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I specifically said that i'm not referring to symbolism or allegory. The fact that you keep bringing it up tells me you are afraid to answer a yes or no question
Another straw man.
Is that the extent of what you characters are capable of?
That is sad for you, but not surprising to me in the slightest.
I specifically said that i'm not referring to symbolism or allegory. The fact that you keep bringing it up tells me you are afraid to answer a yes or no question
you answered my question? was it a yes, or was it a no? i must have missed itStraw man again.
I never said you called me a name.
Plus I answered your question.
Don't you realize yet that "symbolism" and "allegory" cannot be answered in the black and white, because it is primarily made up of the gray?
There are no yes and no answers when it comes to allegory.
You might "wish" there were, but you would be wasting your time.
Wish in one hand, and in the other, and tell me which will fill up faster.
You still don't "get it", do you?
You cannot ask a yes or no question when it comes to an allegorical story.
What is so hard for you to not understand about this?
I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior.
Its not logical.
Its based on a faith that's hard to explain.
But I believe this. I am human.
End.
Move on.
Not that difficult.
i seriously doubt you have any understanding of what the word allegory means
You still don't "get it", do you?
You cannot ask a yes or no question when it comes to an allegorical story.
What is so hard for you to not understand about this?
See my post #1242.
You can doubt all you want to, until the cows come home for all I care, but it won't change anything.
i'm asking what YOU believe, not how others may or may not interpret it. do YOU believe that God actually spoke with Abraham and ordered him to kill his son.
Yes. or No.
i literally need a one word answer. anything more is just babbling nonsense. i'm not asking you to declare a historical fact. i'm asking about YOUR belief
Yes. or No.
Very interesting read guys, don't get many of these around here...
Allegory:You can doubt all you want to, until the cows come home for all I care, but it won't change anything.
1
: the expression by means of symbolic fictional figures and actions of truths or generalizations about human existence;also : an instance (as in a story or painting) of such expression
2
: a symbolic representation
if one believes the biblical tales are allegorical, that means the stories aren't meant to be taken as historical or factual, but rather to teach lessons or morals. for instance, most know the tale of the Fox and the Sour Grapes. we don't tell this story because its an historical event... but rather its an allegorical tale to demonstrate that people will often despise something because they're unattainable
You want a "literal" answer for something that is allegorical.
That is like saying I want you to be black when I am white.
You are missing the whole point of allegory.
It is symbolic.
It is impossible to make something into the substantial when it is made up of the symbolic.
Unless you are God, of course.
Then you can do anything.
if it is symbolic, then it merely REPRESENTS something, but isn't historical or factual. see my previous post
the fact that you can't just tell me whether or not you believe in the story is telling enough. you prefer to dance than to talk and have a normal conversation.
Is it possible to say, " I don't know."
Or you can't do this on a message board because it is somehow, a defeat...
This is an opinion I do not share with you, but ironical thing about it being symbolic is that it is neither historical, factual, or fictional or fake. It is paradoxical if you will.
There are many many paradoxes in the bible, but not only the bible, but other religious books as well. This becomes more and more apparent the more you try to understand it.
I am not trying to evade answering your questions as you accuse, I am in fact answering them, but not in the way that you want me to that can give you a "concrete" view of my stance.
You are welcome to continue to criticize and make all the false accusations you want to, but it won't change anything. All it will do is make you appear contentious and foolish IMHO.
We share a lot in common in other areas like upstairs on the Raiders and maybe Anderson, but down here we do not see eye to eye.
There is nothing wrong with that, I was once an atheist too, but no longer, I saw the error of my ways.
I am not trying to change what you believe or disbelieve, I am only sharing with you and others what I am able to share with my limited abilities due to the fact I am human.
it's not an opinion. i'm telling you what the world allegorical means. the definition isn't up to interpretation.
you are still dodging the question. i'm asking you if you think that god actually spoke to a man named abraham and told him to kill his son. you are responding as if you are a dog chasing his tail
You have my answer many times now already.
And my dictionary definition stands the test of time.
So take that for what you will, no skin off my back no matter how many false accusations you throw at me.
They will still be false.
I have used different words to explain and yet you still do not understand.
You may as well admit now that you will probably never understand, or more probably do not want to understand.
That is fine with me. I tried on your behalf. But you have a free will just as I do, and you choose not to understand, no matter how many times I tell you the answer.
It is no longer my problem at this stage but yours.
So go ahead, make some more of your falsehoods and attribute them to me.
Apparently whatever I tell you just goes over your head anyway.
you have yet to provide a yes or no answer to my yes or no question.
It's a simple yes or no question. Whether a story is an allegory or not is irrelevant to one's belief in it.
You type so much yet say so little.
Yes and no.
There.
Happy now?
That's the best you're going to get.
But I am pretty sure the other answers better expressed my view for those who are capable of understanding deeper issues.
Wow, haven't seen you on here in a while.
You were always popular with the straw man explanations too as I recall.
But glad to see you back.
Still up to no good with the false accusations too I see.
I will take that as a complement in the interests of civility.
sure, that's a possibility too. heck, i can't tell you with a certainty that god doesnt exist, and that he never spoke with a man named abraham. but there's no really reason to believe so
i'm asking if he believes it happened, not if he knows for certain if it happened, though. in that regard, "i dont know" is really a weak answer
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