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    Oh, Dear! RG wont be happy about this, there is no scientific facts in your article.......tsk....tsk.... Damn global warming.
    Xray's back bedroom is cold right now...

    This climate stuff is just silly when you have data right in your house.

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    Xray's back bedroom is cold right now...

    This climate stuff is just silly when you have data right in your house.
    Well, it's mid July and only 69F outside with 70% humidity.

    At least my dehumidifier has it down to 52% in the house.

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    Well, it's mid July and only 69F outside with 70% humidity.

    At least my dehumidifier has it down to 52% in the house.
    Well it's hot as here.

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    Well it's hot as here.
    It should be warmer than it has been all year. Funny, because these last two years have been more humid. water is a greenhouse gas and suppose to warm farther.

    Oh well, guess the warmers are wrong.

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    It should be warmer than it has been all year. Funny, because these last two years have been more humid. water is a greenhouse gas and suppose to warm farther.

    Oh well, guess the warmers are wrong.
    Good use of extensive world wide data microcosm man.

    And you are not very aware of the huge number of properties water has depending on drop size, heat of vaporization/ pressure in diff. situations.. But keep convincing yourself you know climate.

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    Good use of extensive world wide data microcosm man.

    Meh, we're on year 18 of statistically insignificant global temp change

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    Good use of extensive world wide data microcosm man.

    And you are not very aware of the huge number of properties water has depending on drop size, heat of vaporization/ pressure in diff. situations.. But keep convincing yourself you know climate.
    Problem is, these warmer places seem to elude everyone. We all an average null...

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    Climate science denier group must pay damages for frivolous lawsuit against UVA, scientist

    Virginia's highest court has ruled that the American Tradition Ins ute (ATI), a free-market think tank that promotes climate science denial, must pay damages to the University of Virginia and former professor Michael Mann for filing a frivolous lawsuit against them. The decision comes in a case that has sparked controversy about the abuse of public records laws to harass climate scientists.

    Mann, who now directs Penn State's Earth Systems Science Center, has been a target of climate science deniers for his research showing that the recent e in global temperatures -- the so-called "hockey stick" graph -- is linked to the burning of fossil fuels. A Facing South investigation found that ATI had connections to fossil-fuel interests.

    The group, which last year changed its name to the Energy & Environment Legal Ins ute(EELI), is a spin-off of the American Tradition Partnership, a dark-money group that has been embroiled in campaign finance controversies.

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    Problem is, these warmer places seem to elude everyone. We all an average null...
    Who is everyone?

    Average null... Nope.

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    Meh, we're on year 18 of statistically insignificant global temp change
    Lets see your study?

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    So could you send this to SA ASAP?
    We might get a little cooler midweek because of it but not much. It's supposed to be a side effect of Super Typhoon Neoguri .

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    They always get things wrong.

    Maybe they should start studying real science instead of political science.

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    Thank God!

    Global warming has returned!

    All these tall fur trees surrounding me, and it hit 97 F today at my place, in the shade!

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    Thank God!

    Global warming has returned!

    All these tall fur trees surrounding me, and it hit 97 F today at my place, in the shade!
    Thats what they said in Yellowstone 1988.
    Do you like your bread toasted?

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    Australia repeals maligned 2-year-old carbon tax

    SYDNEY (AP) - Australia's government repealed a much-maligned carbon tax on the nation's worst greenhouse gas polluters on Thursday, ending years of contention over a measure that became political poison for the lawmakers who imposed it.

    The Senate voted 39 to 32 to axe the 24.15 Australian dollar ($22.60) tax per metric ton of carbon dioxide that was introduced by the center-left Labor government in July 2012. Conservative lawmakers burst into applause as the final tally was announced.

    Prime Minister Tony Abbott's conservative coalition government rose to power last year on the promise of getting rid of the tax, assuring voters that removing it would reduce household electricity bills. He plans to replace the measure with a taxpayer-financed AU$2.55 billion fund to pay industry incentives to use cleaner energy.

    "Today, the tax that you voted to get rid of is finally gone: a useless, destructive tax which damaged jobs, which hurt families' cost of living and which didn't actually help the environment," Abbott told reporters in Canberra.

    Australia is one of the world's worst greenhouse gas emitters per capita, largely because of its heavy reliance on the nation's vast reserves of cheap coal for electricity.

    Opposition leader Bill Shorten lashed out at Abbott after the vote, dubbing him an "environmental vandal."

    "Today, Tony Abbott has made Australia the first country in the world to reverse action on climate change," Shorten told reporters. "History will judge Tony Abbott very harshly for refusing to believe in genuine action on climate change. Tony Abbott is sleepwalking Australia to an environmental and economic disaster."

    The carbon tax, charged to about 350 of Australia's biggest carbon polluters, was controversial from the start. Former Prime Minister Julia Gillard had initially vowed not to introduce a tax on carbon emissions. But after her Labor party was elected in 2010, she needed the support of the minor Greens party to form a government — and the Greens wanted a carbon tax. Gillard agreed, infuriating a public that viewed the measure's imposition as a broken promise.

    Labor's popularity plummeted, particularly when consumers saw their power bills soar. In reality, the tax accounted for a relatively small portion of that increase, but many blamed it for the hike nonetheless.

    Desperate to improve its standing with the public, Labor replaced Gillard with previous Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, who promised to get rid of the tax and transition it earlier than planned to a cap-and-trade scheme, which would have significantly lowered the per-ton carbon price.

    But it proved too little, too late. Abbott's party swept to power in last year's elections by vowing to get rid of the tax for good.

    The prime minister said families will be AU$550 a year better off now that the tax is gone.

    Big businesses and industry groups across Australia rallied behind the tax's abolition, including the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, which dubbed the levy a dead weight on the economy.

    "It really did impact on the compe iveness of many Australian businesses and of course it put up the price of power," the group's CEO Kate Carnell said. "So it's a good step forward for compe iveness and also for employment in Australia."

    In a fiery speech ahead of Thursday's vote, Sen. Christine Milne, leader of the Greens, called it an "appalling day for Australia."

    "A vote for the abolition of the clean energy package is a vote for failure," she said. "If this parliament votes to abandon the clean energy package, you are voting against the best interests of the nation."

    Environmental groups called the tax's repeal an international embarrassment.

    "It's a very sad day because it was working, this carbon price," said Australian Conservation Foundation CEO Kelly O'Shanassy. "Our government has failed Australians and they need to go and look their kids and their grandkids in the eye and tell them why — why — they are unwinding laws that will protect people in this country from climate change."
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    Meh, we're on year 18 of statistically insignificant global temp change
    Everyone note that now Darrin says its not warming. Sophist piece of that he is.

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    "the tax accounted for a relatively small portion of that increase, but many blamed it for the hike nonetheless."

    BigCarbon suckers and shills, conservatives everywhere, got NOTHING but propaganda and LIES (and $$$ from BigCarbon).





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    Everyone note that now Darrin says its not warming. Sophist piece of that he is.
    Maybe you should write a strongly-worded letter to every climate scientist that acknowledges "the pause".


    You can start by writing to sophist piece of , IPCC.

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    Maybe you should write a strongly-worded letter to every climate scientist that acknowledges "the pause".


    You can start by writing to sophist piece of , IPCC.
    I am pointing out your cognitive dissonance. If you cannot see it then that is kind of the point too. Expected and all.

    There is a difference between what climate scientists do when commenting on this subject and what you are doing here. Just a little one.

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    California Sets Sizzling Record for 2014 So Far



    California just finished the hottest first half year on record, a period going back 120 years, according to the national climate overview for June released by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

    The statewide average temperature for the period was 58°F, or 4.8°F above the 20th century average. That bests the previous warmest January-June in 1934 by 1.1°F — a substantial difference, said Jake Crouch, a climate scientist with NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center.


    The record exemplifies a temperature pattern that has held across the country for much of the year, with above-average temperatures in the West and below average in the East. The pattern has kept monthly average temperatures for the entire U.S.—as well as the average temperature for the year-to-date—in the middle of the pack record-wise, but has contributed to the stunning drought that has propagated across California.


    And though temperatures across the U.S. as a whole haven’t set any records this year, the global average has been a different story. The year through May was the fifth warmest on record, according to NOAA data, which ranked May as the warmest on record, as did NASA and the Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA). Preliminary NASA data suggests that June 2014 will come in as the third warmest June on record, while the JMA ranks it as the warmest in their temperature records. (Different agencies process temperature data using slightly different methods, but the differences between rankings are very small.)


    NOAA expects its global data for June, which will be released on July 21, to be “in the same ballpark” as the NASA and JMA rankings, Jessica Blunden, a climate scientist with ERT, Inc., and a NOAA contractor who helps write the monthly reports, said in an email.


    With an El Niño expected to develop late this summer or in the fall, there is a chance that 2014 could move into the spot as the warmest year on record, though the climate phenomenon’s effects are generally most pronounced in the colder months, so the boost it gives to global temperatures could be reserved for 2015.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...r-2014-so-far/



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    Faux Pause 3: More Evidence Global Surface Temperatures Poised To Rise Rapidly







    Lead author Prof. Matthew England explained in a news release:

    “Scientists have long suspected that extra ocean heat uptake has slowed the rise of global average temperatures, but the mechanism behind the hiatus remained unclear…. But the heat uptake is by no means permanent: when the trade wind strength returns to normal –- as it inevitably will –- our research suggests heat will quickly ac ulate in the atmosphere. So global temperatures look set to rise rapidly out of the hiatus, returning to the levels projected within as little as a decade.”

    What that study found is that temperatures are likely to jump in the coming years since “the net effect of these anomalous winds is a cooling in the 2012 global average surface air temperature of 0.1–0.2°C.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...-temperatures/

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    Lol, TP

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