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    This guy is a complete ing idiot. Why would you choose the Bulls for MLE type money? Worse decision than even Greg Oden made last summer. I knew it was a long shot and didn't get excited about it as I wanted players in different positions (backup SF/small ball PF that can play defense), but I would have taken him for MLE type money, as would most have on this board.

    If he didn't want to play for the Spurs and was only going to take MLE type money, why would you not go to OKC instead? As much as I don't like Westbrook, that guy has way more heart than Derek Rose. He takes 6 or so weeks off with a similar injury as Derek Rose had this season (I think they both had meniscus injuries? correct me if I am wrong) and gets back on the court as soon as he can and goes all ing out. Rose takes the whole year off instead.

    Complete ing moron Gasol is. I guess he's cut from the same soft cloth as Derek Rose.

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    Kind of makes me wonder about Belinelli, if the Spurs were shopping for Marvin Williams, and Caron Buttler. Any SF signing affects him more than any other player. Ginobili is the 2 guard playing the backup 3 so Belinelli can stay at his natural position. Spurs add a SF to the rotation and his minutes get cut, unless they play the have a PG-less lineup.

    I think our big man core could certainly be better. After Duncan, Splitter and Diaw its Ayers, Baynes and Bonner. Bonner still holds value against certain teams (Memphis) but his time has past. Ayers has the some of the worst hands in the NBA, 2nd to only Perkins. Baynes is an excellent rebounder and has some skill on offense but fouls like crazy and doesn't protect the basket. He's also a bit old to be a project, he can improve only but so much at this point.

    I would be interested in Emeka Okafor, assuming he's ready to go after the neck thing. Aminu ,then again, could play both SF & PF off the bench.
    I like aminu athletic and long and his shot can be fixed, it's just mechanics with jinx release point and speed. His pocket is low. But it leads me to believe with daye in the summer league that he is our new bonner

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    I like aminu athletic and long and his shot can be fixed, it's just mechanics with jinx release point and speed. His pocket is low. But it leads me to believe with daye in the summer league that he is our new bonner
    Well, if he continues to shoot 1-8 from 3s he won't be.

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    There is a thing called age and as much as TD and Manu keep defying it, we can't always expect that to be the case. So, we can't just stand pat while contenders like the Cavs, who will be deeper than you're giving them credit for, are looking to buy their way to the top and oh yeah, the fact that we've never repeated. Look I'm loving this high of winning it all again but we can't get too y when taking our past le defenses in account. These are legit concerns, man.
    We also don't rely on Tim and Manu like year's past. Most of our core guys are still relatively young anyway. Plus the Spurs have the defenders to stop Love/Irving. LeBron will get his usual stats. You put Green on Irving and Boris/Tiago on Love.

    I still don't get what's so special about Pau. It's not like the Spurs were thin up front to begin with. They need a backup 3 and possibly another PG since Patty is out until April. Right now, the Spurs have a good chance of repeating as currently constructed. Every other team in the league is trying to find their iden y, the Cavs included, while the Spurs have perfect chemistry and a system that no other team has the pieces to execute.

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    "With James’ move home, the East is wide open. The Bulls join Cleveland, Washington, Indiana and sure, the Knicks, as the frontrunners to get mopped up by a Western Conference team. I like the Bulls’ chances, provided, of course, Rose stays healthy. Anthony would've been the perfect addition for an offensively challenged team, but Rose with a team full of “floor spacers” isn’t bad. Now they just need one other guy who can create his own shot late in games....The organizational dream of emulating the San Antonio Spurs is just that, a dream. But their win over Miami gave credence to the idea that “Big Three”-style teams can’t always beat well-rounded teams that have continuity among its stars. I’m confident this is another 55-plus win team with a healthy Rose and the expected roster around him. Is that enough to go from contender to favorite? " -- Jon Greenberg, ESPNChicago.com

    Throughout the article he keeps mentioning "a healthy Rose." Well, good luck with that.
    bull, anthony would have killed this team with his terrible bb iq and shot selection.

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    It's not like Tim or Manu were playing at their 2005 levels during this run tbh. Their play could slip but I think both know their bodies well enough that they're confident in replicating their performances by choosing to not retire after a championship.

    The Cavs will win a ring but they're a couple of years away
    IMO regardless if they get Love. I'm not sure if the Spurs get out of the West but if they do, I like their chances of repeating tbh.
    I think that really depends on who'd they give up. I heard Waiters and Wiggins along with 2 1st rounders for Love. Unless Minny accepts Bennett and or Thompson in place of Wiggins.

    I think that Minny has to hard ball this. Make Cleveland pay out the nose for him like Denver did with the Knicks (Chandler, Galinari, Mosgov, Felton, 2014 unprotected pick) either they get Wiggins and Waiter or they have to give up Thompson and Bennett along with Waiters and 2 picks.

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    Well, if he continues to shoot 1-8 from 3s he won't be.
    It's the illusion of effective results over behavior, he stretches the floor even if he's not consistent and he's cheap and has half a season under his belt in the system. Unless we get Novak back or some other specialist we will roll with him

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    I think that really depends on who'd they give up. I heard Waiters and Wiggins along with 2 1st rounders for Love. Unless Minny accepts Bennett and or Thompson in place of Wiggins.

    I think that Minny has to hard ball this. Make Cleveland pay out the nose for him like Denver did with the Knicks (Chandler, Galinari, Mosgov, Felton, 2014 unprotected pick) either they get Wiggins and Waiter or they have to give up Thompson and Bennett along with Waiters and 2 picks.
    love isnt worth all that, and i am not a wiggins fan

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    love isnt worth all that, and i am not a wiggins fan
    Serious question, all hate aside, are you a fan of any players in today's NBA, tbh?..

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    Plus Daye looks like he tweaked his release a little, still needs to adjust. Whemnhe had the ball kicked to him and he was able to swing his leg into the shot to square up his hip it was effective. When he pulls up he was out of rhythm a lot, New shot and mechanics..

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    We also don't rely on Tim and Manu like year's past. Most of our core guys are still relatively young anyway. Plus the Spurs have the defenders to stop Love/Irving. LeBron will get his usual stats. You put Green on Irving and Boris/Tiago on Love.

    I still don't get what's so special about Pau. It's not like the Spurs were thin up front to begin with. They need a backup 3 and possibly another PG since Patty is out until April. Right now, the Spurs have a good chance of repeating as currently constructed. Every other team in the league is trying to find their iden y, the Cavs included, while the Spurs have perfect chemistry and a system that no other team has the pieces to execute.
    Insurance policy for Duncan. Thats why most didn't mind him. And I am not just stating this after the fact, but if the choices came down to Marion or Gasol, i would pick Marion as he is actually a guy the Spurs could really use in the playoffs. Maybe that's why the Spurs didn't press for Gasol after Cuban made that offer to the Rockets.

    Not stating that guy as a reliable source, but that Tspence dude did confirm that Marion was the first FA the Spurs reached out after Pau made his decision. Just food for thought.

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    I like aminu athletic and long and his shot can be fixed, it's just mechanics with jinx release point and speed. His pocket is low. But it leads me to believe with daye in the summer league that he is our new bonner
    I've been on the Aminu bandwagon for months now. I'd think he be cheap and his potential, even if only partially realized, could be very valuable. A ,big, athletic and long wing that can check Melo, Durant and Lebron for a spell off the bench would be a great luxury to have. Especially if Leonard gets in foul trouble or even injured. He can also board well and has half decent handles from what I've seen

    I didn't catch the SL game, did he put on some weight? I think he was listed at 210 last year. He probably needs to be in the area code of 230 ( Bonner's weight) to be a capable replacement IMO.

    The thing I like about Bonner is his ability to defend the post. Most stretch fours can be exploited in certain match-ups. If Daye can do that then he seems like a good replacement.

    You were the one who really liked Kyle Anderson out of UCLA, heading up to the draft.Do you think he projects as a SF or even a PF, at this point?

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    Serious question, all hate aside, are you a fan of any players in today's NBA, tbh?..
    excellent question? Out of curiosity, is that avi from Amateur Allure or was that your last one?

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    Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixSI

    Wizards offer to Trevor Ariza was comparable to Houston's, but tax-free Texas was a factor in his decision, per a source.

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    Insurance policy for Duncan. Thats why most didn't mind him. And I am not just stating this after the fact, but if the choices came down to Marion or Gasol, i would pick Marion as he is actually a guy the Spurs could really use in the playoffs. Maybe that's why the Spurs didn't press for Gasol after Cuban made that offer to the Rockets.

    Not stating that guy as a reliable source, but that Tspence dude did confirm that Marion was the first FA the Spurs reached out after Pau made his decision. Just food for thought.
    Yeah, I would have been fine if Pau came over. I was just referring to SpurPadre saying that Pau is needed for the Spurs to repeat. They already have a good chance to repeat because of their solid system that no other team can replicate at the moment and a team like Cleveland is still trying to figure out their iden y. It is still unknown if Irving is willing to take a 2nd role to LeBron. And yes, Marion is a guy I want to.

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    I've been on the Aminu bandwagon for months now. I'd think he be cheap and his potential, even if only partially realized, could be very valuable. A ,big, athletic and long wing that can check Melo, Durant and Lebron for a spell off the bench would be a great luxury to have. Especially if Leonard gets in foul trouble or even injured. He can also board well and has half decent handles from what I've seen

    I didn't catch the SL game, did he put on some weight? I think he was listed at 210 last year. He probably needs to be in the area code of 230 ( Bonner's weight) to be a capable replacement IMO.

    The thing I like about Bonner is his ability to defend the post. Most stretch fours can be exploited in certain match-ups. If Daye can do that then he seems like a good replacement.

    You were the one who really liked Kyle Anderson out of UCLA, heading up to the draft.Do you think he projects as a SF or even a PF, at this point?
    He's not really either he is a point forward who handles the rock well and will be amazing in in a few years but he fits more as a small forward, he won't look good bulked up. In a few years when he matures into his body and his shot develops we will have a great pairing with him and Kawhi.

    Daye won't get much bigger but I'm thinking pop has finally adopted the idea that teams will need to match up with us rather than getting exploited by others.

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    We also don't rely on Tim and Manu like year's past. Most of our core guys are still relatively young anyway. Plus the Spurs have the defenders to stop Love/Irving. LeBron will get his usual stats. You put Green on Irving and Boris/Tiago on Love.

    I still don't get what's so special about Pau. It's not like the Spurs were thin up front to begin with. They need a backup 3 and possibly another PG since Patty is out until April. Right now, the Spurs have a good chance of repeating as currently constructed. Every other team in the league is trying to find their iden y, the Cavs included, while the Spurs have perfect chemistry and a system that no other team has the pieces to execute.
    Tiago may have trouble with Love, Diaw would probably be better. The only problem I could see is if they have Wiggins at the 2 guard. That means Parker is covering him, while Green checks Irving.

    Pau would have been the 4th big man. Given how mediocre our other 3 bigs are (Baynes, Ayers and Bonner) he would have been a godsend. He could have easily carved out a 24 minute a night niche and more in rest games for Duncan. He is as skilled in the post and as a passer as Diaw but a better rebounder. Him and Diaw could have been something special as a PF-C tandem.

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    Yeah, I would have been fine if Pau came over. I was just referring to SpurPadre saying that Pau is needed for the Spurs to repeat. They already have a good chance to repeat because of their solid system that no other team can replicate at the moment and a team like Cleveland is still trying to figure out their iden y. It is still unknown if Irving is willing to take a 2nd role to LeBron. And yes, Marion is a guy I want to.
    Spurs are contenders w or wo Gasol. Marion is a guy that actually would swing the edge more to the Spurs favor in matching up against OKC.

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    Gasol would just be a cherry on top to what's been a good offseason for Spurfan. him going to Chicago is good news for us too, fwiw

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    There is a thing called age and as much as TD and Manu keep defying it, we can't always expect that to be the case. So, we can't just stand pat while contenders like the Cavs, who will be deeper than you're giving them credit for, are looking to buy their way to the top and oh yeah, the fact that we've never repeated. Look I'm loving this high of winning it all again but we can't get too y when taking our past le defenses in account. These are legit concerns, man.
    Spurs are contenders w or wo Gasol. Marion is a guy that actually would swing the edge more to the Spurs favor in matching up against OKC.
    I worry more about the west than a hypothetical Bulls team.
    Marion to spell Leonard for some D.

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    I know I know. I thought MAYBE, just MAYBE, this one time would be different since Pau is a foreigner and is big on culture, he's apparently friends with Parker, we just won the le, etc...but yeah, like you said, we're fine as is. Again, I'm more annoyed I wasted my time than I am Pau isn't coming here.

    I at least hope we use some of our MLE still. Aminu or Marion would be nice.
    I laughed at reports of Spurs as frontrunners because I have heard that a million times and seen sources and threads etc., but it is always the same song. I never buy into any of it and did not waste one day thinking Gasol would be a Spur! I am glad I didn't. I knew from day one he would not be in SA and laughed it off, and it came true.

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    I thought you were gay at first when you mentioned your husband before. I didn't want to be rude and offend new age sensibilities. But being a woman makes a lot more sense, especially the Parker love and excuses.
    Only problem with your assessment is regarding my 'love' of Parker. Actually, Parker is too young for me, man. Now, Parker's DAD is one very very handsome dude!

    My reactions regarding Parker have much more to do with reacting to people who hate on Parker for doing exactly what Pop wants him to do. I just see Parker as the creation of Pop, with a personality almost like an 'abused child'. That young man will do anything and everything that Pop wants him to do and nothing
    that Pop does NOT want him to do. He was made a pg in the image and likeness of Pop. I support him because I feel sorry for him.

    Manu is and always has been my favorite spur...but I'm too old to have a crush on any of them.

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    Only problem with your assessment is regarding my 'love' of Parker. Actually, Parker is too young for me, man. Now, Parker's DAD is one very very handsome dude!

    My reactions regarding Parker have much more to do with reacting to people who hate on Parker for doing exactly what Pop wants him to do. I just see Parker as the creation of Pop, with a personality almost like an 'abused child'. That young man will do anything and everything that Pop wants him to do and nothing
    that Pop does NOT want him to do. He was made a pg in the image and likeness of Pop. I support him because I feel sorry for him.

    Manu is and always has been my favorite spur...but I'm too old to have a crush on any of them.

    ok. I guess it makes some sense.

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    Time to take this thread out back and put a bullet in it.

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    Time to take this thread out back and put a bullet in it.
    NOT YET! IT'S ONLY A VERBAL AGREEMENT!!!!

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