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    It is relevant because I need to know what you know in order for me to answer.
    It does not matter to me if you believe or not.
    I just need to know what Jesus said about "life after death" after He came back from the dead, you know when, the Resurrection.
    You said you studied this stuff and that is supposed to be one of the most important parts of the Christian faith.
    So I am asking you to tell me what you know of what He said, so I can answer your question in a way that neither of us can become confused.
    Simple as that.

    He can't as stated above -

    also -

    if he answers - then he can't troll you - and he can be trolled by other trolls -


    this is terrifying to pussy trolls.

    "oh my - I was trolled - eeeeek!"

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    He can't as stated above -

    also -

    if he answers - then he can't troll you - and he can be trolled by other trolls -


    this is terrifying to pussy trolls.

    "oh my - I was trolled - eeeeek!"
    That doesn't make any sense

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    It is relevant because I need to know what you know in order for me to answer.
    It does not matter to me if you believe or not.
    I just need to know what Jesus said about "life after death" after He came back from the dead, you know when, the Resurrection.
    You said you studied this stuff and that is supposed to be one of the most important parts of the Christian faith.
    So I am asking you to tell me what you know of what He said, so I can answer your question in a way that neither of us can become confused.
    Simple as that.
    No, my knowledge of the Bible has nothing to do with your belief.

    You're just chicken to state your belief because you're afraid I'm going to laugh at you for it.

    It's as simple as that.

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    No, my knowledge of the Bible has nothing to do with your belief.

    You're just chicken to state your belief because you're afraid I'm going to laugh at you for it.

    It's as simple as that.
    No, it does make a difference.
    If you cannot tell me what you know then we cannot establish any bounderies or guidelines so that there can be no misunderstandings. And it most likely means that you know absolutely nothing about it which would make it a one sided discussion or debate.
    Do you understand?
    I fully intend to answer your question. And I fully realize that you will probably belittle me for it, try to put me down, laugh, etc. but I don't care if you do that because it will not bother me at all.
    But first you have to tell me what you think you know about it so I can give you a response based on what you think you know so that you will be able to understand what I am saying.
    Do you understand?
    At this point, you have no grounds to say anything because you do not know what I believe about it. If you make fun of me BEFORE you know my answer, then it will just make you look like an arrogant yet ignorant fool.
    And we would not want others to think that about you, right?
    So kindly answer my question to you so that I can answer yours to me.

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    Since you cannot answer the question, then it must be because you do not know anything about it.
    Have you ever heard of it, the Resurrection? Have you ever heard of Easter?
    Did you know most Christian faiths are based on it?
    I am surprised that this very basic tenet is something you know nothing about or that you have never learned about.
    So if I tried to explain what I believe about it, it would just go sailing way over your head, you would have no basis of reference and thus no conception of it whatsoever.
    No big deal, a lot of people don't know about this, so do not be embarrassed, or ashamed that you were probably sick that week and missed those crucial lessons.

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    I never said anything about "hearing voices in my head".
    But I thought I explained this pretty thoroughly.
    You have to quiet your inner dialog. Don't you understand this?
    This is not rocket science.
    Did you actually spend 10 minutes on that video? It pretty much addressed the reasoning behind why your assertion is irrational, and why such a belief is ultimately delusional.

    It is quick, and concise.

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    Since you cannot answer the question, then it must be because you do not know anything about it.
    Have you ever heard of it, the Resurrection? Have you ever heard of Easter?
    Did you know most Christian faiths are based on it?
    I am surprised that this very basic tenet is something you know nothing about or that you have never learned about.
    So if I tried to explain what I believe about it, it would just go sailing way over your head, you would have no basis of reference and thus no conception of it whatsoever.
    No big deal, a lot of people don't know about this, so do not be embarrassed, or ashamed that you were probably sick that week and missed those crucial lessons.

    The entire troll existence is based on never giving out information, discussing anything from their side and only inquiring about your side so they can continue to troll.

    Anything coming from their "troll minds" is too terrifying to reveal - because other trolls would have an opening - and they cannot afford this.


    Thousands and thousands of posts and years and years of absolutely nothing.

    Dare to dream big and be a troll yourself!




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    No, it does make a difference.
    If you cannot tell me what you know then we cannot establish any bounderies or guidelines so that there can be no misunderstandings. And it most likely means that you know absolutely nothing about it which would make it a one sided discussion or debate.
    Do you understand?
    I fully intend to answer your question. And I fully realize that you will probably belittle me for it, try to put me down, laugh, etc. but I don't care if you do that because it will not bother me at all.
    But first you have to tell me what you think you know about it so I can give you a response based on what you think you know so that you will be able to understand what I am saying.
    Do you understand?
    I'm not debating you. I'm just asking your belief.

    Do you understand?

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    It is relevant because I need to know what you know in order for me to answer.
    It does not matter to me if you believe or not.
    I just need to know what Jesus said about "life after death" after He came back from the dead, you know when, the Resurrection.
    You said you studied this stuff and that is supposed to be one of the most important parts of the Christian faith.
    So I am asking you to tell me what you know of what He said, so I can answer your question in a way that neither of us can become confused.
    Simple as that.
    Well, first off, I don't think "Jesus" said anything. I reject the assertion that the bible is an historical, accurate account of "Jesus", and only barely assign as more likely than not the possibility of his actual existence in the first place.


    When one goes actually hunting for evidence of Jesus with an open mind, and even a modest standard of evidence, one is surprised at one finds.


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    Best guess as to the origins of Yahweh, is that he spring out of pantheon of other gods, themselves derived from Babylonian pantheons.

    Look outside of Christianity, and put it in the context of the other religions of the time.


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    After you really start reading the bible for the ed up bits, you recognize just how ridiculous it all is...


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    The entire troll existence is based on never giving out information, discussing anything from their side and only inquiring about your side so they can continue to troll.

    Anything coming from their "troll minds" is too terrifying to reveal - because other trolls would have an opening - and they cannot afford this.


    Thousands and thousands of posts and years and years of absolutely nothing.

    Dare to dream big and be a troll yourself!



    Sure, I understand this. However there are lots and lots of things that blake does not understand, or so he has told us so many times, that what we have said makes no sense to him.
    He should not be ashamed of this, but I suspect he is.
    I do not care what it is that he BELIEVES, or what he thinks I believe, or even what he THINKS he knows about the subject.
    In any case, I will answer his question once I know what he thinks he knows or what he thinks he has learned.
    He is the one who claimed he studied it a long time ago. If this was the truth, he should have no problem telling me what he learned about it so that there can be no confusion.
    Maybe he forgot what they taught him, or maybe he wasn't telling the truth and knows absolutely nothing, or maybe, and most likely, he did not understand what they told him and that it went right over his head because he did not have the mental capacity to understand it, or maybe your reason is the true reason he cannot answer the question.
    Whatever the case may be, I am ready to answer his question as soon as he answers mine because logically one cannot happen before the other.

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    I'm not debating you. I'm just asking your belief.

    Do you understand?

    I understand fully. Do you? That is the question.
    And your original question was not "what do I believe"!
    Do you even remember what your question was to me, or do I need to go and quote it for you?
    That is okay, I can go do that if it will help clarify it for you so you can answer my question.
    And I know this is not a debate, it is a discussion, but I threw the "debate" word in there just in case you were already confused because your responses sounded like you were.


    Best guess as to the origins of Yahweh, is that he spring out of pantheon of other gods, themselves derived from Babylonian pantheons.

    Look outside of Christianity, and put it in the context of the other religions of the time.

    I like where you are taking this, but allow me to answer blakes' question first so that there is no confusion.
    First he needs to answer mine, if he can.

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    It goes waaaay further.


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    It goes waaaay further.

    Random, I would love to get back involved in where you are taking this because it is sincerely intriguing, honestly.
    And I really like where you are going with this, plus it is am extention of what we were discussing before.
    But I am in the middle of a discussion with blake that has not reached it's conclusion yet because he asked me "what I, and others (you guys) believe will happen when we die?'.
    And I need his answer to my question before I can answer his.

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    I understand fully. Do you? That is the question.
    And your original question was not "what do I believe"!
    Do you even remember what your question was to me, or do I need to go and quote it for you?
    That is okay, I can go do that if it will help clarify it for you so you can answer my question.
    And I know this is not a debate, it is a discussion, but I threw the "debate" word in there just in case you were already confused because your responses sounded like you were.




    I like where you are taking this, but allow me to answer blakes' question first so that there is no confusion.
    First he needs to answer mine, if he can.
    Sure, quote my original question.

    Sometime in the next ten posts unless you're scared.

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    Random, I would love to get back involved in where you are taking this because it is sincerely intriguing, honestly.
    And I really like where you are going with this, plus it is am extention of what we were discussing before.
    But I am in the middle of a discussion with blake that has not reached it's conclusion yet because he asked me "what I, and others (you guys) believe will happen when we die?'.
    And I need his answer to my question before I can answer his.
    No probs sorry to butt in.

    I will go play some Civ IV and listen to news.

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    So what do you guys think will happen when you die?

    Heaven, , reincarnation, non-existence.....?
    There you go, blake.
    I have no idea why you keep thinking I am scared. This is one of the responses that convinces me you are confused.

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    Now can you answer my question, Blake?


    EDIT: Or are you avoiding it, or just busy?
    Last edited by xmas1997; 07-21-2014 at 08:00 PM.

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    There you go, blake.
    I have no idea why you keep thinking I am scared. This is one of the responses that convinces me you are confused.
    There's no confusion. It's a simple question. You don't need me to know anything but English to talk about your thoughts on the afterlife. If it helps, just assume I know what you think I need to know.

    If you're not gonna answer, you may as well go back to your conversation with RG.

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    Now can you answer my question, Blake?


    EDIT: Or are you avoiding it, or just busy?
    Your questions are ridiculous.

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    Your questions are ridiculous.
    I am happy to answer your question, but why are you evading mine?
    Could it be because you can't?
    I guess that is the case.
    Once you give me a competent answer so I know that you know what you are talking about, then you will have my answer.
    Until then, I and most here will know you never had any intention of having a discussion on a subject that the reality is that you know nothing about.
    Pretty simple really.
    There is no shame in that.
    You can admit it now.

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    There's no confusion. It's a simple question. You don't need me to know anything but English to talk about your thoughts on the afterlife. If it helps, just assume I know what you think I need to know.

    If you're not gonna answer, you may as well go back to your conversation with RG.
    I told you my condition for answering you.
    Namely your answer to one simple question is all it takes.
    And after which you will have my answer.
    Or you can simply admit that you really don't know anything about the subject.
    There is no shame in that either.
    You really don't know anything about this, do you?
    You were posing all along.
    That is fine too.

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    The entire troll existence is based on never giving out information, discussing anything from their side and only inquiring about your side so they can continue to troll.

    Anything coming from their "troll minds" is too terrifying to reveal - because other trolls would have an opening - and they cannot afford this.


    Thousands and thousands of posts and years and years of absolutely nothing.

    Dare to dream big and be a troll yourself!



    Well, SBM, it appears you have been proven correct in your assessment.
    Blake knows absolutely nothing about the subject of God yet poses that he does, and just wants to troll as you say.
    He claimed he was taught the bible years ago, but cannot answer the most basic question of all concerning Christianity, the Resurrection and what Christ said comes after you die.
    This is the most basic tenet of the faith.
    It is a simple question too.
    How can anyone have a discussion about something when one of the parties knows nothing at all about it?
    It becomes a lecture in that case. You may as well have a discussion with a rock, as far as discussions go.
    But this does lead to another question, if one does not believe something even though he knows nothing about it, then how can he KNOW that that something does not exist?
    Last edited by xmas1997; 07-21-2014 at 11:42 PM.

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    Blake, I'm still waiting for your answer, so I can answer your question.

    There is no shame in never really studying the bible like you said you did.

    It is okay to go ahead and admit that you don't know anything about the subject.

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