Spurs refuse Manu permission to play in FIBA tournament

[ManuGinobiliArg]

wishfull thinking.

The impacts of this decision are:

1) Argentina will not go far in the WC, but nobody expected otherwise.
2) Manu will collect his 7 million dolars, as he was suppossed to.

3) The Spurs will not repeat because they will trust an italian guy not to take it personally.

The best thing the Spurs can do is trade him before the playoffs.

"Without Manu at a good level, we can not be champions," said Pop

2003, 2005, 2007, 2014

It is the player most beloved franchise and you will have to change you say that, you're an idiot

[Fpoonsie]

I am ing amazed by the double standard between NBA games and FIBA games.
It was not even a concern when Ginobili played with this injury throughout almost 20 playoff games after it appened in the second game aginst Dallas.
Yet, after he already played that much, quoting him and Pop saying that his injury was minor and unable to affect his play, almost always described as "just some pain in the ankle", it becomes a threatening injury the week after Ginobili announces he will play for Argentina.

If this injury was so serious that he cannot play a game even after SA doctors recovery time is complete (the 8 week period finish at august 15th) wh was he able to play through 21 games inmmediatelly after it happens for the Spurs?

This is a ty rule it should be as the ASG rule when a player has to be out at least the lattest game of his team in order to be allowed to skip it.

So please posters need to shut the F up about the Spurs being honest and all that because they didn´t worry about protecting Manu rght when this happend yet it is a serious threatening injury once they are done compeeting.

A. Spurs pay his salary.
B. You're a got.

[leo_d]

You are wrong, shut up

don´t let the facts get in your way, that can be hard.

[leo_d]

"...
It is the player most beloved franchise...

Tim Duncan say o.

[Mel_13]

I am ing amazed by the double standard between NBA games and FIBA games.

NBA games are of paramount importance to the Spurs and FIBA games are of no importance to them.

There have been several summers where the Spurs would have preferred to see Manu rest, but the rules prevented them from doing anything about it. They had to suck it up and move on.

This summer, the rules give the Spurs the right to keep Manu from playing. He can't do anything about it (assuming he won't retire from the NBA). He'll suck it up and move on.

[Mikeanaro]

did you know he has double nationality (argentinian and italian), and I really don´t think "Ginobili" is native argentinian last name, but maybe im wrong.

70% of the argentinians have Italian heritage, are you a troll or something?

[xmas1997]

70% of the argentinians have Italian heritage, are you a troll or something?

Yet Spanish is the official language in Argentina, not Italian.
Go figure!

[Mikeanaro]

Yet Spanish is the official language in Argentina, not Italian.
Go figure!

At the beginning Spanish conquerors took the place but since the early 20th century Italians came here to find a better life than World War 1 and 2 could offer, the problem is Argentina is sort of under populated but I have no clue on how almost 70% are Italian descendants.

[ElNono]

Good ... now get some rest...

[urunobili]

Good news. He'll get over it and in hindsight it may even fuel better play this season

[benefactor]

NBA games are of paramount importance to the Spurs and FIBA games are of no importance to them.

There have been several summers where the Spurs would have preferred to see Manu rest, but the rules prevented them from doing anything about it. They had to suck it up and move on.

This summer, the rules give the Spurs the right to keep Manu from playing. He can't do anything about it (assuming he won't retire from the NBA). He'll suck it up and move on.

The goods. Door swings both ways. Manu has spent plenty of summers playing for his country. No reason to get butthurt because the Spurs are doing the exact same thing Manu has done to them...and Manu should be just as understanding as the Spurs have been.

[Fireball]

hopefully he is not too pissed about that decision ... thankfully Manu is such a fierce compe or that he will forget about that as soon as he is back on the court in a Spurs uniform ... still did not like how all that with the several doctors went down

[Virgil]

don´t let the facts get in your way, that can be hard.

Manu was born, raised, and his family lives in Argentina. His mother language is spanish. He played for the argentine national team. He sings the argentine anthem every time. He writes for an argentine newspaper. His passport is argentine, all the charity work he does is argentina related, he is resting in her home town Bahia Blanca, Argentina, most of his closest friends are from argentina, and when playing in the NBA and visiting other cities, he goes out for dinner with his fellow argentine players, not italian...and so on...

[Budkin]

Good. We need Manu fully recovered if we're going to finally repeat.

[Sportman]

o everyone, I haven't posted in this forum for quite a few years but I still read the posts and comments spurs' fan make in this website. Last time I posted I think I had quite a heated argument with another fan for my stupidity and stubbornness to defend my sport idol, Manu Ginobili. I am an Argentinean living in Canada and to be honest with all of you I think the Spurs made the right decision by refusing Manu to play the WC. I honestly think that Manu doesn't owe anything to our country, he has been the most successful Basketball player in the history of our nation, from the NT's point of view as well as his NBA career with the Spurs. He is 37 years old and I don't think his body would have endured WC and an entire NBA season. Manu has played consistently throughout the last 15-16 years with our NT and Argentineans should only thank Manu for his commitment and sacrifice to represent our country as well as the Spurs for allowing him to do so. I firmly believe that the Spurs are a model NBA franchise and despite the fact Manu is one of their employees, I am pretty sure that the Spurs are also concerned with his health. Thank you Manu for all that you have given to our Basketball history and thank you to the Spurs for having allowed him to become the player he is.

Cant wait for another NBA season with Messina as assistant coach to Popovich!

[leo_d]

Manu was born, raised, and his family lives in Argentina. His mother language is spanish. He played for the argentine national team. He sings the argentine anthem every time. He writes for an argentine newspaper. His passport is argentine, all the charity work he does is argentina related, he is resting in her home town Bahia Blanca, Argentina, most of his closest friends are from argentina, and when playing in the NBA and visiting other cities, he goes out for dinner with his fellow argentine players, not italian...and so on...

dude you take it to personally, please don´t tell me you, as the "70%" of argentinians, have italian roots, because the irony will be too much.

[Biernutz]

Manu should not play and the Spurs should not have to tell him no. As of Wed. he still had pain in the foot. Why take
a chance of ruining his last season by playing in a FIBA tourney..If it was the Olympics the Spurs would not
have asked him not to play. This is the first time the Spurs have asked any of it's international players not
to play in international ball in the off season. Manu is such a compe or that you have to sit him down to
save him from himself. It's a surprise that in the times when he had the ankle injury's that he was not playing
in a wheel chair league....I think he should be on the board of the Argentina team this year and use his time and
energy in turning around their program so they are set for the future and ready for the next Olympics........

[xmas1997]

Manu does not HAVE to play to help that team. They aren't going very far this year anyway, barring a miracle of course, even if he played.
So have fun over there, Manu, but don't play, and guard your health.

[-21-]

Just wanted to post this since some believe Manu will fight Spurs decision.

San Antonio Spurs guard Manu Ginobili will not play for Argentina at FIBA World Cup

Manu Ginobili will not play for Argentina at the FIBA World Cup because of a stress fracture in his right leg that has bothered the San Antonio Spurs guard since the playoffs.


The Argentine Basketball Federation announced the decision on Thursday. The World Cup will be played starting Aug. 30 in Spain, and Ginobili's loss is a big blow for Argentina's chances.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2014/0...at-fiba-world/

[-21-]

Never mind, already confirmed on the previous page of thread. Sorry.

[hater]

eliminated

[ElNono]

Now ARG really doesn't have a shot

[EVAY]

And to top it all off, today Argentina defaulted on its debt and worldwide markets are taking a hit because of it and the Russian/middle east situation.

Wow. I'm sure it was all due to Manu not playing.

[Kindergarten Cop]

I am ing amazed by the double standard between NBA games and FIBA games.
It was not even a concern when Ginobili played with this injury throughout almost 20 playoff games after it appened in the second game aginst Dallas.
Yet, after he already played that much, quoting him and Pop saying that his injury was minor and unable to affect his play, almost always described as "just some pain in the ankle", it becomes a threatening injury the week after Ginobili announces he will play for Argentina.

If this injury was so serious that he cannot play a game even after SA doctors recovery time is complete (the 8 week period finish at august 15th) wh was he able to play through 21 games inmmediatelly after it happens for the Spurs?

This is a ty rule it should be as the ASG rule when a player has to be out at least the lattest game of his team in order to be allowed to skip it.

So please posters need to shut the F up about the Spurs being honest and all that because they didn´t worry about protecting Manu rght when this happend yet it is a serious threatening injury once they are done compeeting.

I apologize, a million times over, to every poster that frequents this forum if my stance came off as ANYTHING REMOTELY close to this. Sometimes you need to step back (way back) and view things objectively to realize what is going on - and while I sadly still agree with kaji157 that there is a "double standard" or some form of hypocrisy (which is admittedly within the rights of those involved), it pains me to think that others may have taken my POV as anything resembling this.

kaji157, I'm sure you are a great person and you are obviously passionate about the Spurs (or at least about one of the Spurs' players) - but you might consider dialing it back down a few decibels. I like your intensity, but let's see if we can harness and control it.

[will_spurs]

I love the irony in this thread:
a) Manu only plays 100%
b) the Spurs decision will affect his play next season

Sorry but you can't have it both ways. Either Manu is always ON, or he isn't.