Foundational Falshoods of Creationism

[spurraider21]

discipline is also a non-issue and since the classes are so small, she's automatically on the volleyball and basketball teams

yeah that's another aspect, terrible sports. i actually made the soccer team at my school

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Way too many questions to address especially if you are not willing to discuss it, but rather only want to see a very narrow view of things.
Yes, your view of Christianity is extremely limited and narrow minded, because Christianity encompasses quite a large number of faiths and few of them agree on much except that Jesus Christ was the Son of God.
The rest is open to each sects interpretation, but you focus entirely on just one interpretation.
That, my friend, is a limited narrow minded viewpoint.
Do you understand this?
Plus you make open ended statements that you apparently contend are true for all, when in fact it is NOT shared by ALL elements of Christianity.
This is why it is practically impossible to have a discussion with you on this topic.
Maybe my criticism of you being a pseudo intellectual is harsh, but this is exactly what one of those does.

I am not your friend and empty pla udes are contemptible.

It's funny, ever since I pointed out how your discussion of universal rhythms being pseudo-intellectual nonsense, you have despearately tried to pin it on me. That was months ago and you claim that you don't hold grudges. Are you just typical cognitive dissonance or are you simply another lying piece of ?

I get that you are afraid of the answers you came up with regrading my questions and believe me it is not lost on anyone that you dodge them in a very cowardly fashion as you pointedly ignore my response to your claims of my overgeneralization.

Anyway i am done feeding your desperate need for attention. Have fun trolling the others.

[xmas1997]

I am not your friend and empty pla udes are contemptible.

It's funny, ever since I pointed out how your discussion of universal rhythms being pseudo-intellectual nonsense, you have despearately tried to pin it on me. That was months ago and you claim that you don't hold grudges. Are you just typical cognitive dissonance or are you simply another lying piece of ?

I get that you are afraid of the answers you came up with regrading my questions and believe me it is not lost on anyone that you dodge them in a very cowardly fashion as you pointedly ignore my response to your claims of my overgeneralization.

Anyway i am done feeding your desperate need for attention. Have fun trolling the others.

I was the one who said you were the pseudo intellectual here, not the other way around.
This is well known.
It is not that I don't want to discuss it with you in a rational reasonable manner, but in the past you have shown absolutely no inclination to do that.
Rather you chose to deflect, misrepresent, and take things out of context, to support your views.
Plus you take a very narrow minded view of things that can only be talked about in general, and then you generalize them as if it were true for all parties concerned, not to mention you attribute to me statements that I never make, and it just does not work that way.
You can't do this and have a competent discussion when you fly all over the subject and apply one tenet from one sect and apply it to all sects.
It just does not work that way.

[boutons_deux]

" ing bible god is such an asshole"

the OT God was one crazy, sadistic, vengeful mofo, that's why "Christians" prefer the OT God to that socialist, banker-hating, revolutionary, poor-loving hippy of the NT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrlWOhtj3g

[RandomGuy]

I read the bible plenty.

Maybe you can answer this one:

There are quite a few instances where Yahweh orders the wholesale slaughter of towns.

Joshua 8:1-29
Joshua 6:20-21
Judges 20:48
Exodus 32:26-29

Etc, etc.

If you were ordered by the Lord to hack children to death, would you do it?
[first time question was asked-RG]
Remember:
You can't know God's plan, He could ask this of you tomorrow.

I doubt God would ask of me to murder children. And you're reading with an agenda. You aren't looking for answers. You're looking to find things that are wrong or flawed in your eyes. Those were different times and different sets of laws and different cir stances.

No one knows God's plan.

God commanded others to kill in His name.

You can't know that. Doubt all you want.

The question would remain. If God commanded you to kill children, would you?
second time question was asked-RG]

Really? Really? LOL, and you claim to read the Bible.

Not really an answer to the question.

That is the second or third time you have dodged it.

If God commanded you to kill children, would you?
[third time question was asked-RG]
You can't or won't answer it, and that should tell you something about your belief system.

It won't go away. Yes or no?

Because you are stupid and clearly do not read the Bible. God's plan is very clear in the Bible.

He wouldn't ask me that. Why would I answer a question I know God wouldn't ask me.

You really are an idiot. You do realize that in most cases you referred to were instances of war in a very different time and era.

I am an idiot, but you, who are smarter than I am, cannot answer a simple yes or no question that my childern could easily answer, were I to ask them.


I gon't give a flying what the time or era was, I would say hacking 2 year olds to death with swords is immoral.

You however, have to make that excuse, because you think the God you believe in is some source of morals.

Let's put it this way then, since you aren't being intellectually honest. I can give you some more rope. For the fourth time.

If you were a soldier in Moses' army, would you have hacked infants to death? Would you have thought it moral then, since God commanded it?

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, because evil bible really isn't biased at all.

A website that is biased against smoking and tells you that smoking is bad for you is still right about smoking. Their claims are either valid, or they aren't, independent of their bias.

This is a logical fail, known as an ad hominem logical fallacy.

[RandomGuy]

And for the millionth time, you speak to me as if I am the official spokesman of the Bible and then end all be all to these questions. I don't know all of the answers. Your smugness isn't helping you at all. You act is if you're winning at something just because I can't answer all of your questions. As stated before, there are plenty of people who know more about the subjects at hand. You can find them all around if you really want answers.

You are not the spokesman of the Bible. You are, however, your own man, capable of reaching your own conclusions, and taking responsibility for yourself, your beliefs and your actions.

You have never considered these questions before, because you have only been exposed to people who reinforce your pre-existing beliefs, and don't want you to think for yourself.

Beginning to do so, is hard, very hard. That is why you are struggling so much to answer a simple question.

All I am doing is asking you to step outside your pre-existing beliefs and take a look at what you really believe. If they are worth having, they are worth being honest about.

That is my only agenda. Ultimately, I am concerned about your well-being, and that of others. Believing that the Bible is 100% real is actively harmful, and the excuses you are having to make for it should be a clue to you about how and why that is.

To me, a God worth worshipping would not require me to make excuses, and would allow me to make my case honestly.

[RD2191]

You're an idiot. I honestly don't know what the you're even talking about. All of your questions are stupid and idiotic and make zero sense. I know what I believe and I am sure of what I believe. You ask me if I would murder children if God asked me to do it. My answer is simple. God wouldn't ask me that so that is my answer. All of your examples are also stupid, seeing as at that time the people being instructed to attack were Gods chosen people at the time. Unlike spurraider, you really seem to have some sort of hatred towards God and the Bible. That's on you though.

[leemajors]

You're an idiot. I honestly don't know what the you're even talking about. All of your questions are stupid and idiotic and make zero sense. I know what I believe and I am sure of what I believe. You ask me if I would murder children if God asked me to do it. My answer is simple. God wouldn't ask me that so that is my answer. All of your examples are also stupid, seeing as at that time the people being instructed to attack were Gods chosen people at the time. Unlike spurraider, you really seem to have some sort of hatred towards God and the Bible. That's on you though.

little of this makes sense, you're arguing that he is an asshole and calling him an idiot.

[RandomGuy]

Why won't God heal amputees? What a stupid question.

Does God answer prayers?

[RD2191]

little of this makes sense, you're arguing that he is an asshole and calling him an idiot.

He is an idiot, his questions are also stupid.

[RD2191]

Does God answer prayers?

Of course he does. Does he answer all prayers? No. Is an amputee gonna grow a leg or an arm back just because they pray for it? No. That's not the way things work.

[leemajors]

He is an idiot, his questions are also stupid.

You having no idea how to address them doesn't make them stupid.

[RD2191]

You having no idea how to address them doesn't make them stupid.

Why would I address them when they don't make any sense. All of his questions are answered in the Bible. He doesn't want an answer. He just wants something to argue about.

[RD2191]

Would I murder children if God asked me to? God wouldn't ask me that so how can I answer a question that I will never be asked.

Does God answer prayers? Yes, he does.

Will God give amputees limbs when they ask for them? As of now, no.

[leemajors]

Why would I address them when they don't make any sense. All of his questions are answered in the Bible. He doesn't want an answer. He just wants something to argue about.

He wants you to substantiate your claims, and you can't begin to besides "it's in the bible." From his replies, it appears he is better versed in the bible than yourself. I'm done here.

[RD2191]

He wants you to substantiate your claims, and you can't begin to besides "it's in the bible." From his replies, it appears he is better versed in the bible than yourself. I'm done here.

Yeah, sure he is. What kind of idiot asks why God doesn't heal amputees? He doesn't even know that most of his examples are also prophecy. Yeah, you're done getting your ass handed to you.

[xmas1997]

Rob, owning the trolls as usual and making a laughing stock out of blake and his ignorant troll buddies.

[leemajors]

Yeah, sure he is. What kind of idiot asks why God doesn't heal amputees? He doesn't even know that most of his examples are also prophecy. Yeah, you're done getting your ass handed to you.

I believe the words you are looking for are allegory and/or metaphor. Ass handed to me,

[RD2191]

I believe the words you are looking for are allegory and/or metaphor. Ass handed to me,

I'm talking about his question on murdering children, asshat. The verses he posted are ones of prophecy. Keep it going though.

[RD2191]

Rob, owning the trolls as usual and making a laughing stock out of blake and his ignorant troll buddies.

Someone has to keep these guys in check. Good work on chump over in the Spurs forum.

[RD2191]

Oh any by the way. The prophecy on Babylon stand to this day. Twice Saddam has tried to rebuild it and twice he has failed. Shove that in your pipe and smoke it.

[RD2191]

Maybe you didn't post any passages on Babylon but either way, just an example of Bible prophecy.

[RD2191]

Isaiah 13:19,20

19 And Babylon, the most glorious of kingdoms,The beauty and the pride of the Chal·de′ans,Will be like Sod′om and Go·mor′rah when God overthrew them.20 She will never be inhabited,
Nor will she be a place to reside in throughout all generations.No Arab will pitch his tent there,
And no shepherds will rest their flocks there.

[leemajors]

Oh any by the way. The prophecy on Babylon stand to this day. Twice Saddam has tried to rebuild it and twice he has failed. Shove that in your pipe and smoke it.

The Muslims rebuilt it into the cultural center of their kingdom -it was the largest city in the world in the Middle Ages (pop over 1 million), and it thrived until Gengis Kahn destroyed it and everyone in it that wasn't a scholar.