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  1. #76
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    IMO the ref chose

    - Penalty + Yellow

    instead of

    - Red card + Free Kick inches from Box


    Scenario #2 would have buried Brazil 3 minutes into the game

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    well, okay, don't blame the ref for giving a peno instead of a freekick as it was very close (I'll admit that), but you still have to blame the ref for not giving a red card. that was as red as it gets.
    I agree but it was the 3rd minute of the game. Sure it was a red but it was the 3rd minute of a meaningless game and the host was brazil.

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    I agree but it was the 3rd minute of the game. Sure it was a red but it was the 3rd minute of a meaningless game and the host was brazil.
    very true. but still, does that mean brazil is free of all cards? brazil could have seen a couple of sent-offs... none of those actually happened, although most should have had... well, Brazil should have seen two straight reds this tournament (Neymar elbowing Modric on purpose and now Silva for that foul on Robben) and several yellow-reds (Silva in the first game for a tactical foul to stop a Croatian counter attack around the 70th minute, both Silva and Fernandinho for repeatedly hacking the out of James against Colombia and you could also argue for some against Chile...), but I bet that no ref has the guts to actually do that on their home turf.

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    very true. but still, does that mean brazil is free of all cards? brazil could have seen a couple of sent-offs... none of those actually happened, although most should had... well, Brazil should have seen two straight reds this tournament (Neymar elbowing Modric on purpose and now Silva for that foul on Robben) and several yellow-reds (Silva in the first game for a tactical foul to stop a Croatian counter attack around the 70th minute, both Silva and Fernandinho for repeatedly hacking the out of James against Colombia and you could also argue for some against Chile...), but I bet that no ref has the guts to actually do that on their home turf.
    Agree 100%

    Not to mention Brazil goalkeeper should have been sent off vs Colombia

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    Agree 100%

    Not to mention Brazil goalkeeper should have been sent off vs Colombia
    right, forgot to mention that one. 3rd straight red which had not been given...

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    Yup. I'm not even sure why Messi is in the discussion at the moment
    Because he sent Robben packing

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    had to be a red card, no doubts. the ref didn't have the guts though...

    however, no peno but a freekick instead. was outside the box. that ref was blind.
    You could argue the ref had a bad angle, but the linesman didn't even lift the flag... just terrible.

  9. #84
    Because he sent Robben packing
    Argie goalie and macherank sent robben packing.

    messi is a distand 3rd in golden boot. He would need 2 goals to obtain it

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    Argie goalie and macherank sent robben packing.

    messi is a distand 3rd in golden boot. He would need 2 goals to obtain it
    Nobody cares about the details. Just like it wasn't Burruchaga's Argentina in 86...

    It's Messi's Argentina sending Robben's Netherlands packing. That's it and that's all.

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    Nobody cares about the details. Just like it wasn't Burruchaga's Argentina in 86...

    It's Messi's Argentina sending Robben's Netherlands packing. That's it and that's all.
    Podolski sent Messi packing in Back2Back World Cups

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    Podolski sent Messi packing in Back2Back World Cups
    Germany was the better team then.

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    Germany was the better team then.
    In 2006 no way! We had that Pekerman pussy, that's why we lost. Pekerman was, is and will always be a kiddie's coach. Thank God we got rid of him.
    In 2010 they had the better coach and better luck. Getting scored in the 3rd minute is a big slap in the face for any team, especially one coached by a man with no brain cells.

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    4-0 is luck nowadays, ok...

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    4-0 is luck nowadays, ok...
    yeah, I don't buy it. PK you could argue that.

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    yeah, I don't buy it. PK you could argue that.
    PK is always luck. But when you lose 0-4, the other team was simply better!

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    PK is always luck. But when you lose 0-4, the other team was simply better!
    sometimes 1-0 is good enough... morale of the story: to the winner goes the spoils.

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    PK is always luck. But when you lose 0-4, the other team was simply better!
    The first goal was on the third minute, the second on the 70th. Argentina dominated that game until the 2nd goal, that's something you can't argue. Germany didn't look that good in that time span. After that, the whole Argentine team fell apart. It's useless to argue that now, but Germany was not the team everyone thinks they were, and that showed against Spain.

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    The first goal was on the third minute, the second on the 70th. Argentina dominated that game until the 2nd goal, that's something you can't argue. Germany didn't look that good in that time span. After that, the whole Argentine team fell apart. It's useless to argue that now, but Germany was not the team everyone thinks they were, and that showed against Spain.

  20. #95
    What sentence made you laugh?

    1. The first goal was on the third minute, the second on the 70th.
    2. Argentina dominated that game until the 2nd goal, that's something you can't argue.
    3. Germany didn't look that good in that time span.
    4. After that, the whole Argentine team fell apart.
    5. It's useless to argue that now, but Germany was not the team everyone thinks they were, and that showed against Spain.

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