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    whats sad is we could have easily been off the hook on Daye... we knew we were stuck with Ayres, but keeping Daye was just dumb, given the precious amount of roster spots we had left.

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    Whatever man, this is a pointless argument.

    I know you're not really defending Daye himself. I don't know anybody that really could. Hes not a very good player no matter how you slice it.

    We have a disagreement on the numbers. Whatever. Lets just agree to disagree.

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    Not sure why there's any debate going on in regards to today's game. I agree with Darkwaters, Obstructed_View, & Mel_13. The coyote and the chump are just arguing for attention. Daye was terrible today and Ayres was worst. I don't think it's that big of a deal if they wind up on the opening day roster but I would rather see the development of Deshaun Thomas (& maybe) JaMychal Green if they had a chance to work with the coaching staff. Anderson isn't a mind-blowing player but he is so intriguing. He seems like he has more of the upside of being a tweener and with the Spurs system and coaching, might turn out to be a heck of a player. Of course, instead of Daye & Ayres, I much rather those spots go to Baynes & some other notable free agent (or David Bertans or even Bryce Cotton).

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    What I like about Deshaun Thomas is the combination of outside shooting and post game inside... For a scorer he's pretty damn complete... Imo he can keep this up he should def make the roaster, they shouldn't have garanteed Daye's deal...

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    What I like about Deshaun Thomas is the combination of outside shooting and post game inside... For a scorer he's pretty damn complete... Imo he can keep this up he should def make the roaster, they shouldn't have garanteed Daye's deal...


    i think we play the sixers twice though, so Daye can have a couple of solid games

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    What I like about Deshaun Thomas is the combination of outside shooting and post game inside... For a scorer he's pretty damn complete... Imo he can keep this up he should def make the roaster, they shouldn't have garanteed Daye's deal...
    As per the discussion earlier, it's possible that PATFO saw Daye's deal as small enough that guaranteeing it then waiving him later on would not be an issue.

    This is all speculation, of course.

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    To clarify....a player with a contract over a million, not the normal cheap guys they sign for weeks on end and eventually finalize.
    Thomas' contract was finalized. Not any practical difference between Thomas last season and Daye this season, if we're talking about waiving guaranteed contracts.

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    What's the rest of the Summer League schedule? How many games are left? Not sure if I want to pay the $5 to watch these guys play .

    Also, do they have a tournament or anything at the end of it?

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    None of these guys are ready for prime time and that's a telling sign for Ayres and Daye. Daye can't consistently hit shots when he's open and his cement shoes makes him a liability on the perimeter. Ayres is just total suck and garbage. Thomas has improved some since last year but still slow to get the ball off and still cement shoes. Kyle needs a year of work both in Austin and San Antonio and he'll probably be flip flopping back and forth throughout the year. Waiting on Baynes to resign that qualifying offer, hopefully Pop will give him more minutes if he does and if not then we need to go look at Ed Davis or a trade for some serviceable big. I was hoping Houston would drop Montejunas .

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    Whats most concerning is that if either Ayres or Daye were total unknowns that had just walked onto this SL team, neither of them would have moved my interest needle at all with their performances. They don't look in any way intriguing - probably not even worth a Training Camp invite (which is a small thing to give up).

    ...and these are two players that we owe significant guaranteed money to. Ayres signed a multi-year deal with a part of the MLE last year. Holy crap!

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    What's the rest of the Summer League schedule? How many games are left? Not sure if I want to pay the $5 to watch these guys play .

    Also, do they have a tournament or anything at the end of it?
    I just bought it on iTunes. I'll keep you guys posted.

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    What I like about Deshaun Thomas is the combination of outside shooting and post game inside... For a scorer he's pretty damn complete... Imo he can keep this up he should def make the roaster, they shouldn't have garanteed Daye's deal...
    I love those things about him. He's tough and has a good awareness of when to impose his will. Only trouble is he's got no game above the rim, which makes playing his position REALLY tough against the best athletes in the world. If he were bigger, he'd be a power forward everyone's talking about. If he wants to be an NBA player at his size, he's going to have to become elite at something, be it shooting or rebounding.

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    Whats most concerning is that if either Ayres or Daye were total unknowns that had just walked onto this SL team, neither of them would have moved my interest needle at all with their performances. They don't look in any way intriguing - probably not even worth a Training Camp invite (which is a small thing to give up).

    ...and these are two players that we owe significant guaranteed money to. Ayres signed a multi-year deal with a part of the MLE last year. Holy crap!
    Good news is he doesn't hurt anything being on the team. Used in spots, he absorbs minutes and does no real damage. Expensive? Probably, but not RJ expensive.

    Daye costs so little that, as a fan, I could give a . The Spurs are paying to see him in summer league. It's an electric bill to them. No biggie.

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    Daye costs so little that, as a fan, I could give a . The Spurs are paying to see him in summer league. It's an electric bill to them. No biggie.
    If I bought a ticket for that movie, I'd want my money back so far.

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    Jeff Ayres is a waste of a roster spot no matter how little he is getting paid. That fool should he cut and he should he flagged by every team to never play in the nba again.

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    Jeff Ayres is a waste of a roster spot no matter how little he is getting paid. That fool should be cut and he should he flagged by every team to never play in the nba again.
    I agree with this verbatem. Ed Davis >>> Jeff PenderAyers.

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    Anyone else liking the play of Morris?
    I'm beginning to watch him with interest. He can shoot.

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    If I bought a ticket for that movie, I'd want my money back so far.
    You don't get your money back for a ty movie you decided to see, you just leave the theater early.

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    At this point the unsigned SL players that have probably impressed the staff doing things they would probably be able to do in the NBA would be Green and Morris -- though both need to show more range on their shots.

    Cotton has enough raw talent to get in training camp and on the Toros.

    Thomas is a classic tweener which is a shame.

    I think Daye and Ayres' presence in SL is proof enough they are on the bubble, guaranteed money or not. It's just not that money and the Spurs are flush right now and seemingly anxious to get some cheap projects they can potentially keep into the cap space era next summer.

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    I'm beginning to watch him with interest. He can shoot.
    He was beyond awful against Cleveland. He certainly can't defend worth a .

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    You don't get your money back for a ty movie you decided to see, you just leave the theater early.
    That is why I always confer with IMDB before I go see any movie at the theater nowadays...

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    Daye keeps giving glimmers of raw talent which make me say, "Damn, He's 6'11 and if he could do that well and with consistency..." Like making a spin move from outside the arc and driving to the hoop--where he misses a defended short jumper. Or he picks up 9 rebounds in 28 mins without seeming to be in the mix under the basket.

    There's talent there--and that's what made him the 15th pick in the draft and intrigues coaches. I think every coach thinks he can mold him into a good NBA player.

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    That is why I always confer with IMDB before I go see any movie at the theater nowadays...
    Point is, the Spurs were willing to pay a little bit to see if Daye could play. He cain't. Not a huge loss.

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    Point is, the Spurs were willing to pay a little bit to see if Daye could play. He cain't. Not a huge loss.
    LOL Daye is straight up dollar movies...

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