Foundational Falshoods of Creationism

[xmas1997]

Your "everyone else" is ~5 people on this board.

It is "everyone", except for the trolls, kind of like you.
Get it right, even though it must be a struggle for you.

[leemajors]

It is "everyone", except for the trolls, kind of like you.
Get it right, even though it must be a struggle for you.

Still stuck on the rubber/glue phase, awesome

[Blake]

Still stuck on the rubber/glue phase, awesome

I know you are but what am I tactic

[xmas1997]

I know you are but what am I tactic

Uh huh, still nothing of consequence or relevance to ADD to the discussion I see.
It just confirms you know exactly NOTHING about the subject matter!
So how old are you really, 13, 14, 15?

[silverblk mystix]

I'd rather waste time here pointing out the ridiculousness of believing in the Bible than waste time and money sitting in a catholic pew on Sunday morning.

Is your kid ridiculous and re ed because you enrolled her in a place that will ram the bible down her throat?


Hope you are consistent and share your true condescending feelings with her.

[xmas1997]

I know you are but what am I tactic

You must be a terrible father, if you really are old enough to have a child, which I really doubt, when you say all the you do in this forum.

[Blake]

You must be a terrible father, if you really are old enough to have a child, which I really doubt, when you say all the you do in this forum.

all the talking I've done, I've done to adults, not kids.

Unless you're saying you're a kid.

But I'm inclined to believe you're just an old thin skinned idiot.

[Blake]

Is your kid ridiculous and re ed because you enrolled her in a place that will ram the bible down her throat?


Hope you are consistent and share your true condescending feelings with her.

What a stupid post.

I'm glad she'll get to study the Bible to see what a crock of it is.

And have the opportunity to be in a nice, clean private school environment.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Excellent points, but I feel you are "generalizing" quite a bit, especially when you consider the time spans involved in comparing theistic (Judaism, Christianity, Islamism, etc. for example) views to atheistic views.

It is fine for you to focus in on those particular religions, yet you neglect to mention the "fanatics" among them with their fanatical agendas of persuading, evangelizing, and proselytizing.
It is important for you and others to realize that you are "generalizing", lumping the vast majority of the believers together, with the few fanatics and their pursuit of the agendas which you claim, and that is clearly a false generalization.

You need to differentiate between the vast majority of believers, and the minority few fanatics among them in order to be accurate in your assertion and description, because there are fanatics in every walk of life, theists do not have a monopoly on fanaticism, be it religious, political, or otherwise.

Saul (Paul) was teaching those WITHIN his faith, he was not out and about evangelizing, thus it's true, "ministry" is a central mechanism used in his teaching, but NOT for those "outside" the faith.
Those that were NOT part of his faith, who came into contact with, and happened to hear him as he taught those who were, were under no compulsion at all to become involved, or join his faith.

Islamism is another story and IMHO much more radical and politically motivated, so you may have a case there.

Nice strawman.

You Saul commentary is completely besides the point I was making. To your point though, Saul basically said that you were going to if you didn't follow his lead. its a central theme in your faith.

Stating that Jesus used ministry as a tenant of his doctrine is not a generalization. You can look it up in the gospels. Further me stating that when people use religion to do bad things is a problem does not generalize to me saying that all religious people do bad things. You suck at logic.

Its a central tenant of your faith that all people do bad things thus all people need Jesus or they suffer for eternity.

[xmas1997]

all the talking I've done, I've done to adults, not kids.

Unless you're saying you're a kid.

But I'm inclined to believe you're just an old thin skinned idiot.

Oh, I see, that makes it okay then in your mind, you can the to adults , but draw the line with kids?
How old did you say you were, 13, 14, 15?

[silverblk mystix]

What a stupid post.

I'm glad she'll get to study the Bible to see what a crock of it is.

And have the opportunity to be in a nice, clean private school environment.

So you set her up to fail, basically?





I am glad I didn't have a ty dad.


"Son, I want to enroll you in something I think is for re s, dip s, idiots & morons - because - well - I am a ty dad!"

[Blake]

Oh, I see, that makes it okay then in your mind, you can the to adults , but draw the line with kids?
How old did you say you were, 13, 14, 15?

of course I draw the talking line with kids and keep it directed at adults.

Damn I hope you don't have kids for their sake.

What the is wrong with you.

[Blake]

So you set her up to fail, basically?





I am glad I didn't have a ty dad.


"Son, I want to enroll you in something I think is for re s, dip s, idiots & morons - because - well - I am a ty dad!"

I put her in a school where a large percentage of the graduates received an academic college scholarship of some sort last year.

But keep showing off your public school education, prison guard.

[silverblk mystix]

I put her in a school where 90% of the graduates received an academic scholarship of some sort.

But keep showing off your public school education, prison guard.

Yes, - if she excels - she will be a bible thumper jeebo - (in your eyes - anyway)

If she fails - and renounces the bible and then develops a condescending ty at ude and a repugnant outlook on life - she will be a great kid - (in your eyes)



Sounds like you really thought this out!

[xmas1997]

Nice strawman.

You Saul commentary is completely besides the point I was making. To your point though, Saul basically said that you were going to if you didn't follow his lead. its a central theme in your faith.

Stating that Jesus used ministry as a tenant of his doctrine is not a generalization. You can look it up in the gospels. Further me stating that when people use religion to do bad things is a problem does not generalize to me saying that all religious people do bad things. You suck at logic.

Its a central tenant of your faith that all people do bad things thus all people need Jesus or they suffer for eternity.

I had a feeling what I said to you would go way over your head, and lo and behold, it did, just as it always does every time I discuss something with you, or try to.
First, you get all defensive about it because apparently you misunderstand it and mistake it for some sort of fic ious attack on your character.
And second, you misconstrue all logic involved because it does not fit or support your contention.
This is what I mean by your "pseudo intellectualism", you might try having this thing they call "an open mind" sometime, it would behoove you to, and you might just learn something beneficial.
So never mind, you wouldn't understand anyway.
But you are welcome to over generalize, misconstrue, and make all the outlandish false accusations you desire.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

As for this notion that ministry was only internal, it displays a marked ignorance as to the schism between Peter and Saul. it's obvious who won out as the gentiles were proselytized.

[Blake]

Yes, - if she excels - she will be a bible thumper jeebo - (in your eyes - anyway)

If she fails - and renounces the bible and then develops a condescending ty at ude and a repugnant outlook on life - she will be a great kid - (in your eyes)



Sounds like you really thought this out!

You haven't thought anything out, but yes, I have.

smh public school prison guard.

[silverblk mystix]

I haven't thought anything out - and the truth is I hate the brat because her mom cucked me!

Well you finally manned up and just admitted it!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I had a feeling what I said to you would go way over your head, and lo and behold, it did, just as it always does every time I discuss something with you, or try to.
First, you get all defensive about it because apparently you misunderstand it and mistake it for some sort of fic ious attack on your character.
And second, you misconstrue all logic involved because it does not fit or support your contention.
This is what I mean by your "pseudo intellectualism", you might try having this thing they call "an open mind" sometime, it would behoove you to, and you might just learn something beneficial.
So never mind, you wouldn't understand anyway.
But you are welcome to over generalize, misconstrue, and make all the outlandish false accusations you desire.

You wrote all of that out and fail to address anything I actually say.

If one does not accept Jesus as their savior and has sinned then what happens to them when they die according to your faith? What does your dogma say on the matter? You are afraid to address this head on. it is telling.

Jesus and his apostles still demanded proselytization.

And me making comments on the actions of some Christians still does not generalize to all of them. If you refuse to be painted with that brush then fine but that still does not mitigate how there are Christians and Christian groups that try and effect policy. They try to rewrite history and doctor text books. They stifle research that they do not understand or that they feel contradicts their faith. It is what it is.

[xmas1997]

You wrote all of that out and fail to address anything I actually say.

If one does not accept Jesus as their savior and has sinned then what happens to them when they die according to your faith? What does your dogma say on the matter? You are afraid to address this head on. it is telling.

Jesus and his apostles still demanded proselytization.

And me making comments on the actions of some Christians still does not generalize to all of them. If you refuse to be painted with that brush then fine but that still does not mitigate how there are Christians and Christian groups that try and effect policy. They try to rewrite history and doctor text books. They stifle research that they do not understand or that they feel contradicts their faith. It is what it is.

Way too many questions to address especially if you are not willing to discuss it, but rather only want to see a very narrow view of things.
Yes, your view of Christianity is extremely limited and narrow minded, because Christianity encompasses quite a large number of faiths and few of them agree on much except that Jesus Christ was the Son of God.
The rest is open to each sects interpretation, but you focus entirely on just one interpretation.
That, my friend, is a limited narrow minded viewpoint.
Do you understand this?
Plus you make open ended statements that you apparently contend are true for all, when in fact it is NOT shared by ALL elements of Christianity.
This is why it is practically impossible to have a discussion with you on this topic.
Maybe my criticism of you being a pseudo intellectual is harsh, but this is exactly what one of those does.

[spurraider21]

all trolling aside i see where Blake is coming from... when I have kids I would probably want to send them to the same private school i attended, despite regular religion classes. was a good environment

[xmas1997]

all trolling aside i see where Blake is coming from... when I have kids I would probably want to send them to the same private school i attended, despite regular religion classes. was a good environment

Best educations in the US IMHO. I attended them all my life and was never sorry I did.

[spurraider21]

Best educations in the US IMHO. I attended them all my life and was never sorry I did.

i dont necessarily think the teachers were that great, and its not like it was a drug free campus by any stretch, but i dig the tight-knit environment and the smaller classroom sizes

[Blake]

Best educations in the US IMHO. I attended them all my life and was never sorry I did.

then how did you become so stupid

[Blake]

i dont necessarily think the teachers were that great, and its not like it was a drug free campus by any stretch, but i dig the tight-knit environment and the smaller classroom sizes

discipline is also a non-issue and since the classes are so small, she's automatically on the volleyball and basketball teams