.
    Who's the Green waiting for someone to sign him? As far as Love goes, you can find stretch-fours relatively easily, too. That's all he'd be if James insists on playing on the ball so much.

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    Yeah noway cavs pull that off without givng up something legit

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    Who's the Green waiting for someone to sign him? As far as Love goes, you can find stretch-fours relatively easily, too. That's all he'd be if James insists on playing on the ball so much.
    Except finding capable wing defenders as good as a rookie is much easier than finding the best stretch 4 in the NBA. There might not be a Green (there seemingly are more Greens out there though that teams just haven't found or don't place importance on) that is known, but again, you can trade for those guys if you really want one usually.

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    Yeah, I think Love is being sold a bit short here. He's not "just a stretch 4". He's leagues ahead of someone like Ryan Anderson. He can do more than score; he's an elite rebounder and a great playmaker for someone his size. I get what you're saying about some of his impact being marginalized playing alongside LeBron, but I still think he'd be FAR more important than just a "role player" on the Cavs.

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    They wont trade Wiggins. Waiters, ing Bennett and Thompson could do it.

    LeBron will get ring chasers - Allen, Lewis, Birdman or even Haslem.

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