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    Dat ebola though.

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    No, but under the cir stances it was okay and was not murder.
    Lol under the cir stances.

    basically God cared more about getting the animals on the ark than children.

    God forbid he just snap his fingers and make more animals.

    Or better yet, just not create evil in the first place.

    Lol rob.

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    to make the argument, they accept the premise that god exists, and that humans are different than the animals.. the point they make is that even in the christian image (god exists, made us, different than animals), god's will/actions could easily be seen as evil, in some cases
    Which brings us back to the argument of whether the bible is literal or if it is allegory.

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    Lol under the cir stances.

    basically God cared more about getting the animals on the ark than children.

    God forbid he just snap his fingers and make more animals.

    Or better yet, just not create evil in the first place.

    Lol rob.
    Humans are animals though in your eyes. So both were of equal value.

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    Which brings us back to the argument of whether the bible is literal or if it is allegory.
    from what i gather, you don't take it literally, meaning you disagree with not only the non-believers such as myself (since you have faith to some degree, and i have none... but also believers like robdiaz who unlike you take it literally)

    so which parts do you think are fake? genesis? christ? moses? noah?

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    Humans are animals though in your eyes. So both were of equal value.
    he never said that. who decided that all animals are of "equal value?" and every individual can decide on his own what the "value" of each life is. heck not every human is of equal value, tbh

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    he never said that. who decided that all animals are of "equal value?" and every individual can decide on his own what the "value" of each life is. heck not every human is of equal value, tbh
    Who is he to make that call? According to his beliefs humans are a more evolved animal. Why is he giving one animal more value than another?

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    In order for someone to claim God is evil for killing humans they must accept that humans are not animals. If that's the case then how can they believe in evolution?

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    Humans are animals though in your eyes. So both were of equal value.
    who said all animals are equal?

    your assuming that this is anyone's logic is re ed.

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    Who is he to make that call? According to his beliefs humans are a more evolved animal. Why is he giving one animal more value than another?
    we aren't "more evolved" we're just more successfully evolved than others. new species have been born since human arrival, such as dogs.

    and who are you to tell Blake how to evaluate value of life? everybody sees it differently. i imagine you find human life more valuable than a serial killer would, for example. everyone has their own "moral compass"

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    we aren't "more evolved" we're just more successfully evolved than others. new species have been born since human arrival, such as dogs.

    and who are you to tell Blake how to evaluate value of life? everybody sees it differently. i imagine you find human life more valuable than a serial killer would, for example. everyone has their own "moral compass"
    Who is he to tell me God is evil?

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    Who is he to tell me God is evil?
    well, if he asked a man to kill his child (even though he stopped Abraham before he actually went through with it, still ed up imo to put him through that emotional dilemma which scarred him for life ), thats basically evil by any standards

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    well, if he asked a man to kill his child (even though he stopped Abraham before he actually went through with it, still ed up imo to put him through that emotional dilemma which scarred him for life ), thats basically evil by any standards
    But why? Don't people kill animals all of the time? I'm pretty sure a cow doesn't want to die.

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    disclaimer: i dont believe in the story of god or abraham tbh, but notice how im just making an argument by accepting the premise. sorta like how we call fictional novel characters good/evil

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    In order for someone to claim God is evil for killing humans they must accept that humans are not animals. If that's the case then how can they believe in evolution?
    Just awful logic

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    Just awful logic
    How so?

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    But why? Don't people kill animals all of the time? I'm pretty sure a cow doesn't want to die.
    according to christianity, humans arent "just another animal" though. so in the scope of christianity, ordering someone to kill a human is very different.

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    according to christianity, humans arent "just another animal" though. so in the scope of christianity, ordering someone to kill a human is very different.
    But he isn't a Christian, he doesn't even believe in God, so how can he say God is evil? And how can he say God is evil for killing children when to him children are animals. He kills animals. So he is evil?

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    In order for someone to claim God is evil for killing humans they must accept that humans are not animals. If that's the case then how can they believe in evolution?
    yeah, this is bad logic. neither blake or i believe in god (or at least the christian version). but we are demonstrating that IF the word of the bible is true, there are some very questionable actions on god's behalf which could very well paint him as evil.

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    But he isn't a Christian, he doesn't even believe in God, so how can he say God is evil? And how can he say God is evil for killing children when to him children are animals. He kills animals. So he is evil?
    i dont believe the character of Agent Smith in the matrix is real... but i think he's evil

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    yeah, this is bad logic. neither blake or i believe in god (or at least the christian version). but we are demonstrating that IF the word of the bible is true, there are some very questionable actions on god's behalf which could very well paint him as evil.
    But in your eyes it isn't. So how can you claim God is evil if you don't believe in him? Either way, how can God be evil for killing when humans with or without God have killed for a very long time?

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    But in your eyes it isn't. So how can you claim God is evil if you don't believe in him? Either way, how can God be evil for killing when humans with or without God have killed for a very long time?
    i dont believe the character of Agent Smith in the matrix is real... but i think he's evil

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    disclaimer: i dont believe in the story of god or abraham tbh, but notice how im just making an argument by accepting the premise. sorta like how we call fictional novel characters good/evil
    you just want to believe the feel good parts of the Bible

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    It's illogical. Even if the bible is just a story how can a person say God is evil for killing when humans have killed to survive since the beginning of time?

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    It's illogical. Even if the bible is just a story how can a person say God is evil for killing when humans have killed to survive since the beginning of time?
    the bible holds humans on a different level than other animals. within that context, god is evil for killing innocent humans

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