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  1. #26
    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    When did Josh Mc Sox become such a coveted player?
    He was just terrible when he was a Lakers...Or am I thinking of the wrong guy?
    When James went home. Until that moment he was held beneath contempt.

  2. #27
    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    It's been a month dude. Heck even ezau is off that crack pipe. BTW aren't you a Cavs fan at heart?
    I never get over it.

    And I never defend my fandom. It's my religion.

  3. #28
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    The Heat are going to be a challenger for the 6-8 seeds, but they have virtually no chance at getting past the 1st round, and anybody that thinks they will be better than Cleveland is a ing moron..

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    I like that "King"James leaves and this team all of the sudden becomes a lottery team. If anyone actually watched the Heat play over the last 4 years, they are more than the sum of their parts. Granted losing James is huge, but retaining Bosh and Wade, plus Granger, McBob, Rio, et al will be still be a solid team and most likely will be better than the cavs as currently constructed. Health will play a factor for sure though. As the Spurs proved, consistency and teamwork can trump "names"...no reason the Heat can't be successful.
    Idiot.

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    How quickly we forget but Wade looked good in the ECF against Indy (way better than last year) and through the first half of game 1 against you guys. Then he fell off like something I've never seen. I think he needs to get leaner and improve his conditioning. He had nothing left on either end. We also definitely need another 2 to shoulder some of his minutes. I don't think he holds any ill will towards James, but I think the general perception that that's all she wrote for Three will fuel him next year. Playing with the best player in the world caused some laziness and complacency, health issues aside.

    He might even make Bron jump ship again when he dunks on Varejao again. Kidding on the last part


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    Wanted: Dead or Alive Cowboys_Wear_Spurs's Avatar
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    Its the Eastern Conference, where anything is possible.

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    The Heat are going to be a challenger for the 6-8 seeds, but they have virtually no chance at getting past the 1st round, and anybody that thinks they will be better than Cleveland is a ing moron..
    They can't beat the Cavs or the Bulls and shouldn't beat Indy (but who knows with that club), but everyone else is fair game. The Wizards are more talented on paper I think but they're still young even with what's left of the Truth.

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    I think this Heat team can still get into the top 4. Really depends on how quickly Cleveland meshes and some of there young pieces grow up. Indiana and Chicago are wild cards. What kind of changes will Indiana make? Chicago - what will Derrick Rose return as? Will he stay healthy?

    Toronto make things difficult in the east. Washington will be compe ive. Brooklyn will slide. New York, not sure, probably not much better. I think Charlotte has improved some.

    I think the east teams are still, overall, weaker than the west. But there will be more parity between the east teams. Last season you arguably had Miami and Indiana on top, then everyone else. As the season bore out, Indiana really took a step back and fell into the ECF.... I think this season, you won't have any true great teams in the east. Its good for compe ion.

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    Believe. Malik Hairston's Avatar
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    They can't beat the Cavs or the Bulls and shouldn't beat Indy (but who knows with that club), but everyone else is fair game. The Wizards are more talented on paper I think but they're still young even with what's left of the Truth.
    One of the major problems with the Heat is that they're going to continue resting Wade during the regular season, and they don't have a suitable backup or alternative options..this is going to cost them regular season matchups, so there's a good chance they're going to finish 6-7-8 and get Cleveland or Chicago in the 1st round, tbh..

    Then there's the obvious adjustment of re-shaping the entire system..Miami is going to overhaul the entire system, as they don't have anybody that can run their spacing/corner 3s system like LeCoon did..then there's the addition of Deng, an ISO-oriented wing scorer that isn't a playmaker, which is a tough style of play to incorporate in your system that emphasizes ball-movement/open 3s..

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    You're much too kind. Across the nation Bryant is mirroring that protocol and he's being ripped apart and called every name in the book for it.

    You can go straight to and take little snot nose CN there with you.
    For once I agree with thread

  11. #36
    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
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    No, Wade ed himself over by opting out in the first place and by being such a lazy, washed-up TOSB in the Finals....
    Truth. No one forced his ass to opt out. He's expected to make a grown man move and he did. Blame is on him.

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    I think heat will surprise some people they will be close or pat riley will try to do trades and get them to contend
    can bosh be the main guy not the 3 wheel like he was?
    heat are going to try to prove next year that they are good and can win without james
    all the players relied on james to much and the coach did to
    without james bailing everyone out who knows what they will do east is wide open

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    We've got a job to do. Darth_Pelican's Avatar
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    http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miam...act-miami-heat

    Dwyane Wade staying with Heat

    Updated: July 15, 2014, 2:29 PM ET
    By Brian Windhorst | ESPN.com

    Dwyane Wade has agreed to a new long-term contract with the Miami Heat and is expected to finalize it as early as Tuesday, sources told ESPN.com.
    Wade took to Twitter on Tuesday to announce the agreement:

    With the Heat's recent moves, including getting commitments from Chris Bosh, Luol Deng and Chris Andersen and signing Josh McRoberts, Mario Chalmers and Danny Granger, the Heat have positioned themselves to give Wade a contract that starts at about $15 million per season. Wade is expected to sign for up to four years.
    Wade played just 54 regular-season games last season as he dealt with various knee injuries and the Heat often held him out to rest him. He averaged 19 points, 4.5 rebounds and 4.7 assists on a career-high 55 percent shooting. He averaged 17.8 points during the playoffs.
    Wade is taking roughly a $5 million pay cut from the two years and $42 million he opted out of to become a free agent last month. He will make it up by getting more long-term money.
    His pay cut, the second time in his career he's taken less to help the Heat, helped free up money to give Bosh a full five-year, $118 million max contract and Deng a two-year $20 million deal.

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    coffee is for closers Infinite_limit's Avatar
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    i agree, simply put, Danny Green is a better player than him at this point, doesn't mean he can't hold the #2 spot for sgs and be productive...
    are you ing re ed? If all 30 teams had to choose between Danny Green and Wade at this point, I bet all 30 of them would pick Wade.

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    you're a phony Holden_Caulfield's Avatar
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    aww cant sign lebron when he becomes a free agent again

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    are you ing re ed? If all 30 teams had to choose between Danny Green and Wade at this point, I bet all 30 of them would pick Wade.
    why couldn't he play against him then?

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    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    I wonder if its a front loaded contract like splitters

  19. #44
    PRESSURE MAKES DIAMONDS
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    praying for James, Wade, and Bosh to take pay cuts so they can reload

    losing James

    Overpaying Bosh and Wade

    Alpha Bosh

    Shabazz

    Granger

    McBob

    Hard to believe that two months ago, some people were penciling this team down for another championship.


    Wade shouldn't have gotten a penny more than 7m a year!

    Bosh shouldn't have gotten a dollar over 11m per year!

    Should have let them both walk,

    and rebuild, dummies!

    As soon as Lebron left,

    should have been all hardball from there.

    The Heat will be lucky to get

    the 5th seed,

    IN THE EAST,

    WITH BOSH AND WADE

    AS 1A AND 1B!

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    He should have gotten 7 to 10..but its whatever. The Miami Heat are done with what they offered Bosh. Its like they're not cutting themselves so deep the second time..but still cutting themselves none the less.

  21. #46
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    I know that wade made his own decision to opt out of the $40 million over 2 years but The heat completely ed him over. So much for sacrificing for the good of the team.

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    Wade's game and LeBron's overlaps, Wade will take more FGA this season, while Deng will get more a more defensive role in that team with Bosh being the franshise player. I don't think they will slip in the regular season, but may have difficulty advancing in the playoffs as Wade is past his prime and Bosh isn't unstoppable.

  23. #48
    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
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    Update
    2 yr $31 mil

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    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
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    2 yr $31 mil

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    anything over 1 year and they're overpaying him at that point

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