Do you understand it? I think Udoka is handling the rotations very well so far.
The question is do you? I don't need to see players who've presumably already made the roster, take developmental time/minutes away from players who need to showcase their skills for a chance at a camp invite either with the Spurs or another team.. Ayres and Daye have a roster spot in waiting. Winning SL games is secondary to development.
I'm not sure Udoka is in charge of player minutes on this squad.
I don't need to see players that have already failed countless times at the NBA level trying to dominate in SL.
That's what I mean. The SL is to develop players on the roster. It's not to showcase players who aren't going to get a spot. Daye, Ayres and Anderson are being rightfully featured, and team prospects like Cotton, Denmon and Thomas are getting the next level of minutes. That's how it's supposed to work. And Udoka is even rewarding players who exceed expectations like Morris and Green by giving them a lot of time as well. , Darius even started.
Udoka is doing exactly what he's supposed to.
It doesn't matter who/what you want to see. Obviously Pop and RC want to see these guys, and that's why they're there.
It may be that they want to showcase Daye and Ayers for a future 2 for 1 trade.
That would open a spot on the roster for Green.
Can you tell me how many minutes were lost due to Anderson's foul trouble? And, if you don't play your veteran guys for stability, given the loss of Anderson, how many minutes would be lost for the new players if they got bounced from the tourney?
I agree. Even having him parked on the baseline will be far more productive when he has a team full of guys who actually pass the ball that direction. The only one I see making those passes is Kyle.
Anyone else noticing the crawl on NBATV has completely wrong stats for the Spurs game?
I've changed my mind on Green. He's a really good athlete with a great motor, but he can't shoot and he's not actually a good defender. He's gotten blown by more often than Anderson by inferior players.
Daye's new nickname is "mini mamba", tbh.
Well, I think it does. IIRC, Leonard only played in 2/5 summer league games in 2012. I'm not sure a couple of failed NBA players are going to show much resolve in SL. If anything, it's showing that Ayres isn't an NBA caliber player and Daye is nothing more than end of the bench fodder with an inconsistent to bad jump shot. I used the word "presumably" in my post with the hopes those two would be pushed by other summer league invites. Don't get caught up in the numbers. They've stuck up the joint. They really don't have much more to prove other than, not being very good at their job.
Yeah, I was thinking about that. I'm curious about Thomas though. I think he has shown enough over the last two years to say he'll get a spot on an NBA team this season. I don't think he'll allow himself to get stashed again.
So the Spurs have three options. They can let him go to camp and waive him in hopes he makes it to the d-league. They can make room for him on the roster by getting rid of Ayres/Daye/Baynes. Or they can try to get an asset for his rights. It's going to be interesting to see what happens.
Yeah that 5/15 statline was pure kirby
Kawhi hurt his wrist and they sent him home, if memory serves. I've said this in other places, but Ayres plays much more conservatively when he's on the Spurs because his job is just to fill time for his teammates to get some rest.
This is the summer league and you're talking about veteran guys. Neither Daye or Ayres are stabilizers. Daye is playing his own little game trying to dominate and takeover at a level and against compe ion he can compete against. What does Anderson's foul trouble have to do with anything?
It's just the constantly jacking up jumpers, particularly threes. Of course he gets assists because eventually nobody thinks he's going to pass the ball.
I really like DT as a basketball player. I think if he develops a legit three pointer, he can have an NBA career. Like I've said before, he's going to have to become elite at something to make up for his deficiencies, and his jumper is not far off. If the Spurs are really looking for someone to hit that corner three, maybe he's the best prospect on the SL team.
First, it doesn't matter if you don't like it. That doesn't stop it from being the point of summer league. Leonard only played two games because he was a starter on a team that made it to the WCF. The team had a plan for him to get a few reps as the first option. Meanwhile, Joseph played the whole league for both that and the next summers.
Ask yourself this: Do you see any other teams who are using their rotations how you want them to? Because I don't. I see everyone doing exactly what Udoka os doing.
I mean I'd just like him as an Ayres replacement. "Can't shoot and not a very good defender" is a description that fits Ayres as well. Only difference is that Green seems to have a much better motor and rebounding skills. I'd imagine he has better hands as well considering Ayres has some of the worst hands out of any NBA player I've ever seen.
I'll admit though...me wanting Green is more about how bad Ayres is rather than how good Green is
I understand the frustration with Ayres, but he's a much better defender than anyone on this Spurs' team. He's done more things right than wrong so far this summer, but consider the compe ion. You have to think Matt Bonner would be close to a double double in the same minutes. I'm getting tired of saying I'm glad he's got this chance to play without judgment or punishment and try to improve his game, because he's likely stuck here for this season.I mean I'd just like him as an Ayres replacement. "Can't shoot and not a very good defender" is a description that fits Ayres as well. Only difference is that Green seems to have a much better motor and rebounding skills. I'd imagine he has better hands as well considering Ayres has some of the worst hands out of any NBA player I've ever seen.
I'll admit though...me wanting Green is more about how bad Ayres is rather than how good Green is
I'm with you in that it's better for Ayres to get this opportunity to improve his game but at some point PATFO have to realize he is who he is: a bad recommendation from Boylen. If they can find a better alternative, hopefully they can cut their losses with him.
Like it or not, they are a veteran influence running the offense and anchoring the D. Even though I am in agreement with everyone else about Ayres, he knows the system. He's not good at executing it. But, he knows it. Daye had a much better second half. He wasn't trying to dominate anyone hitting the floor securing steals. And, without his second half, they don't bide time as well until Anderson gets back in, helping them to the win. Without the win, they get bounced, and the other scrubs don't get to play any more, which was the whole premise of your ing about Udoka in the first place, that he wasn't getting the "other guys" enough minutes. In Anderson's absence, in a tight game, he played the guys that had the best chance of securing them the win to get to the next round so that you can see more of your "other guys". You should be thanking him.
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I look at Daye like Green a couple years ago.
A talented player who underperformed his draft position.
He needs a come to Jesus moment like Green had when both Pop and Roy Williams told him his future was in the balance.
Daye has as much or more potential than Green.
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