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  1. #101
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    Hill is one of the most overrated players in the league, tbh..

    Typical Laker that becomes overrated, like many before him..

  2. #102
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    $ 9 mil/2 yrs ain't that bad. He's very good player when healthy. ing Nick Young however I can't believe they paid him that much
    that is bad..they could have gotten him for half that and signed Lance or Ariza both of whom I wanted along with Lin....Swaggy P could have been had for 4 yrs / 15 million...Mitch may not be so smart after all.

    Lance and Ariza would be a perfect balance right now....and then throw the vet min at Jermain Oneal and we roll

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    How is a S&T possible at this point? Lakers have no cap room and they must have renounced his rights to do all their other hole signings...
    You can still S&T a renounced player:

    There is a rule that allows teams to re-sign their own free agents for trading purposes, called the sign-and-trade rule. Under this rule the player is re-signed and immediately traded to another team. This is done by adding a clause to the contract stipulating that the contract is null and void if the trade to the specific team is not completed within 48 hours. To qualify for a sign-and-trade, all of the following must be true:

    The player must re-sign with his prior team -- a team cannot include another team's free agent in a sign-and-trade.
    The player must finish the preceding season with that team (deals are no longer allowed that sign-and-trade players who are out of the league, such as the sign-and-trade that sent Keith Van Horn from Dallas to New Jersey as part of the Jason Kidd trade in 2008).
    The player cannot be a restricted free agent who has signed an offer sheet with another team (see question number 44).
    Starting in 2013-14, the team receiving the player cannot be above the "apron" ($4 million above the tax level) after the trade1, 2. A team above the apron can receive a player in a sign-and-trade if the trade reduces the team's payroll and the team finishes the trade below the apron.
    Starting in 2013-14, the team cannot receive a player in a sign-and-trade if they have used the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (see question number 25) that season.1
    The trade must be completed prior to the first game of the regular season (sign-and-trades are not allowed once the season begins).
    The player cannot be signed using the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, or any exception that cannot be used to offer a three-year contract (see question number 25).
    A sign-and-trade deal can be made with a free agent who has been renounced, as long as all the above criteria are met. Sign-and-trade contracts must be for at least three seasons (not including any option year) and no longer than four seasons. The first year of the contract must be fully guaranteed, but the remaining seasons can be non-guaranteed. The combination of a three-year minimum with a one-year guarantee ensures that the player's new team cannot acquire the player's Bird rights any sooner than if they had signed him directly (if they wanted to re-sign him in less than three years they would first have to waive him, and lose any Bird rights -- see question number 33).
    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q91

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    that is bad..they could have gotten him for half that and signed Lance or Ariza both of whom I wanted along with Lin....Swaggy P could have been had for 4 yrs / 15 million...Mitch may not be so smart after all.

    Lance and Ariza would be a perfect balance right now....and then throw the vet min at Jermain Oneal and we roll
    They don't have a lot of options. I don't know if I want Lance for $15 mil tho. It seems like that's his asking pricer considering how much $$$ Parsons, Hayward are getting.

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    Hill is one of the most overrated players in the league, tbh..

    Typical Laker that becomes overrated, like many before him..

    He's just lazy that's all....hopefully Kobe lights a fire in him.. ty starting 5 and ty bench....but I'm at peace with it

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    that is bad..they could have gotten him for half that and signed Lance or Ariza both of whom I wanted along with Lin....Swaggy P could have been had for 4 yrs / 15 million...Mitch may not be so smart after all.

    Lance and Ariza would be a perfect balance right now....and then throw the vet min at Jermain Oneal and we roll
    Lance is a headache we don't have to brook. Ariza has been on the back burner for 5 years. It's too late.

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    How much was Puke Walton offered?

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    Jordan Hill after carrying Kirby to Randle


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    He's just lazy that's all....hopefully Kobe lights a fire in him.. ty starting 5 and ty bench....but I'm at peace with it
    The Lakers will be all about Kobe chasing records the next few seasons, which is fine, he has earned it, tbh..

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    Jordan Hill after carrying Kirby to Randle

    I'm a trend setter.

    I set trends.

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    that is bad..they could have gotten him for half that and signed Lance or Ariza both of whom I wanted along with Lin....Swaggy P could have been had for 4 yrs / 15 million...Mitch may not be so smart after all.

    Lance and Ariza would be a perfect balance right now....and then throw the vet min at Jermain Oneal and we roll
    No, they couldn't have (only shot would be if the stretched Nash or traded with no salary back). They had 24M in cap space with no stretch of Nash before all the moves. They would have about 28M after the stretch. If they did everything the same but gave Hill 4.5M in stead they have:

    8M Lin / 4.5M Hill / 5M Swaggy P = 17.5M. Without stretching Nash, that leaves 6.5M left. Doubtful that Lance or Ariza sign for that much. If they stretched Nash, then it's possible.

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    They don't have a lot of options. I don't know if I want Lance for $15 mil tho. It seems like that's his asking pricer considering how much $$$ Parsons, Hayward are getting.
    Lance proved he can gaurd and defend both Wade and Lebron and still put up big numbers he deserved it more than Parsons tbh..Lance would give the West conference all sorts of with his balance of skills and fearlessness.... epic fail on Mitch part...and doubly for not getting a good shooter in Ariza to compliment that scenario

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    The Lakers will be all about Kobe chasing records the next few seasons, which is fine, he has earned it, tbh..
    Har, sporting his sore head after James went up North on him.

    tee, hee.

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    From upstairs


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    Won't taking on Boozer's salary put them over the cap?

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    No, they couldn't have (only shot would be if the stretched Nash or traded with no salary back). They had 24M in cap space with no stretch of Nash before all the moves. They would have about 28M after the stretch. If they did everything the same but gave Hill 4.5M in stead they have:

    8M Lin / 4.5M Hill / 5M Swaggy P = 17.5M. Without stretching Nash, that leaves 6.5M left. Doubtful that Lance or Ariza sign for that much. If they stretched Nash, then it's possible.
    Thanks for spelling it out but I'm still right....it's up to mgmt to make the right moves to make it happen and they could have had both players as I mentioned

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    Some dip GM will take on Nash for a 2nd rounder or something.

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    So unless the Lakers release Nash..all signs point to Pau in SA?

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    I think Jordan Hill's second year is a team option, which makes wayyyy more sense. Lakers just filling their roster with one year deals like they did last year.

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    So unless the Lakers release Nash..all signs point to Pau in SA?
    Yes Pau wants to go to SA because he doesn't want to have to work for ...he expects it to be a cake walk....besides it's much easier to get from another 7 footer already on your team...

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    So unless the Lakers release Nash..all signs point to Pau in SA?
    They can't release him. They have to find a willing trade suitor and can't take back salary.

    Gonna have to be Nash for pick(s).

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    I think Jordan Hill's second year is a team option, which makes wayyyy more sense. Lakers just filling their roster with one year deals like they did last year.
    yep but still too much could have shaved off 5 mill he's a scrub he would have taken it....

  23. #123
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    Lance proved he can gaurd and defend both Wade and Lebron and still put up big numbers he deserved it more than Parsons tbh..Lance would give the West conference all sorts of with his balance of skills and fearlessness.... epic fail on Mitch part...and doubly for not getting a good shooter in Ariza to compliment that scenario
    Off season doesn't look good thats for sure, Lin, Hill, Young and maybe Henry I think thats pretty much it for us

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    I think Jordan Hill's second year is a team option, which makes wayyyy more sense. Lakers just filling their roster with one year deals like they did last year.
    Ahh, much better, given his health.

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    Pau going to San Antonio would be priceless smfh

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