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    Bob... could you pull your head out of your ass and produce a decent argument for once?



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    Atheists love to pull out the straw-man card.
    I wasn't aware that spurraider and DMC were such re ed trolls though, that came as a surprise.
    I'll know better next time not to even attempt an intelligent discussion with them.

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    Atheists love to pull out the straw-man card.

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    RG, all of your questions have been answered multiple times. The God you don't believe in is evil in your eyes.

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    The concept that "morality is just divine edict" is a weak position to take and most theologians will avoid it at all costs. There's an exponentially greater amount of evidence to show that morality is just the macrocosm of ethics. Ethics evolve over time, and so the linearity between the extremes is shifted, so from a wider lens it's a morality shift.

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    RG, all of your questions have been answered multiple times. The God you don't believe in is evil in your eyes.

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    The concept that "morality is just divine edict" is a weak position to take and most theologians will avoid it at all costs. There's an exponentially greater amount of evidence to show that morality is just the macrocosm of ethics. Ethics evolve over time, and so the linearity between the extremes is shifted, so from a wider lens it's a morality shift.
    Ethics evolve to some extent, but demonstrable harm is demonstrable harm. That is objective and fairly easy to measure for some actions.

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    Dang man... I'm even better at funny internet pictures than Prophet Bob.

    Time to sleep.

    Maybe he will figure out my mystery picture.



    .... and why it is making fun of him.

    You older nerds know the joke. Rob is only 23, so I would guess it is over his head.

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    Old nerds. ROFL.

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    Ethics evolve to some extent, but demonstrable harm is demonstrable harm. That is objective and fairly easy to measure for some actions.
    Murder, dishonesty, theft. All morality centers around these in the Bible yet today it's considered immoral to have sex with a 13 year old girl or against the will of any woman. It wasn't immoral in the OT days, not even in the day of Jesus of Nazareth. In some countries it's still not illegal though the "objective" morality code in the 1st world countries deem it immoral. It's not objective if it's not consistent. Just because you feel a certain way about it doesn't mean it's absolute. Neither history nor current goings on in other nations side with your feelings on the matter. I do, but they don't.

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    Definitely DMC, johnsmith, blake, chump, Woo, and spurraider for sure!
    Too bad there is no gang pic with all 6 sitting around picking each others noses.

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    Definitely DMC, johnsmith, blake, chump, Woo, and spurraider for sure!
    Too bad there is no gang pic with all 6 sitting around picking each others noses.
    Troll post.

    Also, way to be open minded. Ridiculing and ostracizing those just because of their views and beliefs. How Christian of you

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    Troll post.

    Also, way to be open minded. Ridiculing and ostracizing those just because of their views and beliefs. How Christian of you
    So says the troll who fired the first salvo.
    Can you spell h y p o c r i s y?

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    So says the troll who fired the first salvo.
    Can you spell h y p o c r i s y?
    A true Christian would turn the other cheek. One of those allegorical tales says so

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    A true Christian would turn the other cheek. One of those allegorical tales says so


    San Antonio Raiders!

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    Some on here have made all sorts of wild and outlandish claims about Pope Francis.
    Below is what he said about atheists, for those who care.

    http://www.catholicvote.org/what-pop...bout-atheists/


    What Pope Francis really said about atheists

    By Stephen Kokx

    Pope Francis raised a lot of eyebrows Wednesday after saying all people who do good works, including atheists, are going to heaven.


    At least, that’s how the Huffington Post interpreted Pope Francis’ Wednesday morning homily.

    Here’s what Pope Francis really said about atheists:

    Pope Francis

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    The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone!

    ‘Father, the atheists?'

    Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class! We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all! And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter that so much. We must meet one another doing good.

    ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’

    But do good: we will meet one another there.

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    do you find it a good mental exercise to explain what you believe and why?
    Yup, but the exercise is just icing. If philosophy talk wasn't entertaining, I probably wouldn't post much at all on a messageboard.

    Kind of like sudoku when it just became popular.

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