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    Tiago = overpaid
    Diaw = right amount
    Manu = right amount (despite what anybody else thinks)
    Parker = either right amount or even slightly underpaid

    Let's be honest, if Spurs signed Parker for 12 mil a year for 3 years like all you guys have been ing about, that extra 3 mil would not have been used to sign another player anyways. Spurs still currently have the MLE that they still haven't used yet. Parker DESERVES 15 mil a year, I don't understand why you guys are crying over this.

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    I don't understand why you guys are crying over this.
    Manu s tbh

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    I know the posters complaining about the deal are just trolls, but let's just analyze this for a moment . If TP9 hits free agency at the end of next season, what do you think teams would offer him? $12-$15 million a year? LOL.

    Tony can get a monster contract from a number of teams in free agency. And without Tony, the Spurs le window will close for the foreseeable future, and who knows if and when it would reopen. Don't the trolls like les? TP is the best point guard in the league, and even if they don't agree with that, he is easily the best point guard for the Spurs.

    So tbh Tony is again being underpaid in a material respect, but it was nice to see the Spurs give him the max extension as a way of showing their faith in him and appreciation for him.

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    As it pertains to the MLE, I'm putting this scenario forward in a situation where a team still has it's MLE in mid-season and does not plan on using it for any other reason. It would almost make it like a free exception, and a team wouldn't have to risk using the following years exception which would likely be more valuable.

    Having looked at the non-Bird exception, I think my scenario falls apart somewhat. A non-bird exception for your own free agent is as good as the MLE if the player is already making an MLE or higher salary, so the situation I described wouldn't be logical.

    In my gut I feel like there's a situation where it could work to a teams benefit, but I can't think of one.
    Don't sell yourself short, yet. The reason I proposed this scenario in the first place wasn't to get around Bird rights. Instead, it was a way to give a player money that wouldn't count against the cap in later years. In my Green hypothetical, the Spurs would actually save a good deal off their 2015 cap by essentially giving Green a huge first-year salary.

    For players making bigger salaries, the benefits to their team are greater. The best examples I could find for players who'd take such a deal are Bass and Thornton. Both make salaries in the $6M-$8M range. Both would jump at $28M/4 deals in FA. Both could well have gotten such contracts from bad teams if they were FAs this off-season. While their current teams could not afford to sign them for MLE deals (neither has the full MLE left), provided that they could, using my hypothetical contract would save $2M-$3M in cap space in subsequent years.

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    Tony Parker the #2 best player this franchise has ever seen
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    Wasn't serious *sigh*

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    Indeed. It brings up an interesting (to me) hypothetical: Would it be possible for the Spurs to waive Green and then re-sign him using their MLE? Yes, I know that's a terrible idea for multiple reasons, not the least of which is the fact that he'd be claimed by the first team with cap space or a TE (and teams might even try to dump players to create a TE for him).

    But provided that is was both possible and not inadvisable, the Spurs could offer Green a $22M/4 contract using their MLE, which would essentially be a $26M/4 deal from his perspective, as he would also pocket his current salary if he made it through waivers.

    His contract breakdown would be as follows:

    2014: actual salary--6.65M cap salary--9.33M
    2015: actual salary--6.88M cap salary--5.54M
    2016: actual salary--7.12M cap salary--5.78M
    2017: actual salary--6.02M cap salary--6.02M

    That'd save a lot of cap space, but as I said, impractical to the max. I bet Morey would try it, though.
    I thought the rule was something along the lines of:
    Team A waives Player X with guaranteed contract. If Player X makes it through waivers, then Team A owes Player X his entire contract and affects their salary cap for the duration of the contract. If Team B signs Player X, then Team A's obligation to Player X in $ owed and salary cap hit is reduced by the amount of Team B's contract.

    So in the given scenario, we would be both Team A and Team B, so our total obligation and affect on the salary cap would still be the original contract, since the new contract is less than the original.
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    Tony's sustained excellence can keep on rollin'

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    Yeah, it would have been fun trotting Robin Lopez out there to try to guard Dirk and Aldridge instead those first two series

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    Tony earns every cent.

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    I thought the rule was something along the lines of:
    Team A waives Player X with guaranteed contract. If Player X makes it through waivers, then Team A owes Player X his entire contract and affects their salary cap for the duration of the contract. If Team B signs Player X, then Team A's obligation to Player X in $ owed and salary cap hit is reduced by the amount of Team B's contract.

    So in the given scenario, we would be both Team A and Team B, so our total obligation and affect on the salary cap would still be the original contract, since the new contract is less than the original.
    What you're describing is the right of off-set. The Spurs could indeed claim such a right when they waived Green and only have to pay about $23 Million over the four years instead of $26 Million (as teams can't offset the full amount to matter what other contracts the player gets from another team). But the Spurs wouldn't do that in this scenario, which is why Green would go for it.

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    i'm pretty sure both Splitter and Manu earned last year's paychecks and then some
    Spurs would not have gotten pass Dallas if not for those two. Considering the money the Spurs made after the 1st round, I would say they definitely earned their pay checks.
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    Thank Splitter and Diaw for that
    And for the 2014 le

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    Pretty ing great deal to get Parker locked down for 3 years, $43 million. His market value would be significantly higher next summer in free agency unless he tears an ACL or something.

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    San Antonio Spurs All-Star guard Tony Parker has signed a three-year contract extension worth $43.3 million, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

    Parker will earn $12.5 million in the 2014-15 season, and his extension will start in the 2015-16 season. He will make $13.4 million, $14.4 million and $15.4 million during the extension, a league source said.

    Parker, 32, played a pivotal role in the Spurs' fifth championship this season. He averaged 16.7 points a game for the Spurs, with whom he's played his 13-year NBA career. Parker has been an All-Star six times.

    Parker's representatives with CAA finalized a deal with Spurs president R.C. Buford over the past few days, sources said.

    San Antonio has reached extensions to bring back several of Parker's teammates this summer, including Boris Diaw, Patty Mills and Matt Bonner.

    NBA Finals MVP Kawhi Leonard is eligible for his rookie extension before the start of the season, and he could be in line for a deal in the neighborhood of a maximum contract. Leonard could become a restricted free agent in the summer of 2015.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources...184038441.html

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    All of the Big 3 are Spurs for life. Awesome.

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    Yup tony ,Manu and Timmy going out together .nice pact for tp9

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    I'm down with this... taking care of our own shows future players that this is how we operate. This will have long term benefits in free agency as well as getting our younger to sign for less.

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    Do you think Danny will get one too?
    Danny will become a free agent. I doesn't make sense for him to extend because it is based on his current salary. If he has another good season he can expect something 6 to 8 million range I would imagine. Couldn't do that with an extension.

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    Lets go repeat so no one can ever about anyones contract ever again!!!!

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    This is pretty much exactly what I expected and it's a good deal. He's been mostly underpaid on his current contract and though he might be slightly overpaid on the back half of this one, the cap continues to rise, an extra few million per isn't going to cost them a significant player and he's earned somewhat of a lifetime achievement payment anyway.

    Danny can't be extended (only players on contracts at least 4 years long can be extended). He'll be a free agent next summer.
    Maybe so, but they can agree in principal to the framework of a contract anytime.

    You heard it here first: 4/24.
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    I'll wait for the official announcement from tspence.
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