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    does that contradict what is told in genesis?

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    does that contradict what is told in genesis?
    No.

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    Where the did Blake and RG go?

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    Genesis says god made animals on the 5th day and humans on the 6th day

    that would mean they were one day apart. you just told me that there was more than a one day gap. that contradicts

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    Genesis says god made animals on the 5th day and humans on the 6th day
    Not 24 hours to my knowledge, somewhere along the line of a thousand years= a day in Gods eyes.

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    Not 24 hours to my knowledge, somewhere along the line of a thousand years= a day in Gods eyes.
    what is a day?

    the bible makes use of the word day, year in it. i dont think god was confused. but in any event, what's a day

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    2 Peter 3:8

    8 However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.



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    Jehovah=God

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    so was jesus resurrected after 3000 years?

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    Where the did Blake and RG go?
    My was getting raw. If you want more, I'll need lube and a fluff.

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    Psalm 90:4

    4 For a thousand years are in your eyes just as yesterday when it is past,Just as a watch during the night.

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    My was getting raw. If you want more, I'll need lube and a fluff.
    LOL, acting as if you didn't get your ass handed to you.

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    so was jesus resurrected after 3000 years?
    No. You aren't reading in context.

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    What does the Bible say about mocking someone's divorce?

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    What does the Bible say about mocking someone's divorce?
    Does it matter? I'm not saying I'm a christian or that I follow all of the Bibles laws. Hopefully one day I will. As of now, I will keep insulting and mocking Blake. If he stops calling me an idiot then maybe I'll stop.

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    the 1 day = 1000 years for jehova is just to show that God functions outside of the context of time. in fact, according to canon, god created time. he himself is in all times and at all times, or some . but Genesis specifically states days

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    No. You aren't reading in context.
    so when do you consider a day a day and when do you consider a day 1,000 years. whenever its convenient?

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    The video was meant to be amusing, but I can very easily find Christians saying bad things about atheists, if you like.

    I don't claim there is no God. That is a strawman of my position. I merely claim that I have not been presented with evidence supporting that rather extraordinary claim.
    I made no claim as to your position; only that the video itself presented a strawman argument as to what (the creator of the video's) stereotypical view of a christian family was.

    Reasonable people can believe unreasonable things. I don't generally belittle people who believe things, unless they want to cast the first stone. I tend to give about as much respect as I am given, or at least try to anyway.
    The bulk of disrespect in my diatribe was aimed (at least I think) at Christians themselves, and their denial of science and their own (alleged) intelligence.

    If anyone wants to cite the Bible, edited or re-written or whathaveyou, as "proof" of something,one has have to also explain the icky stuff, like human sacrifice, murder, rape, and the sheer absurdity of the resurrection and the whole underpinning of Judaism/Christianity, etc.
    All of my bible citations were aimed specifically at Christians - I offer them as proof to a non-believer pretty much never (about as unproductive an enterprise as I could imagine). The apparent, obvious, disconnects/immorality etc.. riddled throughout the bible are what they are. I read the bible as a ra bi instructed me to - through interpretation. Jesus taught in parables all the time, if the Bible is his father's work (inspired or whatever), I can only imagine he did so, as well. I am a Christian, so I start with the Gospels - the actual actions and words of Christ, and study the rest of the bible through that lens. Many Christians consider all parts of the bible equal. I do not. It cannot be, after all - there are contradictions all over the place.

    Lastly, I would simply ask why God has not revealed himself to me. If a road to damascus vision was good enough for Saul, it should be good enough for me. I want to see angels, and something a lot more convincing than some deeply flawed book. Surely the creator of the universe could do better than that. THinking that we need to learn ancient languages to really understand God makes about as much sense as requiring us to go to the basement bathroom of a building orbiting Alpha Centari to read the demolition notice for our planet. I can't imagine the creator of the universe is a Vogon.
    I am afraid you are going to be disappointed, and probably never satisfied that there is a God. I believe, however, that your skepticism will not be looked on as unfavorably as MANY Christians believe. God made you a skeptic, after all. He understands why you question. But if Jesus's sacrifice was enough to get my sorry ass eternal salvation, it's good enough for your's, too. I know your a dad - and you know how you ALWAYS give your kids second, third and fourth chances (1, 2, 3, 3 1/2, 3 3/4, 3 7/8....) I know plenty of good people who happen to be non-believers. I don't think they are going to . Most Christians don't hold that view. Parts of the Bible directly contradict that view....

    Regarding learning ancient languages; again that was aimed at Christians and their reliance on the text of the Bible. EVEN reading in Aramaic, Latin, Hebrew or Greek wouldn't matter - the Bible is still (obviously) the work of man - that is as apparent as the fact that evolution happens...

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    so when do you consider a day a day and when do you consider a day 1,000 years. whenever its convenient?
    No, and you know the answer, you're just acting dumb.

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    the 1 day = 1000 years for jehova is just to show that God functions outside of the context of time. in fact, according to canon, god created time. he himself is in all times and at all times, or some . but Genesis specifically states days
    It states according to God. Ad even if it is days, why does that matter?

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    No, and you know the answer, you're just acting dumb.
    i really don't . so is genesis the only instant when 1 day = 1,000 years or are there other exceptions i should know about. i'm just confused why he couldn't say years, ages, aeons... but instead said day if that's not what he meant

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    i really don't . so is genesis the only instant when 1 day = 1,000 years or are there other exceptions i should know about. i'm just confused why he couldn't say years, ages, aeons... but instead said day if that's not what he meant
    Like I said, if you're reading out of context you won't know what day is referring to.

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    Like I said, if you're reading out of context you won't know what day is referring to.
    how do you know that in the context of genesis that day = millenium?

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    how do you know that in the context of genesis that day = millenium?
    Because it is referring to "day" in Gods viewpoint.

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    I believe this whole universe was created by intelligent design. The way everything works to me no matter what science sais is just too much. I also believe science and religion can co-exist. I dont take the bible word for word since it was created by man baed off witness accounts and years later after his death it seems. Just the fact that it was a woman who found Christ when he rose from the dead speaks volumes to me. If it was a fairy tale back then i would imagine it would be written that it was a man that discovered first he rose. But theres a joke that sums it all up for me. Two brothers, one a preist, the other a scientist come home and find some chocolate cookies on the table. The son of the scientist wondered where they came from and his father quickly answered, "it appears flour and sugar were mixed and baked for an hour in 350 degrees. The preacher simply answered, Yea your grandma made them. lol

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