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To think, the Spurs almost traded TP for Jason Kidd.
Thankfully, Kidd's (then) wife realized she couldn't stand SA.
Then she realized she couldn't stand Kidd.
Congrats, TP.
To think, the Spurs almost traded TP for Jason Kidd.
Thankfully, Kidd's (then) wife realized she couldn't stand SA.
Then she realized she couldn't stand Kidd.
Congrats, TP.
Anyone complaining about spurs over paying anyone on current roster is just Nba dumb
If you haven't noticed, there's a LOT of that in this forum.
Tiago is worth 8-9 mil a year, but I just don't think his contract should've been for that long of a period. That's what I meant by being overpaid
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Would Tony be eligible for a "No trade" clause? Can they add those on extensions? Would the press be informed if such a clause was put in the contract?
Can't be added in an extension. He would have had to become a free agent next summer and sign a new contract.
This extension will take Tony to 17 seasons in the NBA and he's never been a free agent.
So the annual salary isn't too high, but you're upset that we signed him through his entire prime rather than just a portion of it
Cheers.That's what I suspected (about the the no trade clause).
I never realized Tony had never gotten to free agency. That says something about him, our front office, and how they see each other.
It should have been a shorter contract for him to play better and be motivated to get an even better contract to prove his worth. That said, I do understand the contract that he was given since Tim Duncan was still undecided whether he was going to retire or not, so Tiago was insurance in essence. Also, on the contrary I don't believe Tiago is in his prime, I believe he can still improve somewhat - the shorter contract would motivate him.
Just love how the Spurs operate. They have re-signed/extended some of the best players in the NBA this offseason. Tony, Manu, Tim, Boris, Patty and hardly anyone has even noticed. Quiet and under the radar with no drama. Good stuff. I sincerely hope Tony retires a Spur and It looks like that's the way it will play out.
If cap in 2016 is around $80-85M and Splitter, Leonard, and Parker combine for around $40M the remainder is still a boatload of space to toy with
...and that silver and black train keeps on rollin' along...
That's a solid extension for the spurs and TP. He has always privileged safety and contract extension rather than hitting free agency market. In that sense it's not a surprise.
So the Spurs are paying him for past performance? Kinda like LA did with Bryant?
Surprising for a frugal small-market team with championship aspirations.
He's gonna be hobbling around the court with a walker for about 40 games when he's making $15 mill at 36.
But whatever, Spurs won't be contending then anyways. And I like the "Spur for life" aspect. That's pretty rare in any sport these days
Seems a little high considering what he adds to the team now and what TD and Manu add.
Their figures are much lower. He will be making twice what manu makes and 1.5 duncan. But in a way it shows Leonard that the team gives back when you pay for the team.
What i donīt understand is that the spurs always needed their contracts to be resembling the production of the player in order to be successfull.
I donīt understand how they expect to be a compe ive team after Tim and Manu go with TP and KL taking so much of the cap. Specially Tony. It just doesnīt addd up very well to me.
Anyways, canīt complain about any of the Big 3 contracts and it looks like Manu took a bigger paycut than we thought.
The huge difference is that Parker still plays a lot more minutes and shoulders a lot more of the load than TD and Manu, both in the offseason and in the playoffs. And despite haters here saying he's going to decline fast, there's no sign of that just yet. Tony has a reliable jumpshot, is improving on 3s and is great at setting the pace: all skills that he won't lose with age.
Spurs front office playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers. Locking up TP for the remainder of his prime at a fair price especially with cap going up.
The relevant comparisons regarding Tim and Manu's contracts are to the ones Tim and Manu had when they were TP's age. Tim was still making $22M per year in his last contract year ending in the 2011 (or 2012? - can't remember exactly) playoffs. Manu was still making $14M per year in the contract year ending in 2013. During both of those final years of their respective contracts, Tony was carrying the team for somewhere between $10M-$11M per year.
A comparison of the big 3's salary at the same age:
- age 30: Tim $17.5m Manu $9.0m Tony $12.5m
- age 31: Tim $19.0m Manu $9.9m Tony $12.5m
- age 32: Tim $20.6m Manu $10.7m Tony $12.5m
- age 33: Tim $22.2m Manu $11.9m Tony $13.4m
- age 34: Tim $18.7m Manu $13.0m Tony $14.4m
- age 35: Tim $21.2m Manu $14.1m Tony $15.4m
- age 36: Tim $9.7m Manu $7.5m Tony ???
There's nothing inconsistent in the way the Big 3 has been treated by the Spurs. They all maxxed out at age 33-35. And Tony is still on schedule to get a big paycut when he's 36, like Tim and Manu.
He only just turned 32, so he will spent the vast majority of his $15m year as a 34 year old. I still expect good production from 34 year old Tony, but if he does begin to decline I suspect that will be the first year we see it. If he continues his quality play for the next two years, which I expect he will, $28m combined for those couple of seasons will still be a bargain.
Everyone is making it sound like he's older than he is. Tony played 80 games as a 31 year old and 11 as a 32 year old last season. His first year of his new contract should be at age '32' in your table, not 33.
The thing some Spurs fans fail to understand is that it's not a matter of how much you think ___ is 'worth', the market decides that. Splitter would've gotten his money anywhere else, and that's why I feel Kawhi will end up with the max. A Spurs player taking less than his value should be a blessing, not an expectation.
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