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I'm talking fish to land animal to ape, did you see it happen?
You mean adaptations?
I'm talking fish to land animal to ape, did you see it happen?
And that is the plugging of the ears going "la la la la, I cant hear you" even though the proof is right there presented to you.
And people wonder why Atheist are "assholes" to theist.
It is like punching a brick wall.
We dont need to see it "happen" because it takes millions of years, but we DO have the fossil proof, you just refuse to accept it.
Scientists show one fossil and the difference between the "neighbor" and you want something in between that... They come up with something between that, but you want something even more between those.
Did you know that there is a fossil that pretty much 50% of theist couldnt agree if it was human or ape? Even a leading "Theist" scientist at one point claimed a skull to be "completely human" only 6 or 7 years later on the SAME ING SKULL claimed it it be "completely ape"...
What fossils?
Watch the videos.... it is in there. I dont have to prove myself, it has already been proven. Peer reviewed and everything.
No it hasn't.
yes it has. Already provided the proof for you here in this thread... up to you to find it. Not my problem if you refuse to find out the facts for yourself and choose to believe myths.
What proof though? Show me how you know a fish evolved into a rat that evolved into a monkey that evolved into a man.
“A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open.”
― Frank Zappa
Wow....
Please read up on evolution....
Not even going to explain how way off base you are with your understanding of it right now.
At least have a basic understanding of what you are arguing about before you make a ing idiot of yourself.
So then where did the ape come from?
Just FYI, we are also Apes...
Use google.
No we are not. And where did the ape come from? A lemur?
Yes, humans are apes, or at least a part of the ape family.
Until you fully understand what evolution entails there is no point arguing with you. It is like arguing engine work with someone who doesn't even know how to change their own oil.
And to answer your question about the old and new testament, The Law of Moses was given by God to his people, the Jews, they would remain his people as long as they followed his laws, which of course they did not. So seeing as the laws were pointless and the Jews were no longer Gods chosen people God sent Jesus to give us new laws and a chance for everyone to have everlasting life.
I understand evolution, it states that we came from an ape that came from a lemur that came from a rat that came from a fish.
Was it fair for God to have a chosen people? What about the other people? I do not know the answer to that question but I am now searching for it.
I also believe many of those laws were given to help his people survive while in the wilderness.
You keep calling me an idiot yet you have yet to provide a definition of what you think evolution is.
Jesus Christ...how about a NSFW warning...
"Them", is YOU, so in essence you are telling yourself to yourself! That is pretty bizarre if you ask me!
Just so you know, I am not trying to be "contrary" here, but shed a little insight on things.
Your statement about the theists "forcing their beliefs throughout the world", is only partially true, and to be honest, it is such a tiny fragment of the truth that it is preposterous and quite narrow minded to say the least.
First, this "forcing By the theists against the atheists" only occurred during a few short age spans, an example of which would be during the Dark Ages of the Inquisition.
There were other ages this was done in the Middle East (such as theist against theist, i.e. the Crusades), but you have to realize that "it WAS NOT the entire world".
Civilizations in Asia (China and India for example) were not being affected by this Inquisition, only "parts of Europe and the Middle East" were, and there were a of a lot more people living in Asia (again China and India for example) than Europe and the Middle East.
Second, the belief in One God (Judaism, Christianity, Islamism), and of many gods (Greek, Roman, Celtic, and Norse religions for example), are a of a lot "shorter spans" of time than the span of ages that held, and hold, an atheistic view.
Third, your contention that now the theists are "being called out on it", due to them "forcing their theistic beliefs on others", is also inherently false, because of the implication that due to these few short and rare ages (such as the Inquisition), they deserve to be called out.
You tend to conveniently forget about the age of persecutions that the theists suffered through because they dared to posit a view of One God.
Fourth, a very easy argument could be made that atheists are the ones "who should be called out" simply because they have always been the great MAJORITY OF THE WORLD' population, and other than those tiny few times where theists persecuted others for being atheistic or otherwise, "the persecutions of theists have been a of a lot longer".
Whereas the real truth is, one wrong does not deserve another, or two wrongs make it right.
So, the point is, the only reason either (an atheist or a theist) "FEELS a NEED to call out the other", is entirely and solely because they have a limited, basic, and ignorantly "FANATICAL" view, and an incomplete knowledge of what they believe or disbelieve, plus are inherently insecure in their views, to the point that they NEED to force those views on the other.
This is WHY they are FANATICS.
For most of us reasonable and rational atheists and theists, we have "no desire whatsoever to 'FORCE' our views on anyone whosoever", least of all on those who view it differently.
No, both reasonable and rational sides are quite content to believe or disbelieve whatever we want to, as long as it doesn't interfere with our daily lives, or hurt others.
Yet even now in this age there are those "on both sides of the issue" who still want to cram their viewpoints down our throats, instead of allowing us to live and believe the way we feel is right and comfortable.
These "enforcers" if you will, are the FANATICS, regardless of whether they are atheists or theists.
And they are both WRONG, and not because of what they believe or disbelieve, or how they live, but because they are acting intrusive and dictatorial in PUSHING their views on others.
These fanatical characters exist right here on ST, microcosm reflects macrocosm, here in this forum, as it is all over the world.
Last edited by xmas1997; 07-27-2014 at 12:28 PM.
So in a million years what will we evolve into next? Evolution doesnt stop with our current normal human body features does it?
"Them", is YOU, so in essence you are telling yourself to yourself! That is pretty bizarre if you ask me!
Just so you know, I am not trying to be "contrary" here, but shed a little insight on things.
Your statement about the theists "forcing their beliefs throughout the world", is only partially true, and to be honest, it is such a tiny fragment of the truth that it is preposterous and quite narrow minded to say the least.
First, this "forcing By the theists against the atheists" only occurred during a few short age spans, an example of which would be during the Dark Ages of the Inquisition.
There were other ages this was done in the Middle East (such as theist against theist, i.e. the Crusades), but you have to realize that "it WAS NOT the entire world".
Civilizations in Asia (China and India for example) were not being affected by this Inquisition, only "parts of Europe and the Middle East" were, and there were a of a lot more people living in Asia (again China and India for example) than Europe and the Middle East.
Second, the belief in One God (Judaism, Christianity, Islamism), and of many gods (Greek, Roman, Celtic, and Norse religions for example), are a of a lot "shorter spans" of time than the span of ages that held, and hold, an atheistic view.
Third, your contention that now the theists are "being called out on it", due to them "forcing their theistic beliefs on others", is also inherently false, because of the implication that due to these few short and rare ages (such as the Inquisition), they deserve to be called out.
You tend to conveniently forget about the age of persecutions that the theists suffered through because they dared to posit a view of One God.
Fourth, a very easy argument could be made that atheists are the ones "who should be called out" simply because they have always been the great MAJORITY OF THE WORLD' population, and other than those tiny few times where theists persecuted others for being atheistic or otherwise, "the persecutions of theists have been a of a lot longer".
Whereas the real truth is, one wrong does not deserve another, or two wrongs make it right.
So, the point is, the only reason either (an atheist or a theist) "FEELS a NEED to call out the other", is entirely and solely because they have a limited, basic, and ignorantly "FANATICAL" view, and an incomplete knowledge of what they believe or disbelieve, plus are inherently insecure in their views, to the point that they NEED to force those views on the other.
This is WHY they are FANATICS.
For most of us reasonable and rational atheists and theists, we have "no desire whatsoever to 'FORCE' our views on anyone whosoever", least of all on those who view it differently.
No, both reasonable and rational sides are quite content to believe or disbelieve whatever we want to, as long as it doesn't interfere with our daily lives, or hurt others.
Yet even now in this age there are those "on both sides of the issue" who still want to cram their viewpoints down our throats, instead of allowing us to live and believe the way we feel is right and comfortable.
These "enforcers" if you will, are the FANATICS, regardless of whether they are atheists or theists.
And they are both WRONG, and not because of what they believe or disbelieve, or how they live, but because they are acting intrusive and dictatorial in PUSHING their views on others.
These fanatical characters exist right here on ST, microcosm reflects macrocosm, here in this forum, as it is all over the world.
Well said.
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