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    I never said you did, but thank you for clearly stating your reasons for preparing to kill someone every night.

    So defensive.
    Yes, I am prepared to kill someone who is trying to harm or kill me in my home, without a doubt. Being prepared does not mean I live in fear, I sleep well at night. Are you not prepared to kill someone if they are trying to kill you?

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    In what way am I actively preparing to be killed?

    Be specific.
    You may not be actively doing anything but you are locking your doors so obviously you are afraid of intruders. You brought up being murdered in your home so obviously it is something you think about and fear. I just don't understand why you are living in fear of being murdered and yet even more afraid of having the means to defend yourself.

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    Yes, I am prepared to kill someone who is trying to harm or kill me in my home, without a doubt. Being prepared does not mean I live in fear, I sleep well at night. Are you not prepared to kill someone if they are trying to kill you?
    “It's a good feeling, you know, to shoot a bad guy. Something you Democrats would never understand. Americans... we're homesteaders, we want a safe home, keep the money we make, and shoot bad guys.”
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    You might as well have quoted Stephen Colbert.

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    You might as well have quoted Stephen Colbert.
    I just watched that episode last night. Couldn't help but post it.

    http://www.imdb.com/ le/tt0530522/?ref_=ttep_ep10

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    Yes, I am prepared to kill someone who is trying to harm or kill me in my home, without a doubt. Being prepared does not mean I live in fear, I sleep well at night. Are you not prepared to kill someone if they are trying to kill you?
    By definition it's living in an amount of fears if you actively prepare to kill someone every night.

    It's not a big deal.

    You may not be actively doing anything but you are locking your doors so obviously you are afraid of intruders. You brought up being murdered in your home so obviously it is something you think about and fear. I just don't understand why you are living in fear of being murdered and yet even more afraid of having the means to defend yourself.
    I never said I was afraid to have a gun, and the fact I don't lock my door when I'm at home half the time must mean I am less fearful than those who are arming themselves every night.

    Why are gun folk afraid to admit they are afraid?

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    By definition it's living in an amount of fears if you actively prepare to kill someone every night.

    It's not a big deal.
    Because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true, I don't live in fear, I am prepared to deal with a threat against me if it ever happens. It's funny how you keep saying gun owners all live in fear when I can guarantee you're the guy who crosses the street when a group of black guys is walking on the side as you.

    And I'll ask you again since you dodged the question earlier, are you willing to kill someone if they are trying to kill you?

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    Because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true, I don't live in fear, I am prepared to deal with a threat against me if it ever happens. It's funny how you keep saying gun owners all live in fear when I can guarantee you're the guy who crosses the street when a group of black guys is walking on the side as you.
    Nah. Why would I? We're just walking down the street.

    Of course you live in fear. There is no reason to arm yourself every night if you aren't living in fear.

    And I'll ask you again since you dodged the question earlier, are you willing to kill someone if they are trying to kill you?
    sure. I just don't live in fear of that every day of my life like you demonstrably do.

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    Nah. Why would I? We're just walking down the street.
    No one believes you.

    Of course you live in fear. There is no reason to arm yourself every night if you aren't living in fear.

    sure. I just don't live in fear of that every day of my life like you demonstrably do.
    Recognizing that crime is a reality and having a gun handy does not mean one is living in fear no matter how many times you say it. This brings me back to seat belts. I don't wear one because it's the law, I wear one because accidents happen. I don't drive in fear for my life.

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    Do you have a first aid kit at your house?

    Do you have a surge protector for your electronics?

    Do you have bottled water/canned foods/flashlight in case of natural disaster?

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    No one believes you.

    Recognizing that crime is a reality and having a gun handy does not mean one is living in fear no matter how many times you say it. This brings me back to seat belts. I don't wear one because it's the law, I wear one because accidents happen. I don't drive in fear for my life.
    Comparing Snapping on a seatbelt with moving a gun from a safe to a bedside table then back to the safe every single day isn't really a fair comparison. You're routine reeks of fear. The behavior you've described is irrational IMHO.

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    Comparing Snapping on a seatbelt with moving a gun from a safe to a bedside table then back to the safe every single day isn't really a fair comparison. You're routine reeks of fear. The behavior you've described is irrational IMHO.
    so now securing a gun when I am not home is irrational?

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    so now securing a gun when I am not home is irrational?
    It's wildly excessive. As opposed to comparing it to wearing a seatbelt, a better comparison would be wearing a dental dam to sleep at night so that you don't swallow a spider

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...e-they-sleep1/

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    It's wildly excessive. As opposed to comparing it to wearing a seatbelt, a better comparison would be wearing a dental dam to sleep at night so that you don't swallow a spider

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...e-they-sleep1/
    How do the majority of criminals acquire their guns?

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    How do the majority of criminals acquire their guns?
    It's not irrational to keep your gun in a safe. As you should have noted by my apt comparison, what's irrational is moving it from your safe to your bedside table every night when you go to sleep. You've already bragged in this thread that you live In a low crime area. Do you really need to sleep with a loaded gun next to you? The whole scenario reeks of fear, if in fact you actually exercise that ridiculous routine...

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    lol speaking for others.

    Recognizing that crime is a reality and having a gun handy does not mean one is living in fear no matter how many times you say it. This brings me back to seat belts. I don't wear one because it's the law, I wear one because accidents happen. I don't drive in fear for my life.
    lol another failed analogy.

    Tell me, what are the odds of being murdered in a home invasion compared to those of being in a car accident of any kind?

    Don't dodge this question.

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    Do you have a first aid kit at your house?

    Do you have a surge protector for your electronics?

    Do you have bottled water/canned foods/flashlight in case of natural disaster?

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    Do you have a first aid kit at your house?
    What are the odds of cutting my finger compared to being murdered in a home invasion?

    Do you have a surge protector for your electronics?
    What are the odds of a power surge compared to being murdered in a home invasion?

    Do you have bottled water/canned foods/flashlight in case of natural disaster?
    What are the odds of may power being knocked out compared to being murdered in a home invasion?

    You have a specific fear of being murdered in your home, and that fear causes you to prepare to kill someone every night.

    I have no fear of being murdered in a home invasion and I won't live in that fear. Violent crime peaked in the early 90s. I lived through that, so I'll just keep doing what I do. If someone really wants to murder me, they'll find a way -- but considering the percentage of homicides committed in the course of a home burglary (look it up, it is laughably small), chances are better it will be in the parking lot of a Buffalo Wild Wings for something I posted here.

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    It's not irrational to keep your gun in a safe. As you should have noted by my apt comparison, what's irrational is moving it from your safe to your bedside table every night when you go to sleep. You've already bragged in this thread that you live In a low crime area. Do you really need to sleep with a loaded gun next to you? The whole scenario reeks of fear, if in fact you actually exercise that ridiculous routine...
    What is irrational about moving a gun from a safe to a drawer at night and how exactly is a five second process ridiculous? Aren't you all about keeping guns out of the hands of criminals? And do I need to sleep with one next to me? I'll answer that when I can see in the future.

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    lol speaking for others.
    keep telling yourself that



    Tell me, what are the odds of being murdered in a home invasion compared to those of being in a car accident of any kind?

    Don't dodge this question.
    Dying in a car accident would have been a better comparison than a general accident imo

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    keep telling yourself that
    I will, and it's exactly right because you are trying to do just that.



    Dying in a car accident would have been a better comparison than a general accident imo
    Nope. they protect against injury in any kind of accident. And I have been in car wrecks of all types, including one that led to a fatality. Have you been involved in a home invasion murder lately?

    But sure -- move that goalpost to help yourself out -- what are the odds of dying in a car wreck compared to being murdered in a home invasion?

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    Dude, you tried to equate being murdered in your home to a power surge to your computer -- then you try to limit seat belts to only preventing death.

    Try to decide which extreme of preparedness you are going to argue here.

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    The odds mean nothing to me
    What are the odds of cutting my finger compared to being murdered in a home invasion?
    do you fear cutting your finger?

    What are the odds of a power surge compared to being murdered in a home invasion?
    do you fear a power surge?

    What are the odds of may power being knocked out compared to being murdered in a home invasion?
    You have a specific fear of being murdered in your home, and that fear causes you to prepare to kill someone every night.
    do you fear a natural disaster?

    I have no fear of being murdered in a home invasion and I won't live in that fear. Violent crime peaked in the early 90s. I lived through that, so I'll just keep doing what I do. If someone really wants to murder me, they'll find a way -- but considering the percentage of homicides committed in the course of a home burglary (look it up, it is laughably small), chances are better it will be in the parking lot of a Buffalo Wild Wings for something I posted here.[/Quote]nope. No fear. Sorry. Some just make different preparations for possible situations.

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    The odds mean nothing to medo you fear cutting your finger?

    do you fear a power surge?



    nope. No fear. Sorry.
    Obvious fear.

    If you have no fear of being murdered at home you wouldn't sleep with a gun by you.

    I have a very real fear of dying in a car wreck and I'm not afraid to admit it. My experience and the statistics justify that fea. Why are you afraid to admit your fear of being murdered in a home invasion?

    Do your experience and the statistics justify your fear?

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    Dude, you tried to equate being murdered in your home to a power surge to your computer -- then you try to limit seat belts to only preventing death.

    Try to decide which extreme of preparedness you are going to argue here.
    Again we just see things differently. You go through life telling yourself it could never happen to me, it's rather naive.

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