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just when i thought theres already too many raiders fans that are messicans
just when i thought theres already too many raiders fans that are messicans
I would be on board son!
...the greys are going to ruin the NFL forum.
The Raiders came oh so close to being called...The Oakland Senors.....I'm dead serious.
Hmmmmm....The San Antonio Senors.
Jerry Jones will try his best to block this somehow. He needs those Mexicans in SA.
San Antonio can't even support a gotdamned Arena team, no way in anyone is gonna move an NFL team here.
Oakland Raiders owner in talks with S.A. to relocate NFL team
http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/pro...to-5654812.php
SAN ANTONIO — Oakland Raiders owner Mark Davis and two top lieutenants met recently with several San Antonio officials to discuss the potential of moving his NFL team from the Bay Area to the Alamo City, sources familiar with the matter have confirmed.
On July 18, Davis met with the officials, including Henry Cisneros, then-Mayor Julián Castro, City Manager Sheryl Sculley, Mario Hernandez of the San Antonio Economic Development Foundation, and both Richard Perez and David McGee, the president and chairman of the San Antonio Chamber of Commerce, respectively.
San Antonio has often been used as a bargaining chip for pro sports franchises trying to negotiate better deals in their own respective cities, but sources have characterized Davis' interest in San Antonio to be at least somewhat more serious. He is clearly perturbed with his current situation in Oakland, where the team's lease expires after the 2014-15 season.
Cisneros, who led the charge to build the Alamodome when he was mayor, has been described by sources as the architect of the meeting.
Davis and his associates reportedly spent two or three days here, visiting the Alamodome and other places. They also took an aerial tour of the city in a helicopter, arranged by developer Marty Wender.
With some upgrades, the Alamodome could be ready for a 2015-16 NFL season, though it would be a temporary home at best. The city has set aside funds to add suites to the 21-year-old dome, now home to the University of Texas at San Antonio Roadrunners football team and the San Antonio Talons arena football team.
If the Raiders moved here, though, Davis is expected to seek a new stadium within a few years, after the team had proved itself in the Alamo City.
Davis told San Antonio civic and business leaders he isn't seeking a “Jerry Jones-type facility” and prefers “a small, intimate” stadium that he can place “a statue of his father in front of,” a source said.
But even if San Antonio ponies up an enticing deal and Davis ultimately decides to relocate here, the two sides would still face an uphill battle. San Antonio only ranks in the mid-30s in the nation's top television markets and NFL owners — including the Dallas Cowboys and the Houston Texans — would have to vote on the deal. And whether the NFL would allow the team to leave the sixth largest media market for the 37th remains unclear.
Any team desiring to relocate would need the blessing of 24 of the league's 32 owners. Greg Aiello, the NFL's senior vice president of communications, had little to say on a potential Raiders relocation.
“We don't have any information about (Davis' meeting in San Antonio), so there is no reason for us to comment,” he said Tuesday. “We have received no applications from any of our teams to relocate at this point, so there is nothing for us to respond to.”
Though San Antonio ranks 37th in the country's top television markets, the Raiders have a significant Hispanic fan base and Davis apparently believes his team would do well in South Texas.
It appears that his meeting here has been in the works for at least a couple months. A source familiar with the talks said he had heard a couple months ago that the Raiders were interested in San Antonio. But the details of Davis' visit indicate that he could be interested in San Antonio more than just as a bargaining chip in Oakland. While here, the Raiders owner had separate discussions with Spurs owner Peter Holt and Red McCombs, who both showed interest in having a stake in the team if it were to move here. A source indicated that the beleaguered Wheatley Heights sports complex on the East Side could serve as a potential training facility, and Davis also looked at open land during his visit.
Though Holt is apparently interested in NFL in San Antonio, others in the Spurs organization aren't. There are concerns, a source said, that the Raiders, whose colors are also black and silver, could pull away from the Spurs' fan base — and their pocketbooks.
Last edited by xmas1997; 07-29-2014 at 06:31 PM.
I love football, but arena football is a joke. I would be at every Raiders game even if they played in New Braunfels.
Raiders aren't going to play in a 65,000 seat stadium.
San Antonio's not going spend a billion smackers for a replacement.
NFL not excited about a team in a pathetically small market.
Ain't no billionaire gonna step up and build anything, either.
How many times does this town have to be used as a foil before you people will get it?
Let's see...
Los Angeles Chargers to San Diego
Oakland Raiders to LA then back to Oakland now maybe San Antonio
Houston Oilers becoming Tennessee ans (The NY Jets started off as the ans)
Baltimore Colts becoming Indy Colts
Dallas Texans becoming the KC Chiefs
Chicago Cardinals becoming the St. Louis Cardinals only to become the Arizona Cardinals.
Los Angeles Rams becoming the St.Louiis Rams.
Boston Patriots becoming the New England Patriots
The Dallas Cowboys were almost called.....The Dallas Rangers.
Which Raiders official told you this?
The same one who told you they want to move here.
Well what was Mark Davis doing here then...
The San Antonio market could easily include Austin, San Marcos and New Braunfels. I think plenty of people from those nearby cities would make the drive down for the NFL tbh. San Antonio-New Braunfels shouldve been merged like DFW a long time ago, not sure what the hold up is there.
The Dome can expand to 72k BTW .
its arena football dumbass. I'm not paying $60 for bull arena football. I would pay $1500-$2000 for season tickets for NFL though...
From what I've read the Alamodome would be expected to just be a temp. For a permanent spot they'd either need them to redo the Dome or have an agreement to build a new facility
That is the poorest analogy used in sports today. There is a HUGE difference in an arena football team, and an NFL team. Or weren't you aware of this?
This is the same piss poor argument used to support the contention that San Antonio can't support a MLB team because they can't support a minor league team.
What you and many other short sighted individuals don't realize is that most San Antonians DO NOT WANT A MINOR league team, of any kind!
You'd also have people from Corpus down to the Valley who would be able to go watch games. I know they've discussed on occasion about the possibility of an NFL team in the RGV. San Antonio makes much more sense.
Averaged 30-35k the first three yrs for a start-up college football program that up until recently had a bunch FCS & D-II teams on its home schedule.
Yeah, the Alamodome definitely isn't up to NFL standards. Find it difficult to believe San Antonio would be willing to build a new stadium though--it'd have to be renovations to the Dome imo.
What are you hearing in California though, do these talks sound legit? SA has been used as leverage way too many times for me to get my hopes up tbh.
they've been going back and forth with the city of oakland for like 5-6 years now and there's been almost no progress. LA makes the most sense, there will always be investors tbh
If LA wants them too then we have no shot tbh.
Man, L.A. Twenty years w/o a team. How close can you get? Almost had the beloved Seahawks...well, had them in the OC for a week. Hate being used as leverage. Times are tough whilst I watch every team on a given Sunday.
That is true, but L.A. does not want them, and won't even build a facility for an expansion team.
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