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    Nazi Germany was completely defeated ... humiliated... bombed into rubble and dust. Germany today could have be just an agricultural nation if the Allies wanted it that way.

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    Nazi Germany was completely defeated ... humiliated... bombed into rubble and dust. Germany today could have be just an agricultural nation if the Allies wanted it that way.
    Marshall Plan was a self-serving project so Europe could buy US stuff to rebuild. NOT altruistic AT ALL.

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    Marshall Plan was a self-serving project so Europe could buy US stuff to rebuild. NOT altruistic AT ALL.
    Of course it was not altruistic.

    It was, however, genius. It also allowed us to buy their stuff. It was a fantastic economic maneuver.
    Compare this to what the Russians did with Eastern Europe... Tell me what worked?

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    It also allowed us to buy their stuff.

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    Marshall Plan was a self-serving project so Europe could buy US stuff to rebuild. NOT altruistic AT ALL.
    Didn't say it wasn't, but Allies could have could have stripped them of all industry. Probably wouldn't have one of the strongest economies in the world if the Allies had relegated them to a farm country.

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    Oh yeah I forgot, the Germans were horrible at producing things.
    Its pretty clear they had no idea how to manufacture products.

    Dumbass...

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    Nazi Germany was completely defeated ... humiliated... bombed into rubble and dust. Germany today could have be just an agricultural nation if the Allies wanted it that way.
    the fact that they didn't should tell you something..it means that they felt that they could trust the germans, hardly the big blood thirsty meanies that shekelstein shills you about

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    the fact that they didn't should tell you something..it means that they felt that they could trust the germans, hardly the big blood thirsty meanies that shekelstein shills you about
    No we did not. And should not have.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-969015.html

    But we did kick their butts so badly that we had to do something.
    Jesus, you pretend to be a GD nazi yet you don't keep up with anything.
    Hitler would have reduced incompetent fools like you to moving rocks.

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    Oh yeah I forgot, the Germans were horrible at producing things.
    Its pretty clear they had no idea how to manufacture products.

    Dumbass...
    After WWII, the European, esp German, industrial and agricultural basees was were way, way down, producing not enough for themselves, never mind selling to USA The Allies capped German steel production and dismantled over 1000 German factories.

    The Marshall Plan appx $500B 1945-1953 in loans and grants was for European reconstruction and for buying stuff from USA.
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    After WWI, the European, esp German, industrial and agricultural basees was were way, way down, producing not enough for themselves, never mind selling to USA The Allies capped German steel production and dismantled over 1000 German factories.

    The Marshall Plan appx $500B 1945-1953 in loans and grants was for European reconstruction and for buying stuff from USA.
    WWI...

    In Which war did you receive head wounds?

    Do you get the Marshall plan helped them revive their industry which we then bought from. Getting a country you have just destroyed does not do a damn thing if they can't make things to sell. All for them to buy US stuff? You are as bad as the nazi m>s.

    How the did the West Germans recover so quickly great boot head?
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    After WWII, the European, esp German, industrial and agricultural basees was were way, way down, producing not enough for themselves, never mind selling to USA The Allies capped German steel production and dismantled over 1000 German factories.

    The Marshall Plan appx $500B 1945-1953 in loans and grants was for European reconstruction and for buying stuff from USA.
    Boutons, you show your ignorance so often and you really did in this post. The Germans concentrated on exports, as well as all of Europe, and the UK. They used what they could salvage, including making toys from the G.I.'s beer cans and exporting them to the U.S. for hard currency. Do you know the real reason for the Marshall plan. Read some of your favorite literature, I am sure you can find some crying in the beer from you favorite political party, The Communist, how it defeated their efforts in Germany.

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    That's your bias coming to that conclusion.

    I am neither bashing Obama in this thread or excusing Bush.

    When will you ever take off your blinders?

    In review.

    Post #8:

    I didn't bash Obama, and i only pointed out factually he woprked from his ranch and camp David while the White House was being renovated. I did not assign the number of days he was working away from the office. Are you suggesting this is false?

    In post #27:

    Where did I bush Obama or Excuse Bush?

    In post 29:

    I pointed out we needed to know what criteria they were using to cons ute a "vacation."

    I said I will present evidence at a later date to the 70 some days I know are being counted as a vacation, but were not.

    I have actuality have supported Obama when people were making false allegations about him. I have actually bashed bush at times. I just do either so rarely here, because it is seldom that someone bashes Obama without cause, and it is seldom that the Bush bashing has merit.

    Please take your partisan blinders off.
    TLDR.


    Is there something in there that I should care about?

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    TLDR.


    Is there something in there that I should care about?
    I guess you'll never see it with those blinders on.

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