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Yeah, they are. Doesn't really stop the ones that want to.
for s sake people are having an actual discussion! gtfo
Yeah, they are. Doesn't really stop the ones that want to.
Then you're an idiot for calling anyone else out on their knowledge.
This is entirely false and extremely stupid and misinformed to think and say this.
No Catholic "worships" any other en y other than God, period!
We do believe that God is a Trinity in the spiritual sense, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. but we only "worship" God.
Catholics appreciate, they love, they use, they adore, and they pray "THROUGH" Mary (the mother of Jesus Christ), but not "TO" Mary, and they ABSOLUTELY DO NOT "WORSHIP" Mary.
That is the epitome of stupidity to say this.
It isn't even a dumb opinion, it is a blatant falsehood and misconception and lie.
Actually I know most Catholics pray to Mary herself.
From my experience anyways. And Mary is mentioned nowhere in the Bible as a mediator or someone that should be prayed through.
not one person?
You didn't read what I said at all, lmao
There is nothing contradictory here IMHO.
Lol
Why are you waiting to become a Christian? Join today.
It took me a looooong ass time in my life to understand that not everyone thinks the same as I do, you need to remember that. RG is an extremely logical thinker and he asked you a yes or no question. To him that requires a yes or no answer. When you reply with an explanation and exclude the yes or no, to him that is dodging the question. So it's not that he was mocking, it's that you weren't answering.
Don't get me wrong either, guys like RG can drive a more emotional thinker absolutely ing insane, you just have to remember that the feeling is mutual...and yet another reason to not discuss religion.
Yes, I did read what you said, and even quoted it. If you meant to say something different, then you should have said that.
these two sentences in a row are gold!
i like how xmas knows exactly what every catholic does. ever.
See Rob, this is an example of not even acknowledging what someone said and then emotionally going off on it. The quote that Xmas is referring to was just an observation and Xmas goes off on a tangent about how stupid it was.
I too know people that pray directly to Mary, but according to Xmas, it's his way or the highway. In religion, this is referred to as "being a ing asshole".
Johnsmith is correct.
You just didn't understand it.
I also think that I got to you so much that you had to put me on ignore is ing hilarious.
How's the job hunt going?
Xmas is a good dude, imo. But nowhere in the Bible does it say that Mary should be worshiped or used as a mediator between oneself and God. Mary is not the mother of God. She was simply a good woman who was used by God to bring Jesus to earth. She isn't anymore special than any other true Christian.
That's fine...but what Xmas is saying is that no Catholic anywhere could possibly misunderstand Mary's role and that nowhere is there a Catholic that could possibly be praying directly to Mary.
They are not "graven images", they are artistic renderings, like the artistic rendering of a proposed stadium is not the blueprints of the actual stadium.
Exodus 20:4, 5
4 “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth.5 You must not bow down to them nor be enticed to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation of those who hate me,
Isaiah 44:13-19
13 The wood-carver stretches the measuring line, tracing out the pattern with red chalk.He works it with a wood scraper and traces it with a compass.He patterns it after a man,With the beauty of a man,
To sit in a house.14 There is one whose work is to cut down cedars.He selects a certain type of tree, an oak,
And he lets it grow strong among the trees of the forest.He plants a laurel tree, and the rain makes it grow.15 Then it becomes fuel for a man to make fires.He takes part of it to warm himself;
He builds a fire and bakes bread.But he also makes a god and worships it.He makes it into a carved image, and he bows down before it.16 Half of it he burns up in a fire;
With that half he roasts the meat that he eats, and he is satisfied.He also warms himself and says:“Ah! I am warm as I watch the fire.”17 But the rest of it he makes into a god, into his carved image.He bows down to it and worships it.He prays to it and says:“Save me, for you are my god.”18 They know nothing, they understand nothing,Because their eyes are sealed shut and they cannot see,
And their heart has no insight.19 No one reflects in his heart
Or has knowledge or understanding, saying:“Half of it I burned up in a fire,
And on its coals I baked bread and roasted meat to eat.Should I, then, make the rest of it into a detestable thing?Should I worship a block of wood from a tree?”
" Hail Holy Queen
Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of mercy,our life, our sweetness and our hope.To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve:to thee do we send up our sighs,mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.Turn then, most gracious Advocate,thine eyes of mercy toward us,and after this our exile,show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus.O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary! Amen."
Lol Queen
Xmas at ude is what turns me off from church to be honest. If there is something out there that brings me closer to God or spirituality or whatever, who is he to tell me I'm wrong.
Rob, do you think the bible is the "infallible Word of God"?
In other words, do you think it is inspired by God and thus none of it can be wrong?
Just asking, because depending on what you say, I have a point to make.
cool, whatever makes you feel good, tbh.
I'll think about you while I'm watching nfl pre game.
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