Spurs Select Kyle Anderson in the 2014 NBA Draft (30th Overall)

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I don't know what the game you guys are watching. He's got very good court vision, he makes smart plays with the ball, he's very physical without the ball, he's an absolute thief, and he's an aggressive and smart rebounder. He didn't shoot well, but he was checking Wiggins, who didn't look impressive today. Everyone on the team was a three-point-shooting black hole against the Cavs except Anderson.

[tholdren]

George Hill shot 8% in Vegas.

You're proving the point for Anderson doubters, George Hill is a TERRRRRIBLE point. I have really never understood how he is even in the league. His only attribute is that he sometimes plays defense. Cant shoot, cant dribble, cant pass....

Now on to Anderson. Game versus Cavs, he looked like . Lit up by Wiggins. Weak moves, and, as advertised, slow and anti-athletic. I know it's summer league, and doesnt mean much, but he looked bad. Deshaun Thomas looked much better, and there should be no way in he's a pro. Again, it's summer league but no one here can say KA looked like "lottery quality" based on anything he's done in the first couple games. For a smart guy with a high BB IQ how in the did he get no assists in 25 plus minutes? strange.

[xmas1997]

I don't know what the game you guys are watching. He's got very good court vision, he makes smart plays with the ball, he's very physical without the ball, he's an absolute thief, and he's an aggressive and smart rebounder. He didn't shoot well, but he was checking Wiggins, who didn't look impressive today. Everyone on the team was a three-point-shooting black hole against the Cavs except Anderson.

I figured we were hearing lots of BS from people on here.
Thanks for the astute observations.

[tholdren]

I don't know what the game you guys are watching. He's got very good court vision, he makes smart plays with the ball, he's very physical without the ball, he's an absolute thief, and he's an aggressive and smart rebounder. He didn't shoot well, but he was checking Wiggins, who didn't look impressive today. Everyone on the team was a three-point-shooting black hole against the Cavs except Anderson.

Wiggins is extremely overrated, blocked the out of KA.

And for as smart as you claim him to be how did he play 25 minutes with ZERO assists?

[Mel_13]

You're proving the point for Anderson doubters

No. Read the post I quoted.

[tholdren]

No. Read the post I quoted.

Gotcha.

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Wiggins is extremely overrated, blocked the out of KA.

And for as smart as you claim him to be how did he play 25 minutes with ZERO assists?

Did you watch the game or are you making judgments off the box score? I said he makes smart plays with the ball. In order to make smart plays with the ball, you actually have to have the ball in your hands. He played small forward, checking Wiggins, with morons bringing up the ball and Daye reflexively jacking it up from long range as soon as he smelled leather. The Spurs shot three pointers or long jumpers off the dribble with more than 18 seconds on the clock for the majority of the first half, which is why they were down 20-3 or whatever. Anderson was the only guy attempting shots inside 12 feet, and scored the first time he touched the ball, which wasn't until almost five minutes into the game. The only other shot anywhere near the paint for the Spurs in the first quarter was the alley-oop to Green with less than 30 seconds to go.

Wiggins is a ing good defender. There's a reason he went number one and is going to be the starting small forward for the Cavs. I'm really okay that the 30th pick in the draft held his own against him. He went 7 of 18 against Jabarri Parker and went 3-11 against KA. What were you expecting?

In the second half, he brought the ball up a couple of times, and the movement suddenly got better. Clyde Frazier even mentioned how settled down the offense finally looked.

I'd be much more concerned having Ayres on the roster going forward than I would be about Anderson.

[Obstructed_View]

Lit up by Wiggins.

3-11, scro. He hit two long jumpers to start the game and made one more basket the rest of the way. He did his damage at the free throw line, and Anderson had one foul.

[xmas1997]

Did you watch the game or are you making judgments off the box score? I said he makes smart plays with the ball. In order to make smart plays with the ball, you actually have to have the ball in your hands. He played small forward, checking Wiggins, with morons bringing up the ball and Daye reflexively jacking it up from long range as soon as he smelled leather. The Spurs shot three pointers or long jumpers off the dribble with more than 18 seconds on the clock for the majority of the first half, which is why they were down 20-3 or whatever. Anderson was the only guy attempting shots inside 12 feet, and scored the first time he touched the ball, which wasn't until almost five minutes into the game. The only other shot anywhere near the paint for the Spurs in the first quarter was the alley-oop to Green with less than 30 seconds to go.

Wiggins is a ing good defender. There's a reason he went number one and is going to be the starting small forward for the Cavs. I'm really okay that the 30th pick in the draft held his own against him. He went 7 of 18 against Jabarri Parker and went 3-11 against KA. What were you expecting?

In the second half, he brought the ball up a couple of times, and the movement suddenly got better. Clyde Frazier even mentioned how settled down the offense finally looked.

I'd be much more concerned having Ayres on the roster going forward than I would be about Anderson.

Thanks again. I guess we saw the same game.
Not sure what they were watching.

[SouthernFried]

Did you watch the game or are you making judgments off the box score? I said he makes smart plays with the ball. In order to make smart plays with the ball, you actually have to have the ball in your hands. He played small forward, checking Wiggins, with morons bringing up the ball and Daye reflexively jacking it up from long range as soon as he smelled leather. The Spurs shot three pointers or long jumpers off the dribble with more than 18 seconds on the clock for the majority of the first half, which is why they were down 20-3 or whatever. Anderson was the only guy attempting shots inside 12 feet, and scored the first time he touched the ball, which wasn't until almost five minutes into the game. The only other shot anywhere near the paint for the Spurs in the first quarter was the alley-oop to Green with less than 30 seconds to go.

Wiggins is a ing good defender. There's a reason he went number one and is going to be the starting small forward for the Cavs. I'm really okay that the 30th pick in the draft held his own against him. He went 7 of 18 against Jabarri Parker and went 3-11 against KA. What were you expecting?

In the second half, he brought the ball up a couple of times, and the movement suddenly got better. Clyde Frazier even mentioned how settled down the offense finally looked.

I'd be much more concerned having Ayres on the roster going forward than I would be about Anderson.

This.

[tholdren]

Did you watch the game or are you making judgments off the box score? I said he makes smart plays with the ball. In order to make smart plays with the ball, you actually have to have the ball in your hands. He played small forward, checking Wiggins, with morons bringing up the ball and Daye reflexively jacking it up from long range as soon as he smelled leather. The Spurs shot three pointers or long jumpers off the dribble with more than 18 seconds on the clock for the majority of the first half, which is why they were down 20-3 or whatever. Anderson was the only guy attempting shots inside 12 feet, and scored the first time he touched the ball, which wasn't until almost five minutes into the game. The only other shot anywhere near the paint for the Spurs in the first quarter was the alley-oop to Green with less than 30 seconds to go.

Wiggins is a ing good defender. There's a reason he went number one and is going to be the starting small forward for the Cavs. I'm really okay that the 30th pick in the draft held his own against him. He went 7 of 18 against Jabarri Parker and went 3-11 against KA. What were you expecting?

In the second half, he brought the ball up a couple of times, and the movement suddenly got better. Clyde Frazier even mentioned how settled down the offense finally looked.

I'd be much more concerned having Ayres on the roster going forward than I would be about Anderson.

No I havent watched it yet, but will. So in 25 minutes he had, what 0 touches? 3 touches? For a former PG, and a high basketball IQ the only thing I saw(highlights) was his getting packed with a slow ass try in the paint. I will watch though. I just thought for a lottery talent he would have some better numbers, didnt mean to get you all hopped up.

And yes, Ayres needs to get the off the team. He's 27 and is still in Summer league

[montgod]

I agree with your take as well Obstructed. I thought KA had some very good active hands on defense. He could work on his offense a bit but I liked how he played otherwise.
Who can Spurs give a 2nd rounder to take Ayres off our hands lol?

[BatManu20]

There's no chance anyone takes Ayers in a trade IMO. We'd have to give up a pick to even entice a team. The league knows how bad he is.

[exstatic]

No I havent watched it yet, but will. So in 25 minutes he had, what 0 touches? 3 touches? For a former PG, and a high basketball IQ the only thing I saw(highlights) was his getting packed with a slow ass try in the paint. I will watch though. I just thought for a lottery talent he would have some better numbers, didnt mean to get you all hopped up.

And yes, Ayres needs to get the off the team. He's 27 and is still in Summer league

So, you watched some highlights, and feel qualified to speak to his NBA future. Plonk. Onto the ignore list with you.

[tholdren]

So, you watched some highlights, and feel qualified to speak to his NBA future. Plonk. Onto the ignore list with you.

you must have not learned how to inference properly in your schooling or TWENTY THREE THOUSAND posts.

[FireMicoHalili]

you must have not learned how to inference properly in your schooling or TWENTY THREE THOUSAND posts.

Naw man he's right. All the highlights they showed were Cavs highlights, and it would be unfair to adjudge Wiggins and/or Bennett stars in their own right too. Add to that Anderson played only 20+ minutes, I don't think you can expect same numbers he put up in college against slightly better compe ion. He's a lottery pick all right, but people's expectations for someone in that range are too lofty. Never seen anyone about a rookie so much from one highlight, one summer league game, and a 30th overall pick at that. Only David Lee was notable at #30 in the past decade.

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No I havent watched it yet, but will.

Ah.

So in 25 minutes he had, what 0 touches? 3 touches?

He didn't have very many. The ball movement was really horrid. He went like one for three in the first half and should have drawn a foul on one of his misses. The fact that he had one bad jumper in the game puts him miles ahead of everyone else on the roster. Did I mention that he was checking the number one pick in the draft and held him to an abysmal percentage without fouling him? Why the do we care how many touches he had?

For a former PG, and a high basketball IQ

Operative word being "former"; he was the starting small forward. Does high basketball IQ mean stealing the ball from teammates that won't pass? Again, I'm not sure what you expect. He was given the toughest defensive assignment in the entire summer league, and he just went and did his job. That's very Spur-like to me.

the only thing I saw(highlights) was his getting packed with a slow ass try in the paint.

So you saw a highlight off NBATV. What you missed is that Wiggins had to block with his off hand as Anderson went up. It was a pretty amazing defensive play. Anderson had three steals, one turnover (the shoulder bump on Wiggins) and one personal foul. Not sure how you can't be impressed by that, unless, of course, you just judged him off one highlight and perusing the box score.

I will watch though. I just thought for a lottery talent he would have some better numbers,

It's pretty embarrassing to base your evaluation of him on numbers. Not sure why any Spurs fan would do something like that. Austin Daye was the fifteenth pick in the draft, has played on actual NBA teams for four years, and absolutely dominates the ball in summer league and still has embarrassing numbers.

didnt mean to get you all hopped up.

Sorry. People who make snap judgments with absolutely zero information to go on piss me off. I take the time to watch the games, sometimes more than once, rewinding to see who did what before I make judgments, and people reading on this forum might make the mistake of thinking you know what the you're talking about. Guess that annoys me a bit. Sorry again for that.

[xmas1997]

OV, some of us on here like to reserve judgement. I lean more to the positive side of this though so I am a bit biased after watching lots of film of this kid and I think he will be special.
Thanks for taking the time to dissect these games.

[Hoops Czar]

3-11, scro. He hit two long jumpers to start the game and made one more basket the rest of the way. He did his damage at the free throw line, and Anderson had one foul.

Yes, Wiggins missed shots but it had nothing to do with KA's defense.

[Hoops Czar]

OV, some of us on here like to reserve judgement. I lean more to the positive side of this though so I am a bit biased after watching lots of film of this kid and I think he will be special.
Thanks for taking the time to dissect these games.

James Anderson kind of special? Malik hairston kind of special? Alonzo Gee kind of special? Dejuan Blair Kind of special? Nando De Colo kind of special? Jack McClinton kind of special? Ian Mahimni kind of special?

[Obstructed_View]

Yes, Wiggins missed shots but it had nothing to do with KA's defense.

All righty then.

[xmas1997]

James Anderson kind of special? Malik hairston kind of special? Alonzo Gee kind of special? Dejuan Blair Kind of special? Nando De Colo kind of special? Jack McClinton kind of special? Ian Mahimni kind of special?

You're really reaching there.
The only other player I ever said was special was Manu when he first came over. Watched lots of film of him at the time too.

All righty then.

[spurraider21]

Denmon hasn't progressed at all, has he

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Denmon hasn't progressed at all, has he

Started to write more, but it's easier just to say no, he hasn't.

[siraulo23]

George Hill shot 8% in Vegas.

im not worried about his shot

he's just not athletic enough to beat defenders off the dribble, so his bball iq/passing ability wont mean much offensively, on the defensive end he's gonna be a huge liability