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    1ST BALLOT HOF Buddy Mignon's Avatar
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    At LSU... he didn't win and was second fiddle to Chris Jackson.
    In Orlando he didn't win and was second fiddle to Penny... the run out of town.
    In LA he won, but was second fiddle to Kobe, then run out of town.
    In Miami, he won, but was second fiddle to Wade, then run out of town.
    In Phoenix, he couldn't even make the playoffs and was second fiddle to Nash, then run out of town.
    In Cleveland, he couldn't win and was second fiddle to James, then run out of town.
    In Boston... he died... then run out of town.

    To show you how much we appreciated his services for his tenure here in LA we retired his jersey up to the rafters... BACKWARDS.

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    At LSU... he didn't win and was second fiddle to Chris Jackson.
    In Orlando he didn't win and was second fiddle to Penny... the run out of town.
    In LA he won, but was second fiddle to Kobe, then run out of town.
    In Miami, he won, but was second fiddle to Wade, then run out of town.
    In Phoenix, he couldn't even make the playoffs and was second fiddle to Nash, then run out of town.
    In Cleveland, he couldn't win and was second fiddle to James, then run out of town.
    In Boston... he died... then run out of town.

    To show you how much we appreciated his services for his tenure here in LA we retired his jersey up to the rafters... BACKWARDS.
    in honor of letting Tammy s take his cookie

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    Veteran spursfan1000's Avatar
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    lol kobe was the sidekick

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    Fan Since 1973 Twisted_Dawg's Avatar
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    Shaq did lead Cole HS in San Antonio to the 1988-1989 State 3A Championships and Cole HS just retired his jersey last March. Forgot how many teams that fat played for. And in Orlando, he was swept 4-0 in the finals being completeley over powered by Hakeem Olajuwon.

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    Veteran tdunk21's Avatar
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    He is better than Kobe the sidekick tbh

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    Veteran Killakobe81's Avatar
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    Wouldnt go that far. But he is overrated on here and not just by Kobe haters. Before "5" even some Spur fans rated Shaq over Tim. O'neal's prime is 2nd to none, but was far too short because he let himself get fat and he definitely under-achieved. He had the tools to be GOAT big and GOAT over MJ ...

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    lol lakerfan s on laker champ

    The Spurs really did a number on them.

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    ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) AaronY's Avatar
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    Lol three finals mvps to Kobe's zero when they played together

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    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    this clown is modern day wilt, all the tools and yet comes up short for no apparent reason

    claim to be MDE but never won or go deep into the playoffs durng the 90s against the great centers...

    he had a good orlando team but they shouldve made more ECF/Finals appearances with or without jordan bulls in the way...

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    Derek Jeter
    Kobe Bryant
    Jeremy Lin
    young Vince Carter
    Allen Iverson

    Way more overrated, off the top of my head. Shaq is rated roughly properly imo by pretty much everyone except Shaq himself.

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Why are Laker fans turning on their own legends.

    The same's gonna happen to Kobe when they have their next superstar.

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    Believe. kobe4life's Avatar
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    Why are Laker fans turning on their own legends.

    The same's gonna happen to Kobe when they have their next superstar.
    Infidel that will never happen. God is the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.

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    Veteran tdunk21's Avatar
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    Why are Laker fans turning on their own legends.

    The same's gonna happen to Kobe when they have their next superstar.
    Swaggy P????

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    I disagree.

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    Believe. Brunodf's Avatar
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    He is overrated and his defense was average...But still 30 ppg on 60% FG can't be ignored, he is a top 6-10 without a doubt

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    Why are Laker fans turning on their own legends.

    The same's gonna happen to Kobe when they have their next superstar.
    Saying that Shaq is overrated is no different than saying Magic was a mediocre defender as he got older, or Kobe had shaky shot selection (always) or sometimesy defense as he got older. Difference is Shaq cut short his prime by letting himself go and did not fully dedicate himself until 2000 (MVP year) under PJ. Shaq is a top 5 Laker all-time (behind Magic, Kobe, West and Kareem) just above Worthy and the Mikan/Baylor/wilt/Goodrich (who I never saw play obviously) and being a top 5 Laker pretty much means he is top 15 all-time.

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Saying that Shaq is overrated is no different than saying Magic was a mediocre defender as he got older, or Kobe had shaky shot selection (always) or sometimesy defense as he got older. Difference is Shaq cut short his prime by letting himself go and did not fully dedicate himself until 2000 (MVP year) under PJ. Shaq is a top 5 Laker all-time (behind Magic, Kobe, West and Kareem) just above Worthy and the Mikan/Baylor/wilt/Goodrich (who I never saw play obviously) and being a top 5 Laker pretty much means he is top 15 all-time.
    Magic WAS a mediocre defender almost throughout his career. He racked up some nice steals playing the passing lanes when he was younger, but he always had trouble with quicker smaller guards.
    Kobe has always had horrible shot selection and his defense stinks up the joint once he got older.

    Those are assessments of his game.

    Saying Shaq is overrated is not an assessment of his game, it's an attack on his legacy with the assumption that there is a universal rating for the player. Sure, Shaq didn't dedicate himself as much as he should, but he is WAY ahead of Worthy (as either a player or a Laker, alphas for a year > 3rd option for a career). He is also unquestionably above Kobe and maybe above West (as a player, not as a Laker), and is most definitely top 10 all time.

    As a Laker, I can see why you would rank him behind Kobe and West, but if using that logic, he should also be ranked behind Mikan and Baylor as those two old timers kept the Lakers compe ive since the dawn of time.

    That said, still don't know why Laker fans are turning against their own legends. They did it to Shaq to prop up Kobe, did it to Wilt to prop up Shaq, did it to Kareem to prop up Shaq, did it to Magic to prop up Kobe, did it to West to prop up Kobe, did it to West to prop up Magic, and on and on. I know it's going to continue to happen, but I can never figure out why.

    You don't people attacking Gervin to prop up Manu or pissing on Robinson to prop up Duncan (maybe because Duncan > Robinson), or people undervaluing Larry Legend to prop up Pierce or Reggie Lewis. It's just this weird phenomenon in Lakerland.

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    Believe. Mori Chu's Avatar
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    OP, you forgot:

    ty "analyst" for TNT, can't even speak, not funny, annoying, then (hopefully soon) run out of town.

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    1ST BALLOT HOF Buddy Mignon's Avatar
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    This is true.

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    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    Magic WAS a mediocre defender almost throughout his career. He racked up some nice steals playing the passing lanes when he was younger, but he always had trouble with quicker smaller guards.
    Kobe has always had horrible shot selection and his defense stinks up the joint once he got older.

    Those are assessments of his game.

    Saying Shaq is overrated is not an assessment of his game, it's an attack on his legacy with the assumption that there is a universal rating for the player. Sure, Shaq didn't dedicate himself as much as he should, but he is WAY ahead of Worthy (as either a player or a Laker, alphas for a year > 3rd option for a career). He is also unquestionably above Kobe and maybe above West (as a player, not as a Laker), and is most definitely top 10 all time.

    As a Laker, I can see why you would rank him behind Kobe and West, but if using that logic, he should also be ranked behind Mikan and Baylor as those two old timers kept the Lakers compe ive since the dawn of time.

    That said, still don't know why Laker fans are turning against their own legends. They did it to Shaq to prop up Kobe, did it to Wilt to prop up Shaq, did it to Kareem to prop up Shaq, did it to Magic to prop up Kobe, did it to West to prop up Kobe, did it to West to prop up Magic, and on and on. I know it's going to continue to happen, but I can never figure out why.

    You don't people attacking Gervin to prop up Manu or pissing on Robinson to prop up Duncan (maybe because Duncan > Robinson), or people undervaluing Larry Legend to prop up Pierce or Reggie Lewis. It's just this weird phenomenon in Lakerland.
    Because they are gots

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    coffee is for closers Infinite_limit's Avatar
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    Definitely Top 10 "Wasted talents".

    He should be hands down greatest player since Jordan but isn't because off the court came along

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    Knowledge Is Hassle Fpoonsie's Avatar
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    Damn. Luva on muh fukkin' point.

    Prahps.

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    Nah. Shaq was a force. Noone could guard the guy in the paint. When he finally did get back on D he was tough to go up against. theres a reason he led 3 different teams to the finals. I think in his Prime, Robinson was the one guy who could give him minor problems sometimes. Most of the time Shaq had his way

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    Kirby is the most overrated player in the history of sports, definitely not Shaq

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Kirby is the most overrated player in the history of sports, definitely not Shaq
    Don't think Shaq paid for his own do entary?

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