Ugh Paul George

[-21-]

Damn... Hope he has a full recovery. This makes me feel better about Kawhi and Manu not participating in the WC.

[cd021]

I hope the monkeyball is just trolling. Like, you're legit the reason that the Spurs fanbase is as bad as the Heat fanbase or any fanbase (in the sense that every sports team fanbase has its equal share of lame s but it does feel like the Spurs fanbase feels itself a bit holier than thou undeservingly), the weirdass Euroball racist wads who think athleticism in a ing professional sport is crude/dumb or cheating or some bull .
NO FAIR AMERICAN BLACKS YOU CAN JUMP HIGHER AND RUN FASTER, IS NO COMPARISON TO GREAT SLAVIC BASKETBALL!!!!!! DUMB MONKEYBALL!!!
they're in like, every basketball youtube comment section talking that bull and they're almost always Spurs fans latching onto the Spurs so they create this super lame concept where it's like the Spurs style of basketball is the "Beautiful Game" and the only right way for basketball to be appreciated. Like, I can watch Spurs passing and the Spurs system and intensely appreciate its beauty and I can also watch a Clippers alleyoop dunk and appreciate its beauty without snarkily rolling my eyes at how athletic this professional athlete is and inserting subtly racist bull about monkeyball. Obviously the fact I'm a Spurs fan means I appreciate watching Spurs basketball more than the latter, but as a fan of basketball I can see the beauty in both in their own ways. Seriously what a bunch of lameass Eurotrash typically.
Like, Pop and the franchise developed a system over time based on the reality of our assets and the makeup of our team. If we had had some hyperathletic young superstar prodigy then we may have modeled and adapted to that. Why's discussion of basketball playing style gotta get ideological ("this is the right way!!!!!") and borderline racial? wack

I love watching the Spurs play, I love watching them play more than any other team out there, but honestly if you look at some super athlete doing an awesome alleyoop dunk or some crazy athletic feat and react to that by sniffing condescendingly and rolling your eyes about how it's not purist basketball and it's monkeyball and blahblah you straight up need to wipe the off your lips.

there is definitely race involved as well

http://www.authentichistory.com/dive...coon/6-monkey/

people on ST are either clueless about it or or flat or racist towards blacks players on opposing teams that are very athletic and talented. De Andre Jordan, D. Rose, & Westbrook have all been called that regularly on ST.

[in my eyes 911]

there is definitely race involved as well

http://www.authentichistory.com/dive...coon/6-monkey/

people on ST are either clueless about it or or flat or racist towards blacks players on opposing teams that are very athletic and talented. De Andre Jordan, D. Rose, & Westbrook have all been called that regularly on ST.

When you generalize and say everyone on ST your just as ignorant as them. Manu Ginobili received racism here, the fans who live in the city of San Antonio received racism. Your taking one comment in an ocean of good grace towards Paul George and getting on your soap box prematurely.

[Chinook]

there is definitely race involved as well

http://www.authentichistory.com/dive...coon/6-monkey/

people on ST are either clueless about it or or flat or racist towards blacks players on opposing teams that are very athletic and talented. De Andre Jordan, D. Rose, & Westbrook have all been called that regularly on ST.

People are prejudiced. Words aren't. You can't be accidentally bigoted. And you shouldn't be labeled as such just because someone is offended by your words.

I don't think Monkeyball is a particularly charged term in any event, seeing as it clearly doesn't refer to the way black people play in general.

[cd021]

When you generalize and say everyone on ST your just as ignorant as them. Manu Ginobili received racism here, the fans who live in the city of San Antonio received racism. Your taking one comment in an ocean of good grace towards Paul George and getting on your soap box prematurely.

I didn't say everyone i said "people on ST" and "Jordan, d. Rose, & Westbrook and all have been called that regularly on ST"

that doesn't generalize at all. How is that talking on soap box calling out the people on ST that call black players on opposing teams "monkey ballers"?

Of course Manu gets discriminated against but it didn't pertain to the qoute I referenced.

I've seen at least 3 or 4 different posters make comments referencing monkey ball or something similar to that in the 11 combined pages upstairs and in the NBA Forum.

Sure they are plenty of well wishers for George but i'm not willing to let those posts slide.

[Trainwreck2100]

I don't think Monkeyball is a particularly charged term in any event, seeing as it clearly doesn't refer to the way black people play in general.

pretty much

[EVAY]

As it pertains to the NCAA I doubt the NBA teams care, because they aren't committed to anybody yet. I agree the logic extends to preseason games, and considering the playoffs are really all that matter I don't see why it doesn't extend to the regular season too.

In fact, the NBA would be hypocrites to ban stars on the basis of injury risk, as they complain about teams doing the exact same thing in the regular season. We got fined for it, although that was perhaps more to do with rest than injury risk, but it's fair to say the risk of injury is increased when players are fatigued.

Agreed on all points, especially when the players are fatigued or already injured (as is the case with Manu now).

Doesn't mean that the GMs and Owners won't try to run with the argument. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, because one of the big reasons that the U.S. started going with NBA players is that our college players were so much younger and less experienced than what we were seeing from national teams in the Olympics.

Imagine what will happen if no NBA players were allowed to play in the Olympics. National teams would take on a whole different meaning. What happened before our NBA players were allowed to play for the U.S. team is that our NCAA players were pitted against the 'National Teams' from other nations, where the players from other countries were often payed by their own countries. The NCAA forbids payment (or used to do so) from any source, so we were essentially playing amateurs vs. professionals. That was the point at which the U.S. said "Damn - if they are gonna get paid, we ought to use our guys that get paid".

[cd98]

NBA profits from stars playing overseas. Team USA has expanded the league around the globe. As Team USA and international stars have played in these tournaments, basketball has globalized, and NBA has gotten richer. Teams like global NBA, they just want other team's star playing in it.

[Clipper Nation]

I don't think Monkeyball is a particularly charged term in any event, seeing as it clearly doesn't refer to the way black people play in general.

It's supposed to refer to any player with more athleticism than brains regardless of race, but of course, the schtick has long since jumped the shark as people apply it to anyone who runs fast, jumps high, and/or dunks....

[cd98]

NBA stars in Olympics is about marketing and profits. That's why NBA allows it. I doubt they care who wins gold as long as the winner has a bunch of NBA players on it.

[Chinook]

It's supposed to refer to any player with more athleticism than brains regardless of race, but of course, the schtick has long since jumped the shark as people apply it to anyone who runs fast, jumps high, and/or dunks....

Yep. The person who first said it in this thread misused it. The same is true for folks who still use the term to describe Blake Griffin. It's hard to be a successful monkeyballer. That's why people use it as a pejorative.

[cd021]

People are prejudiced. Words aren't. You can't be accidentally bigoted. And you shouldn't be labeled as such just because someone is offended by your words.

I don't think Monkeyball is a particularly charged term in any event, seeing as it clearly doesn't refer to the way black people play in general.

That can get a bit murky. A person may not be bigoted but have prejudices against certain races (among other things like religion) but thats

I'd disagree on the monkey-ball issue . Black people have been referred to monkeys for 130 years. Some posters have probably used "monkeyball" after seeing others use it to describe those particular players without race attached to it. Their are others on ST that have certainly used that term and know how monkey is offensive towards blacks people.

It has been used toward certain black players that rely heavily on athleticism specifically Westbrook, Jordan and Rose and Howard as well.

[Chinook]

That can get a bit murky. A person may not be bigoted but have prejudices against certain races (among other things like religion) but thats

I'd disagree on the monkey-ball issue . Black people have been referred to monkeys for 130 years. Some posters have probably used "monkeyball" after seeing others use it to describe those particular players without race attached to it. Their are others on ST that have certainly used that term and know how monkey is offensive towards blacks people.

It has been used toward certain black players that rely heavily on athleticism specifically Westbrook, Jordan and Rose and Howard as well.

A term can't be racist if it isn't trying to deride a whole race. For monkeyball to apply, it would essentially have to be the same as "black-person ball". But seeing as the vast majority of black players can't be described as playing monkeyball, and especially seeing as the NBA greats didn't play that way, it's hard for me to take any offense to the term.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm well-versed in slurs. I understand what you're saying. But I also don't believe it applies to this case. You could have used a different term, like idiotball or something, and nothing would be different.

Words only have power if you give it to them. Condemning the use of a word will not take away its power. Not taking any special connotation from it will.

[Trainwreck2100]

It's supposed to refer to any player with more athleticism than brains regardless of race, but of course, the schtick has long since jumped the shark as people apply it to anyone who runs fast, jumps high, and/or dunks....

Nope having more athleticism than brains is fine. Its relying on that athleticism and completely foregoing any evolution in skill set that makes its monkeyball Imo

[Obstructed_View]

Yep. The person who first said it in this thread misused it. The same is true for folks who still use the term to describe Blake Griffin. It's hard to be a successful monkeyballer. That's why people use it as a pejorative.

Blake gets labeled with that less and less as he works to add new dimensions to his game. He's still an astonishing jumper, but he's no longer JUST an astonishing jumper.

[Chinook]

Blake gets labeled with that less and less as he works to add new dimensions to his game. He's still an astonishing jumper, but he's no longer JUST an astonishing jumper.

Yeah, and as Jordan's IQ increases, he's also shedding the label. Wiggins and Aaron Gordon are each incredibly athletic and raw, but Wiggins seems to be getting a decent skill-set together while Gordon still seems like a bust. I'd only consider the latter a monkey-baller.

[BatManu20]

I don't have internet or access to a TV for one day and this is what I miss?? that was terrible.

[RD2191]

I don't have internet or access to a TV for one day and this is what I miss?? that was terrible.

Like High School. Miss a day and you miss 2-3 fights, surprise party, someone getting arrested.

[Captivus]

I didnt read all the posts but someone on youtube is saying that and I quote:
The goal was 2feet closer to the base line than In the nba so if they were playing in an nba arena or one that was regulation it wouldn't have happened

[Plum Island]

i wish we could break the bones of the reptilian illuminati, that would be fun

we start with obama, the clerk of the illuminati elite

then with the reptilian british royal family, reptilian cannibals all

then with the satanic vatican, and then break the bones of the evil jesuits


.......i wish it were them with broken bones, and not a fantastic NBA player

goodness

Made me go break out the old David Icke books!
Time to re-familiarize myself with the "Family Tree"...

[SupremeGuy]

I didnt read all the posts but someone on youtube is saying that and I quote:
The goal was 2feet closer to the base line than In the nba so if they were playing in an nba arena or one that was regulation it wouldn't have happened

Holy is this some tspence verified information? Pretty ing crappy if true.

[will_spurs]

Holy is this some tspence verified information? Pretty ing crappy if true.

It's true, and it's been mentioned in the first couple of pages. If the stanchions had been where they usually are on a NBA court this injury wouldn't have happened.

[hater]

3 broken lower legs 3 black ppl. Mmmm

[lmbebo]

It's true, and it's been mentioned in the first couple of pages. If the stanchions had been where they usually are on a NBA court this injury wouldn't have happened.

Word is it was 3 feet 11", min in nba is 4.

[spurraider21]

People are prejudiced. Words aren't. You can't be accidentally bigoted. And you shouldn't be labeled as such just because someone is offended by your words.

I don't think Monkeyball is a particularly charged term in any event, seeing as it clearly doesn't refer to the way black people play in general.

yeah, monkeyball is a term this forum uses in regards to both basketball or football when referring to players that rely solely on athletic ability. its not exclusive to any race