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    Wow. They're bombing hospitals. Do you really think the Israeli government would eradicate the entire Gaza Strip if they could get away with it internationally? The only reason they don't is because of the backlash they'd face.
    Hamas would do it immediately. So you tell me what is worse.
    Israel set up the Gaza Strip and allowed it to function on its own.
    Once the mortars then rockets started coming down, they shut down the arms that were being brought in along with essential items. Hamas essentially dared Israel by sacrificing Palestinian well being. The international community criticized Israel for stopping the flow of building material like concrete. Israel knew it was going to make tunnels.

    Now Israel is at a point that they will not stop until they have severely damaged the tunnel networks and missile launchers. This required people on the ground. Once this occurred, Israel knew its death toll would go up as would civilians. UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon expressed "outrage and regret" at rockets which were placed inside a UN-run school in Gaza. BBC

    Israel was willing to take the likely deaths to insure future security... for a while. Israel has accepted the fact that Hamas rules Gaza, and this means constant conflict. Their public is in that mode now. They want to live free of random rocket attacks and tunnels allowing kidnapping.

    The middle ground shrinks when a war begins. See the beginning of planning right after 9/11. The revenge factor gets huge. This latest episode began with the 3 Israeli teenagers. People love revenge.

    Israel is surrounded by neighbors who use the Palestinians as fodder. Sadly, Israel is right now happy to oblige. There are court cases in Israel made by Jewish peace groups trying to stop this in Israeli courts. Yes, it's a democracy. The doves in Israel get completely overshadowed when the rockets come, go figure...
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...w-smiling.html

    Bizarre trend of 'bomb shelter selfies' takes off in Israel as under-siege Tel Aviv residents vow to 'keep on smiling'
    Hundreds of Israelis have do ented their experiences on Facebook
    'There’s a selfie for everything so why not bomb shelters?' said creator
    Many show Israeli citizens smiling and laughing as they pose for the photos
    16-day conflict has claimed lives of 718 Palestinians and 32 Israel soldiers


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz38Q1BA8ZA

    they look so scared!

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    At least Stern has the right take


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    At least Stern has the right take

    HAHA. What's next Chelsea Lately?

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...w-smiling.html

    Bizarre trend of 'bomb shelter selfies' takes off in Israel as under-siege Tel Aviv residents vow to 'keep on smiling'
    Hundreds of Israelis have do ented their experiences on Facebook
    'There’s a selfie for everything so why not bomb shelters?' said creator
    Many show Israeli citizens smiling and laughing as they pose for the photos
    16-day conflict has claimed lives of 718 Palestinians and 32 Israel soldiers


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz38Q1BA8ZA

    they look so scared!
    More politically overstated:

    Hamas Rockets OR Holocaust Gas Chambers?

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...w-smiling.html

    Bizarre trend of 'bomb shelter selfies' takes off in Israel as under-siege Tel Aviv residents vow to 'keep on smiling'
    Hundreds of Israelis have do ented their experiences on Facebook
    'There’s a selfie for everything so why not bomb shelters?' said creator
    Many show Israeli citizens smiling and laughing as they pose for the photos
    16-day conflict has claimed lives of 718 Palestinians and 32 Israel soldiers


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz38Q1BA8ZA

    they look so scared!


    Going into bomb shelters has become a fairly routine event for Israeli citizens.

    I'd be willing to bet that bomb shelters are a common amenity for homes there.

    I don't have a bomb shelter. Do you?

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    This pretty much sums up the conflict. Some of you feel bad for the skinny kid.


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    Hot damn they have some drama at the UN. Its like an episode of House of Cards.

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    What's Israel's response to the Israelis only roads and the Palestinians only roads in the West Bank?

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    its funni the jews are trying to deflect about other conflicts

    this jew is a fkn clown

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    This was shot a couple of days ago in a small town in missourri

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    This was shot a couple of days ago in a small town in missourri
    Are those the ones we are sending to the Ukraine?

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    israelis make no fkn sense

    u want cease fire, then u go put troops on the ground to go in

    so tell me whats the point of a cease fire?

    u go in expecting clowns to bend over and surrender? u come out with 18 dead soldiers and u blame it on hamas (its either hamas dead or jews dead, might as well save urself and shoot first talk later), the fkn clown in charge of the mission should be shot....did he not take any risk control analysis b4 deciding to go in?

    john kerry the clown pushin for a cease fire and jew pm doesnt want one...wtf

    lol US puppet state of israel now? wtf did little brother state had the courage to stand up and tell americans what to do, does israel think they are the saudis now? telling US what to do

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    israelis make no fkn sense

    u want cease fire, then u go put troops on the ground to go in

    so tell me whats the point of a cease fire?

    u go in expecting clowns to bend over and surrender? u come out with 18 dead soldiers and u blame it on hamas (its either hamas dead or jews dead, might as well save urself and shoot first talk later), the fkn clown in charge of the mission should be shot....did he not take any risk control analysis b4 deciding to go in?

    john kerry the clown pushin for a cease fire and jew pm doesnt want one...wtf

    lol US puppet state of israel now? wtf did little brother state had the courage to stand up and tell americans what to do, does israel think they are the saudis now? telling US what to do
    Israel is going to make sure they badly damage Hamas capabilities before they leave, idiot.
    When they go in on the ground they know the loss of life on both sides will be large.
    This is what has happened fairly repe ively. Then Hamas will again try to sneak in armaments with food and medicine.

    Repeat process. This is how Hamas has decided how to deal with the situation when Gaza was given self control from within. This is how Israel will retaliate. The block aides would not be necessary if a Hamas did not bring in rockets, etc...

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    So is the media one sided on this or not? Some more objective reporting would be nice, but it Seems you can get both sides of the story if you want.

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    The biases are clear on both sides with respect to media coverage. You just have to be mildly intelligent to sift through the bull .

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    ‘Witch Hunt’: Fired MSNBC Contributor Speaks Out on Suppression of Israel-Palestine Debate

    MSNBC contributor Rula Jebreal’s on-air protest of the network’s slanted coverage of Israel’s ongoing assault on the Gaza Strip has brought media suppression of the Israel-Palestine debate into sharp focus. Punished for her act of dissent with the cancellation of all future appearances and the termination of her contract, Jebreal spoke to me about what prompted her to speak out and why MSNBC was presenting such a distorted view of the crisis.

    “I couldn’t stay silent after seeing the amount of airtime given to Israeli politicians versus Palestinians,” Jebreal told me. “They say we are balanced but their idea of balance is 90 percent Israeli guests and 10 percent Palestinians. This kind of media is what leads to the failing policies that we see in Gaza.”

    She continued, “We as journalists are there to afflict the comfortable and who is comfortable in this case? Who is really endangering both sides and harming American interests in the region? It’s those enforcing the status quo of the siege of Gaza and the occupation of the West Bank.”


    Jebreal said that in her two years as an MSNBC contributor, she had protested the network’s slanted coverage repeatedly in private conversations with producers. “I told them we have a serious issue here,” she explained. “But everybody’s intimidated by this pressure and if it’s not direct then it becomes self-censorship.”


    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/witch_hunt_fired_msnbc_contributor_suppression_isr ael-palestine_20140724?utm_source=feedburner&utm_mediu m=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+Truthdig+Truthdig%25 3A+Drilling+Beneath+the+Headlines

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    The Israeli govt. did not torture and burn the poor Arab kid. Hamas applauded the kidnapping. Like OJ, they have not found the perps...

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    You may disagree with Muslims views & way of life but you know where they stand and they make their intentions known. Jews *constantly* say one thing & do another. It's why Europe booted them out

    It is time for USA to shut up about Eastern Europe and do something about the the extremist they fund in Israel.

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    There's no equivalence between Jews and Israel. A political state isn't a race. It isn't even a tribe.

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    ‘Witch Hunt’: Fired MSNBC Contributor Speaks Out on Suppression of Israel-Palestine Debate

    MSNBC contributor Rula Jebreal’s on-air protest of the network’s slanted coverage of Israel’s ongoing assault on the Gaza Strip has brought media suppression of the Israel-Palestine debate into sharp focus. Punished for her act of dissent with the cancellation of all future appearances and the termination of her contract, Jebreal spoke to me about what prompted her to speak out and why MSNBC was presenting such a distorted view of the crisis.

    “I couldn’t stay silent after seeing the amount of airtime given to Israeli politicians versus Palestinians,” Jebreal told me. “They say we are balanced but their idea of balance is 90 percent Israeli guests and 10 percent Palestinians. This kind of media is what leads to the failing policies that we see in Gaza.”

    She continued, “We as journalists are there to afflict the comfortable and who is comfortable in this case? Who is really endangering both sides and harming American interests in the region? It’s those enforcing the status quo of the siege of Gaza and the occupation of the West Bank.”


    Jebreal said that in her two years as an MSNBC contributor, she had protested the network’s slanted coverage repeatedly in private conversations with producers. “I told them we have a serious issue here,” she explained. “But everybody’s intimidated by this pressure and if it’s not direct then it becomes self-censorship.”


    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/witch_hunt_fired_msnbc_contributor_suppression_isr ael-palestine_20140724?utm_source=feedburner&utm_mediu m=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+Truthdig+Truthdig%25 3A+Drilling+Beneath+the+Headlines
    Wow we got a looker. Italian-Palestinian






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