Foundational Falshoods of Creationism

[xmas1997]

^troll post

Link?

[RD2191]

as he said (and i said), evil isn't some absolute thing like you make it out to be. its all a human idea, and each person has their own definitions of what is evil and what isn't.

So then how can RG claim God is evil for killing humans when in his eyes humans are animals? By his standards he is also evil.

[cantthinkofanything]

Our forefathers fought and died for us to have the freedom to waste time on messageboards.

maybe...but I get this nagging feeling my time could be better spent elsewhere...or maybe not since I'm at work

[spurraider21]

So then how can RG claim God is evil for killing humans when in his eyes humans are animals? By his standards he is also evil.

what's wrong with that? i think he's challenging the notion of God being"above" humans as far as morality/love, etc

[RD2191]

what's wrong with that? i think he's challenging the notion of God being"above" humans as far as morality/love, etc

I doubt it, either way. He doesn't make any sense because how can a God that he doesn't believe in be evil?

[spurraider21]

I doubt it, either way. He doesn't make any sense because how can a God that he doesn't believe in be evil?

for the sake of argument, tbh. your belief in God is largely based on the notion that God isn't evil, i assume.

by accepting the premise of god and using excerpts from the bible, he is showing you that the god you believe (and the acts you believe he made) can be seen as evil. i argue about god all the time even though im not a believer

[RD2191]

for the sake of argument, tbh. your belief in God is largely based on the notion that God isn't evil, i assume.

by accepting the premise of god and using excerpts from the bible, he is showing you that the god you believe (and the acts you believe he made) can be seen as evil.

Not really, because I have clearly stated that the killing was done under certain cir stances. They were also different times. He just wants to paint God as some asshole murderer when in reality he has no basis for his claims.

[DisAsTerBot]

I doubt it, either way. He doesn't make any sense because how can a God that he doesn't believe in be evil?

seriously? he's obviously talking about bible god. he's not saying the bible doesn't exist

[xmas1997]

what's wrong with that? i think he's challenging the notion of God being"above" humans as far as morality/love, etc

In that case Rob has a point.
How can RG, or anyone for that matter, challenge any notion of God without first acknowledging that God is?
That would be silly.
Logically you would have to first believe in Him before you can challenge any notions of Him.
Otherwise it is equivalent to challenging the notion of what the comic book character Dennis the Menace thinks, for all the good it would do.

[Blake]

So then how can RG claim God is evil for killing humans when in his eyes humans are animals? By his standards he is also evil.

God says killing people is evil.

God killed people.

Therefore God is evil.

You don't do well on IQ tests do you.

[Blake]

In that case Rob has a point.
How can RG, or anyone for that matter, challenge any notion of God without first acknowledging that God is?
That would be silly.
Logically you would have to first believe in Him before you can challenge any notions of Him.
Otherwise it is equivalent to challenging the notion of what the comic book character Dennis the Menace thinks, for all the good it would do.

The discussion is based on Bible God, dumbass.

Belief in him is not necessary to say that the character of God in the Bible is evil.

[RD2191]

seriously? he's obviously talking about bible god. he's not saying the bible doesn't exist

I know he isn't. But he is saying a God he doesn't believe in is evil.

[RD2191]

God says killing people is evil.

God killed people.

Therefore God is evil.

You don't do well on IQ tests do you.

When did God say killing people was evil?

[xmas1997]

The discussion is based on Bible God, dumbass.

You don't understands "comparisons", do you?
That's what I thought.
But if you want to "confine" this discussion to bible God, then why are you even sticking your two cents in when everyone knows you are a few enchiladas short of a Mexican plate?

[Blake]

I know he isn't. But he is saying a God he doesn't believe in is evil.

The character in the Bible known as "God" is evil.

Smhlol

[RD2191]

In that case Rob has a point.
How can RG, or anyone for that matter, challenge any notion of God without first acknowledging that God is?
That would be silly.
Logically you would have to first believe in Him before you can challenge any notions of Him.
Otherwise it is equivalent to challenging the notion of what the comic book character Dennis the Menace thinks, for all the good it would do.

Very good points.

[Blake]

You don't understands "comparisons", do you?
That's what I thought.
But if you want to "confine" this discussion to bible God, then why are you even sticking your two cents in when everyone knows you are a few enchiladas short of a Mexican plate?

your one-liners are terrible

[Blake]

When did God say killing people was evil?

It's one of the Ten Commandments.

[RD2191]

The character in the Bible known as "God" is evil.

Smhlol

So, how is killing evil when himself said killing was necessary to survive?

[Blake]

So, how is killing evil when himself said killing was necessary to survive?

Wut

[RD2191]

It's one of the Ten Commandments.

So, God says thou shall not murder. There is a difference between killing and murdering.

[xmas1997]

The Sixth Commandment says: Thou shalt not kill.

[RD2191]

Wut

RG said killing was necessary to survive.

[Blake]

So, God says thou shall not murder. There is a difference between killing and murdering.

k, God "murdered" people too.

, I feel like I'm teaching 2nd grade Sunday School.

[xmas1997]

So, God says thou shall not murder. There is a difference between killing and murdering.

Correct and this is another reason not to trust "man's" interpretations of the bible especially since most men have an agenda, and because translating into various languages changes the interpretations even further.